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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: Shins]
    #21782848 - 06/09/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I paid $2900 for a drain line to be repaired under the basement floor which had to be drilled up. It took 3 guys 6 hours to complete (18 total hours of labor). That breaks down to about $160 per hour per person.

Did I get completely ripped off or is that sound like a typical rate?


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: grower182]
    #21783325 - 06/09/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Typical rate.  Its hilarious because dumb incompetent people are willing to pay people $150/hour  to literally just turn a wrench a half dozen times, especially women... haha :smile:


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: Shins]
    #21783343 - 06/09/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can handle many of the minor plumbing, electrical and home maintance tasks myself but I was not going to attempt jack hammering up my basement floor so I had to pay someone.


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: grower182]
    #21783603 - 06/09/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

why because it sounded like to manly of a job for you?  its concrete its harder to screw up than alot of things


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21784432 - 06/09/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Circular saw + diamon blade + rent jackhammer = like $300 lol.


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: Shins]
    #21784488 - 06/09/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

$300?  its like $20 to rent shit


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21784530 - 06/09/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think he's saying to buy the saw and diamond blades.

Also not usually, expensive shit like cartools and jack hammers usually make you pay out the ass in case you fuck it up. It might be cheap, but you'll need a few hundred to actually receive it.

Like auto zone will give you any car tool you need, but you have to pay a shit load if it's expensive but you get the money back when you return it.


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21784575 - 06/09/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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grower182 said:
I paid $2900 for a drain line to be repaired under the basement floor which had to be drilled up. It took 3 guys 6 hours to complete (18 total hours of labor). That breaks down to about $160 per hour per person.

Did I get completely ripped off or is that sound like a typical rate?




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why because it sounded like to manly of a job for you?  its concrete its harder to screw up than alot of things




2900 doesn't sound too bad, but i probably would have done it cheaper. its in a basement, so that makes it more work. theres a lot of jackhammering and digging involved which is hard labor.  you probably could have saved some money by hiring some laborers to do the digging and jackhammering before the plumbers got there. then you just have to pay the plumbing rate for the plumbing work. but that would of course be more legwork on your part to line up different guys for different parts of the job. I don't know if you have post tension cables in your slab, but if you do, they should have had a locator mark them because you really don't want to cut those.  If they did a good job, you didn't get ripped off too bad, if they did a half-assed job, you got screwed.  is the new concrete nice and level?

btw, i'm basing that off of L.A. prices, i don't really know the going rate wherever you live.
also, it depends on if you got a bid beforehand or were paying for time and materials.  if you got a bid, you have to keep in mind that he doesn't know exactly what he might run into on your job(theres always problems) so he has to bid for more hours than he thinks it will take, just in case.  if everything goes smoothly , you end up paying extra. But, if theres a major snag in the job, you get a good deal.  I knew an electrician that lost his ass on a job, because the price of wire jumped so much between when he bid the job, and when he bought materials and started


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21784677 - 06/09/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What's the best brand of drain unclogger? Liquid plumber, draino, etc.

Because fuck you and your family to feed.


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21784872 - 06/09/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if you don't use toliet paper you'll never need a plumber, thats a trade secret i learned in india


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21785552 - 06/09/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shit rolls downhill. Payday is on Friday. Any other rules I need to know to be a plumber?




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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21785786 - 06/09/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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grower182 said:
I paid $2900 for a drain line to be repaired under the basement floor which had to be drilled up. It took 3 guys 6 hours to complete (18 total hours of labor). That breaks down to about $160 per hour per person.

Did I get completely ripped off or is that sound like a typical rate?




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makaveli8x8 said:
why because it sounded like to manly of a job for you?  its concrete its harder to screw up than alot of things




2900 doesn't sound too bad, but i probably would have done it cheaper. its in a basement, so that makes it more work. theres a lot of jackhammering and digging involved which is hard labor.  you probably could have saved some money by hiring some laborers to do the digging and jackhammering before the plumbers got there. then you just have to pay the plumbing rate for the plumbing work. but that would of course be more legwork on your part to line up different guys for different parts of the job. I don't know if you have post tension cables in your slab, but if you do, they should have had a locator mark them because you really don't want to cut those.  If they did a good job, you didn't get ripped off too bad, if they did a half-assed job, you got screwed.  is the new concrete nice and level?

btw, i'm basing that off of L.A. prices, i don't really know the going rate wherever you live.
also, it depends on if you got a bid beforehand or were paying for time and materials.  if you got a bid, you have to keep in mind that he doesn't know exactly what he might run into on your job(theres always problems) so he has to bid for more hours than he thinks it will take, just in case.  if everything goes smoothly , you end up paying extra. But, if theres a major snag in the job, you get a good deal.  I knew an electrician that lost his ass on a job, because the price of wire jumped so much between when he bid the job, and when he bought materials and started




It was a good job from what I can tell. I wasn't home while the work was done. It was about 6 ft of pipe that was replaced and the rest of the basement lines were checked with a camera and cleaned as needed. The reason I was uneasy about it was I had to pay $700 for them to hammer up the floor before they would quote the whole job and at that point my basement was wrecked and had no way to use my plumbing in the entire house until the job was done.


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: grower182]
    #21785792 - 06/09/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

did they at least let you bury a body under there


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21786404 - 06/10/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What's the best brand of drain unclogger? Liquid plumber, draino, etc.

Because fuck you and your family to feed.




don't bother with that shit, it
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b. fucks your pipes up if they are made of metal
                                 
c. makes me charge you extra to drain down a sink full of caustic chemical slurry.

if you feel the need to clear your own drains, you can get a cheap 1/4 inch cable that is handrill driven. they are cheap. like 30 bucks or something at the depot.  this will usually do the job on a bathtub hair clog or the like.

a 3/8 to 1/2 cable machine will run you between 100 and 400 used. shop around on craigslist.  this will take care of your 2" drains like kitchen sinks and such.

a 5/8 to 3/4 cable machine will cost you between 500 and 1000 used dependeing on condition etc. this will clear 3 and 4 inch drains, and cut roots and whatnot.

if you have those three things in your garage, youre golden on clogs for eternity. (be careful with these tools, if any part of your body gets wrapped in the cable, stop the machine, and reverse it until you are free. don't panic and leave your foot on the airswitch)


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21786753 - 06/10/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

my pipes are full of seamen, at least thats what the last plumber said and i about died


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: Shins]
    #21791455 - 06/11/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Why do you bastards always remove my backing and not replace it? :wink:




you're talking about cabinets? like under the sink?  i actually cut nice holes, or mark nice holes for the cabinet installer to cut.  many plumbers are a bit more lazy and figure that nobody spends much time down there anyway


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21791521 - 06/11/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yah i love it when almost the entire back of a cabnet is cut out, or when they don't even cut a square but like 2 or 3 squares because they couldn't get the first one right:smilingpuppy:

anyways i finally got that faucet and installed a new one along with 2 new water valves.  do people really use 2 wrenches to get those fuckers on?  it was so cramped i couldn't do it unless i leaned in with zero support which would have killed my back, so i just used 1 wrench which im sure was hard on the pipes but didn't have much choice.

also as it turns out it was a delta with a lifetime warrenty, but who's gunna use a warrenty when they need a faucet like right meow.....surprizingly we called them up anyways and they said they were gunna refund us, wow, just wow, nice people over there


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21791532 - 06/11/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

also the inside of our water lines looked horrible as fuck, like shit was growing in there.  i thought the cholorine was supposed to kill shit like that?

also water still came through them with the house shutoff valve, the main one inside, enough to fill a jar in a couple minutes, the main valve had that big handle, ball valve i think its called, i thought those almost never failed?


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21791594 - 06/11/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

glad everything worked out. with compression angle stops(copper pipes), you should use 2 wrenches(there actually a special tool set for this but 2 smaller crescent wrenches work fine) with IPS angle stops (galvanized steel pipes), you can get away with one wrench, but if you sheer off the nipple isnide the wall you're in for a headache. The stuff inside your pipes was probably mineral deposits.  if you have steel pipes or very hard water, there are likely to be a lot of minerals crystalizing in the pipes.  it usually looks white and crusty or greenish with copper pipes, and rusty orange and white with steel pipes. you should see the blueish crystal sediment inside your water heater.

as for the ball valve. its true that they last much longer than gate valves, but everything failes eventually when your talking about pressurized water. you can turn it off at the water main(at the street) when youre ready to replace te house shutoff. you will need to purchase a T-handled water main key (you could maybe shut it off with a crescent wrench and a pipe wrench)


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Re: Ask a Plumber [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22475827 - 11/04/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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