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Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like?
#21773532 - 06/07/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I only like that federal gov offers SSI benefits. (been on this since my mid 20s for being labeled paranoid s. This on makes me feel like I've retired to the benefit life, since SSI allows me to be in an Semi Indepentent Living program {a very nice apt in the burds as usually a co-tenant}.)
And I also only like that my state gov offers foodstamps via EBT card. (been with card since my mid 30s upon my apt residing.)
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
#21773585 - 06/07/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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While probably every department has flaws, I like the idea of the EPA and federal/state parks departments. Some people like money way too much and they need to be checked once in a while.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Ikarus]
#21774036 - 06/07/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You like the government because it allows you to leech off taxpayers?
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Shins]
#21774169 - 06/07/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Me? I was professionally diagnosed w/ a problem. I take a med. The gov sees it fit that tax payers, to extents, aid these benefits, to benefit me for my best interest. I cant work on a med that causes drowsiness. I have been blessed w/ a CDL way before my diagnose. This trucking I am able to qualify for. But U dont want a drowsy guy on the road w/ a big rig, do U?
U don't suggest I go off the med which I am comfortable w/, which I take for paranoid s. as prescribed, and get a trucking job, just so I don't seem like a leech to tax payers?
I will tell U a truth... If I werent professionally diagnosed, I would aim to get SSI still, and be the very leech you may be thinking I am now. Why? Once U get a taste of these benefits, U see the beauty in not bothering w/ having to work hard in life. I am blessed to have been labeled. I see the security financally and housing-ly for life.
In other words, w/ what I know now, after being professionally diagnosed, I can see why certain ppl leech via playing the mental health system. Apparently unlike U, I can respect ppl that have to cheat in life to make it.
I am able to try to go against my label. But nope. I like my label. I am able to switch to a med that wont make me drowsy so I can truck and lose my SSI. But nope. Other side effects can be worst. I know. Just trust me on this. I've had meds that had severe side effects. Nothing to like. I am fine w/ my situation in current. I am fine w/ my health on the med I am on now. And I really really dig this very nice apt Im in. Wouldnt change it for the world.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Shins]
#21774213 - 06/07/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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And if U are a tax payer... All I can say is thanks! If U dont like ppl like me, then understand, no one is stopping u from not paying taxes. If u work for an employer, I bet they automatically take out taxes. So then I say to that is U dont have to work for who takes taxes out automatically, if U have integrity to not stand for something like, say, leeches U might have a huge problem with aiding.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
#21774475 - 06/07/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lived_1978-2043 said: Once U get a taste of these benefits, U see the beauty in not bothering w/ having to work hard in life.
That's good for you, but bad for everyone else who is forced to support you. From the perspective of someone who has to pay for your lazy leech lifestyle this makes the government bad.
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I can respect ppl that have to cheat in life to make it.
no wonder you like the government, it lets you chest in life.
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I am able to switch to a med that wont make me drowsy so I can truck and lose my SSI. But nope.
because its eiser for you to chest thr system so that you can be lazy, not work as hard, and steal money from taxpayers. For normal, hard working people who pay taxes, welfare cheaters are not a good aspect of government.
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And I really really dig this very nice apt Im in. Wouldnt change it for the world.
and I do not dig having to work hard and pay taxes to provide it for you.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Shins]
#21774600 - 06/07/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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hahaha. U remind me of how the news media has a very nasty habbit of spinning things far away from context, to make someone sound like someone they are not.
Edited by Lived_1978-2043 (06/07/15 03:19 PM)
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
#21775085 - 06/07/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lived_1978-2043 said: I only like that federal gov offers SSI benefits. (been on this since my mid 20s for being labeled paranoid s. This on makes me feel like I've retired to the benefit life, since SSI allows me to be in an Semi Indepentent Living program {a very nice apt in the burds as usually a co-tenant}.)
And I also only like that my state gov offers foodstamps via EBT card. (been with card since my mid 30s upon my apt residing.)
"Hi, i'm OP. I only like the part of the government that pays my income since my 20s, my food since my 30s, and my housing these days. Oh, and they'll be paying all of these things forever. because i live in America.
If i were born in India, statistically speaking i'd probably be born in a slum, and my family would've given up support long ago. not being able to get my entire life subsidized like in America, I'd beg on the streets, steal, or get fucked (literally) in order to eat. i'd sleep wherever. until I died from abuse or malnourishment or disease.
but i only like that part of the government that pays for my food and housing and income. the rest can suck it. don't tread on me"
OP, i don't have respect for you. not because you're disabled. but because you're not disabled, you're lazy and lacking motivation. you don't want to try, because you've never had to. it's ok. whatever, it's your life, or, half-life, or whatever you want to call your existence. as long as you're happy
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
#21775104 - 06/07/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lived_1978-2043 said: U don't suggest I go off the med which I am comfortable w/, which I take for paranoid s. as prescribed, and get a trucking job, just so I don't seem like a leech to tax payers?
no, i suggest you learn some other fucking skill. you don't HAVE to be a goddamn truck driver. how about you work at a desk, so if your dumbass falls asleep we can just put a napkin on your shoulder to stop you from drooling, then whenyou wake up from naptime you can get back to work?
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: memes]
#21775198 - 06/07/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok i re-read those and i think i was being a bit mean-spirited. i was heated up because of OP's unabashed claim of lethargy and leech
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: memes]
#21775298 - 06/07/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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U're right about one thing...
See, I once tried out at an audition. Seemed easy doing. Seems like something I can keep doing. Real easy... Try out for roles outside of go w/ a trucker career. I've always had pursuing acting on and off on my mind. An acting course by an agency can run about $800 last I checked in person.
Oh, I can only "seem" lazy to certain of you while I just like remaining way way way laid back in life. And for a good reason. For I don't operate good under stress. I have to be stress free! In America we can pursue happiness. Stress is opposite happiness.
By the way, folks, ppl tend to mistake laid back for lazy.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
#21775359 - 06/07/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lived_1978-2043 said: U're right about one thing...
See, I once tried out at an audition. Seemed easy doing. Seems like something I can keep doing. Real easy... Try out for roles outside of go w/ a trucker career. I've always had pursuing acting on and off on my mind. An acting course by an agency can run about $800 last I checked in person.
Oh, I can only "seem" lazy to certain of you while I just like remaining way way way laid back in life. And for a good reason. For I don't operate good under stress. I have to be stress free! In America we can pursue happiness. Stress is opposite happiness.
By the way, folks, ppl tend to mistake laid back for lazy.
ok, so a trucker doesn't work because you get drowsy from your meds
acting isn't in the cards because classes cost $800 and you're broke, and acting is stressful and you can't handle that
so, how about one of the other 341,892,012.04 careers that exist out there?
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: memes]
#21776518 - 06/07/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Breaking into an acting career is actually unrealistic. But few get that break. I can pay an agency for a course and to have an agency by a simple saving plan. Set $30 aside for a total of 26 months. Which is 2 years and 2 months. I can commit to pursue acting any time I want w/ no rush.
And I wouldnt find acting stressful since interested in acting. So ha. Acting classes are usually along side modeling classes. That is incentive to take up classes in acting because U get to meet some decent to very attractive women trying to make it as models.
I learned it is better to not lose your SSI. It is like a safety net. But I am only willing to lose my SSI to making enough money. Usually good actors make that kind of money I am willing to lose my SSI in exchange for. SSI income is subtracted depending on other income. I'd have no prob losing SSI if I made it as a nicely paid actor.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
#21777262 - 06/08/15 04:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the chances of you becoming an actor making enough to get off of your SSI are so egregiously low, I'm fairly confident you've latched to this potential career path for the sole purposes of ensuring you never have to get off of your SSI.
Really, you piss me off. I'm going to stop engaging wiht you now, because your existence frustrates me.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: memes]
#21778265 - 06/08/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Though I support a safety net, especially for people who need it (like those with paranoid schizophrenia), I agree with memes in that the Government should be doing more to ensure people like you are forced to find a job within their abilities, or go without a handout.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#21778855 - 06/08/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's not how liberals get votes falcon. This guy is a model democrat voter. He will keep voting for the guys who give mim free stuff, and that is exactly the MO of the dem party, the essence of socialism. Also, you're are conpletely nieve idiot if you don't think that most peple will not abuse social programs as much as thwy can and that socialist governments will not abuse all the centralization of power.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Shins]
#21781255 - 06/08/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shins said: That's not how liberals get votes falcon. This guy is a model democrat voter. He will keep voting for the guys who give mim free stuff, and that is exactly the MO of the dem party, the essence of socialism.
That's how liberals might get some votes, but liberals who favor welfare reform will do just fine. The wealthiest areas of the country, like Washington DC and the San Francisco Bay Area (where I live) are extremely liberal, and while we're ok with paying taxes to keep people from starving, we're not ok with giving capable people handouts. Liberals generally favor welfare reform, as evidenced with Bill Clinton.
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Shins said: Also, you're are conpletely nieve idiot if you don't think that most peple will not abuse social programs as much as thwy can...
Of course they will, which is why I said "the Government should be doing more to ensure people like you are forced to find a job within their abilities"
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Shins said: ... and that socialist governments will not abuse all the centralization of power.
They'll only abuse power if we allow the wealthy pay them to abuse it, which is exactly why Obamacare is not based on a single payer model.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
#21781284 - 06/08/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i like roads. the fed and state gov'ts both handle those. the EPA is pretty cool. just ask anyone who lived in LA in the 60's. Social programs are alright. there;s a lot of room for abuse, but it does a lot of good for people too. I like the military(even though i think it is WAY overfunded) I think compulsary education (k-12) is a good idea. i dunno, there's probably a bunch more things that are cool about the govt, but i have to go eat now
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#21781293 - 06/08/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The wealthy are paying them to abuse it, like they have done and wil always do with socialism. Obviously you have failed to stop them and now you have created a monster. This inevitably happens every time with socialism, humans are too corruptable for such a utopian system to work. It is a deal with the devil, you open all these doors and csntralize all this power and money and you are stupid enough to believe that humans will not abuse it as much as they can, some will not, most will. How tragic that such good intentions can have such devastating outcomes when faced with reality, this great danger is why socialists neet to wise up and face reality. Its better to trade a small present bad with the promise of a large good future than to trade a small good present for a large bad future. Socialists need to wise up to this and realize that people are capitalist out of pragmatism, and that we are not willing to sacrifice the future for some present pittance. Socialists are like heroin addicts, willing to abanon their future prosperity for some fleeting short term fix.
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Re: Can U name any aspects of fed and state goverment U do like? [Re: Shins]
#21781362 - 06/08/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shins said: The wealthy are paying them to abuse it, like they have done and wil always do with socialism. Obviously you have failed to stop them and now you have created a monster. This inevitably happens every time with socialism, humans are too corruptable for such a utopian system to work. It is a deal with the devil, you open all these doors and csntralize all this power and money and you are stupid enough to believe that humans will not abuse it as much as they can, some will not, most will. How tragic that such good intentions can have such devastating outcomes when faced with reality, this great danger is why socialists neet to wise up and face reality. Its better to trade a small present bad with the promise of a large good future than to trade a small good present for a large bad future. Socialists are like heroin addicts, willing to abanon their future prosperity for some fleeting short term fix.
What you have just described is what Reagan created, not socialists. You can substitute "capitalism" for "socialism" above, and it would accurately describe things.
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