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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: insanemike]
    #21776213 - 06/07/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fair enough. Like I said I don't use WBS much so you will hear no argument from me.


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: insanemike]
    #21776276 - 06/07/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Sunflower seeds should be fine. I have successfully grown spawn on quarts of safflower seeds and chickpeas. So I don't think there are too many types of seeds or grain that won't work. It usually comes down to ease of prep and costs being the biggest determining factors when it comes to propagating spawn.





Yes but.. How were your yields and whats the nutrient ratio in them and millet?

I would figure you would want a super high amount of millet to seeds.  I keep a few around for the oil content. 

I am interested in this seed only grow, I am saving my seeds next time and finding out these answers for us.


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21776335 - 06/07/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol, so you want to play Bodhisatta, very good, game on.  It is quite funny that you should choose Bacillus Subtilus, as it's something I'm quite familiar with.  In fact as I speak I'm looking at a quart of the stuff sitting in front of me, oh and I also take it daily in a capsule form as a part of a superior form of probiotic supplement(superior specifically because the surrounding proteinaceous coating inbues the spore with an ability to withstand the strong acids of the primary digestive system enabling it to reach the lower intestines where it has the most beneficial affects on ones lower intestinal flora, but that's a discussion for another day ;?).

That said, I will have to defer my response until tomorrow as it is quite late and if I don't get to bed the nurses will become angry, lol.  But yeah, see you soon ;?D


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21776336 - 06/07/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Sunflower seeds should be fine. I have successfully grown spawn on quarts of safflower seeds and chickpeas. So I don't think there are too many types of seeds or grain that won't work. It usually comes down to ease of prep and costs being the biggest determining factors when it comes to propagating spawn.





Yes but.. How were your yields and whats the nutrient ratio in them and millet?

I would figure you would want a super high amount of millet to seeds.  I keep a few around for the oil content. 

I am interested in this seed only grow, I am saving my seeds next time and finding out these answers for us.




It was a year and a half ago and really had no idea what I was doing at that time but from what I can remember is that the tub triched out. I bucket tek'd cvg with coffee (big mistake). I haven't attempted it since.


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: insanemike]
    #21776489 - 06/07/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Sunflower seeds should be fine. I have successfully grown spawn on quarts of safflower seeds and chickpeas. So I don't think there are too many types of seeds or grain that won't work. It usually comes down to ease of prep and costs being the biggest determining factors when it comes to propagating spawn.





Yes but.. How were your yields and whats the nutrient ratio in them and millet?

I would figure you would want a super high amount of millet to seeds.  I keep a few around for the oil content. 

I am interested in this seed only grow, I am saving my seeds next time and finding out these answers for us.




It was a year and a half ago and really had no idea what I was doing at that time but from what I can remember is that the tub triched out. I bucket tek'd cvg with coffee (big mistake). I haven't attempted it since.





I will follow up on this then.  I have a grow that I can put it up against straight up grain too.


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21776512 - 06/07/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Lol, so you want to play Bodhisatta, very good, game on.

That said, I will have to defer my response until tomorrow as it is quite late and if I don't get to bed the nurses will become angry, lol.  But yeah, see you soon ;?D



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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21776515 - 06/07/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21777415 - 06/08/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Lol, so you want to play Bodhisatta, very good, game on.

That said, I will have to defer my response until tomorrow as it is quite late and if I don't get to bed the nurses will become angry, lol.  But yeah, see you soon ;?D



Calling Dr. Douche lol :helloyesthisisdouche:



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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21777833 - 06/08/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So im using rye. I tried WBS once and i just didnt like it. Between filtering out the sunflower husks and stuff...  im just used to rye and it works for me. Albeit more expensive but whatever. See. If i was to have to boil and steam dry anyway id just as well soak. What i want to know is anyone that just throws dry grain straight into jar with x amount of water and commences the PC cycle. If im gonna fuss around with boiling and drying i just as well will soak for 12 hours or so.


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: DeadPhan]
    #21777889 - 06/08/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"OATS FTW"
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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21777895 - 06/08/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I need to know more about oats. Nervous about it but i want to try. I sound like a teenage girl wanting to have sex for the first time


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: DeadPhan]
    #21777903 - 06/08/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Boil for 30 minutes, strain and load. I let them dry for a bit, but you can just load them wet if you want. They absorb the extra moisture during the PC cycle.


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21777984 - 06/08/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Care to link to the type of oats you use? I see a whole variety when I'm in the feed store.


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21777985 - 06/08/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Here's the ratios I use for rye & wheat grain. You obviously may need to adjust it some depending on the starting moisture content of your grains. Gypsum is optional as always.

After PC'ing shake them before they cool down completely to help avoid clumping. I usually just wait till I can pick them up without burning my hands.

RYE GRAIN/QUART JARS
300mL Rye
175mL H2o

WHEAT GRAIN/QUART JARS
300mL
150mL H2o

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Make a few jars to these specs and make some deviating from it - some with more water, some with less water. Label the amounts in each jar and PC them all together. Afterwards pick out the best looking jar and roll with that.


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: maddchef]
    #21778016 - 06/08/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Care to link to the type of oats you use? I see a whole variety when I'm in the feed store.



Just make sure they are whole oats. A lot of people use these and I use these...



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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21778065 - 06/08/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lmmfao. The first review on that link is Mudafuka saying use em for mycelium growth!


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: maddchef]
    #21778076 - 06/08/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Im going to give oats a go. Its about the same price I get wbs for and from what I can tell will have less of a bacterial endospores load.

Now to just find a good prep tek


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: maddchef]
    #21778091 - 06/08/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Seriously boil for 30-40 minutes. No rinse or soak, they are pretty clean.


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: maddchef]
    #21778092 - 06/08/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thats mudafukin fantastic!


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Re: Do any of you do a no soak prep for grain? [Re: bsfurr]
    #21778200 - 06/08/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So a question about oats. Whenever I boil wbs it gets very starchy if I don't rinse it again, do oats not have this issue or just if you over boil them?


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