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InvisibleMalcolm_Xtasy
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How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs)
    #21773392 - 06/07/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was using alcohol and weed to manage my anxiety for the last couple years. Now that both of those things are basically out of the picture, im having a really hard time sleeping and going through my day ever since my first anxiety attack. I seem to be hyper aware about every little thing happening in my body from muscle twitches to the slightest increase in heart rate. Again, I never really had this problem until my alcohol withdrawal. I have some Valerian root supplement and melatonin for sleep but getting through these last couple days have been pretty hard for me.

When I start to feel panicky, I try to analyze why im feeling the way I am and take deep breaths. But more often than not, my thoughts just end up spiraling out of control and im back at square 1.

Any tips or advice are much appreciated. Again, im not looking to take benzos, drink, smoke, or anything like that


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21773394 - 06/07/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Run away from the situation and walk around the city for hours untill I regain my senses.

Let me know if you find the solution


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Beanhead]
    #21773403 - 06/07/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's actually what I've been doing And I definitely find it helpful. But obviously im going to be in situations where I can't just haul ass to my "safe place" so im looking for more practical solutions


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21773405 - 06/07/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Therapy is the best solution...imo


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: King Klick]
    #21773408 - 06/07/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Really? The few therapists I've talked to really didn't have any enlightening things to say to me


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: King Klick]
    #21773409 - 06/07/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've never really had anxiety. Well I guess I did but just dealt with it. Until I became an alcoholic. Loud noises make me flinch. And I've been to the hospital because of it my heart rate was over 180 bpm. But ya alcohol does that to me I'm very confident and up front but it breaks me. I dunno why I keep drinking it haha.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21773413 - 06/07/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Because doctors prescribe Antipsychotics over benzos

To death and decay it is then!

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Beanhead] * 1
    #21773459 - 06/07/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Exercise


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21773461 - 06/07/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Enjoywho said:
I've never really had anxiety. Well I guess I did but just dealt with it. Until I became an alcoholic. Loud noises make me flinch. And I've been to the hospital because of it my heart rate was over 180 bpm. But ya alcohol does that to me I'm very confident and up front but it breaks me. I dunno why I keep drinking it haha.



Yeah this is why im abstaining from alcohol outside the occasional beer. Im hoping it gets better after a couple weeks go by weed/booze free. This is no way to live


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21773464 - 06/07/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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OhMrJohnson said:
Exercise




+ sunshine + fresh air

for me... + lots of :bongload:

Also... have you tried meditation?


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21773468 - 06/07/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Meditation saved me from crippling anxiety around 6-ish years ago.

It can be a little difficult at first, especially to make it a habit, but it's incredible what it can do for the mind.

#1 advice - stop worrying if you're doing it right, and let go of any expectations of immediate gratification.

Just sit, and breathe


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21773483 - 06/07/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Meditation saved me from crippling anxiety around 6-ish years ago.

It can be a little difficult at first, especially to make it a habit, but it's incredible what it can do for the mind.

#1 advice - stop worrying if you're doing it right, and let go of any expectations of immediate gratification.

Just sit, and breathe




+1. Lots of people overanalyze meditation. There is no single "right way" to do it.
The most important thing is your breath.. and also the easiest way to maintain focus.. just focus on your breathing.
The goal of meditation varies between people, but in general it helps you to ease your mind and help calm those crazy thoughts.

The best way I have had it described to me.. was.. You aren't going to "eliminate" your thoughts from happening... as some people think the goal of meditation is to have a completely clear mind.. which is basically impossible for a human to do. Thoughts will randomly pop in even if you aren't trying to think of anything... rather... just "observe" the thoughts... as if they are passing clouds in the sky.
You aren't interacting with them or thinking about them.... just watch them float by as an impartial observer.... and don't overanalyze.

Most people find it easiest to just focus on one single thing, like your breathing.. that's the easiest to focus on as it should be your main thing... steady.. calm... deep breaths.

At the very least... it's very relaxing. At best... it can replace years of psychotherapy and provide super deep insight into your inner workings maybe you weren't even aware of. But don't expect anything from it.. just be and go with the flow, don't have any expectations except to relax. Even just 5-10 minutes a day can do wonders. It's like a defragmentation for your mind.. and helps train your mind to FOCUS on what you want. Every time you do it is beneficial practice.

It would also help you to become more aware of and have more subconscious control over your body.. since you mention obsessing over even little minute muscle twitches and shit. Sounds like meditation would greatly benefit you.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21773523 - 06/07/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yoga, breathing exercises, meditation, exercise, eating healthy(no fast food or sugar), and getting outside in nature and doing things have helped me tremendously in the past year. Ive taken things in baby steps but now i am finally off benzos and tapered off of alcohol (drinking only on weekends). Never thought id be able to be happy without drugs but here i am today, still a long way to go but my crippling panic attacks are finally under control.

Best of luck to you Malcolm, remember sitting around by yourself and doing drugs will only make your anxiety worse. Take things in baby steps and don't be too hard on yourself.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21773534 - 06/07/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cirpralex for me. But I guess that would fall under the drug category


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Shroomism]
    #21773562 - 06/07/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Mr.PhilCybin said:
Meditation saved me from crippling anxiety around 6-ish years ago.

It can be a little difficult at first, especially to make it a habit, but it's incredible what it can do for the mind.

#1 advice - stop worrying if you're doing it right, and let go of any expectations of immediate gratification.

Just sit, and breathe




+1. Lots of people overanalyze meditation. There is no single "right way" to do it.
The most important thing is your breath.. and also the easiest way to maintain focus.. just focus on your breathing.
The goal of meditation varies between people, but in general it helps you to ease your mind and help calm those crazy thoughts.

The best way I have had it described to me.. was.. You aren't going to "eliminate" your thoughts from happening... as some people think the goal of meditation is to have a completely clear mind.. which is basically impossible for a human to do. Thoughts will randomly pop in even if you aren't trying to think of anything... rather... just "observe" the thoughts... as if they are passing clouds in the sky.
You aren't interacting with them or thinking about them.... just watch them float by as an impartial observer.... and don't overanalyze.

Most people find it easiest to just focus on one single thing, like your breathing.. that's the easiest to focus on as it should be your main thing... steady.. calm... deep breaths.

At the very least... it's very relaxing. At best... it can replace years of psychotherapy and provide super deep insight into your inner workings maybe you weren't even aware of. But don't expect anything from it.. just be and go with the flow, don't have any expectations except to relax. Even just 5-10 minutes a day can do wonders. It's like a defragmentation for your mind.. and helps train your mind to FOCUS on what you want. Every time you do it is beneficial practice.

It would also help you to become more aware of and have more subconscious control over your body.. since you mention obsessing over even little minute muscle twitches and shit. Sounds like meditation would greatly benefit you.



I always thought meditation was hippie dippie bullshit but im definitely going to give it a try


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21773588 - 06/07/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:lol: far from it.

it's probably one of the most "human" experiences you could possibly have.


It really is incredible man.  start small, make time.  even 10 minutes a day will help.

shroomism did a really good job describing what you're going for.
just let your thoughts float by and observe.

It helps me sometimes to count my breathes (in-1, out2, in3,out 4, etc.) as a way to help ground me if my mind is going too fast.  whenever I get distracted I just start over.

honestly, anytime you can take nice slow, deep breathes it almost always relaxes me.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: King Klick]
    #21773611 - 06/07/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Therapy is the best solution...imo




I was about to suggest the same, but that's only because it was what helped me at a time where I absolutely needed it. I think therapy really helped me rehone my existing coping skills and add a few as well. I unlike others in my therapy group loved process group therapy. Good practice for getting things out in the open as well as becoming a better listener. it's really just the practice of the art of mindfulness. You learn the ability to give yourself a tune up and keep things running smoothly as best you can.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21773681 - 06/07/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Valium. Oh wait.

If there's anything I got out of therapy (not much at all), I learned that only I can help myself. And valium. Valium is great. But if you just quit smoking and drinking, high anxiety is definitely to be expected. This will subside as the rest of the withdrawal symptoms wear off. However lesser anxiety will likely remain possibly for the rest of your life. Then you're just a part of the club. Get used to it buddy.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21773694 - 06/07/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Enjoywho said:
I've never really had anxiety. Well I guess I did but just dealt with it. Until I became an alcoholic. Loud noises make me flinch. And I've been to the hospital because of it my heart rate was over 180 bpm. But ya alcohol does that to me I'm very confident and up front but it breaks me. I dunno why I keep drinking it haha.



Yeah this is why im abstaining from alcohol outside the occasional beer. Im hoping it gets better after a couple weeks go by weed/booze free. This is no way to live




Asking a pretty girl on a date, all that high school shit sure i anxiety but not like this. If I'm in deep withdrawals I can't even look other people in the eyes. I feel so shitty because I am very confident and social. Alcohol fucking sucks but I do have a beer in hand atm. So What Do I know.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Ganga Lova]
    #21773696 - 06/07/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I moved out to the desert, live by myself and go into town only a few times a week.
I tried to out-run my anxiety and it keeps catching up. :shrug:

Meditation, Yardwork, Drawing, Music, Walking, Hiking, most physical activity helps.
Anything to distract myself from whatever I'm freaking out over, I clean alot too


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21773705 - 06/07/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

think of a way to eliminate it without hiding behind simple meaningless actions that don't amount to anything for helping anxiety.

or just hide... either or.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21773710 - 06/07/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I always thought meditation was hippie dippie bullshit but im definitely going to give it a try




:ifyoucanawe:

This kind of attitude can probably be partially blamed for your alcoholism and anxiety.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21773715 - 06/07/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hiking/Mountaineering
Concerts
Snowboarding
Playing instruments
Reading fiction
Meditating
Tai Chi
Gardening
Sunshine

If I don't do at least some of these things on a weekly basis, I have crazy anxiety.  I just get like super in the zone with what I'm doing and the world falls away.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] * 1
    #21773719 - 06/07/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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When I start to feel panicky, I try to analyze why im feeling the way I am and take deep breaths.





you're halfway there. try and look a little further back to see f you can identify what the trigger was but working on that feeling as it begins is
a good start. dont try to analyze it, try to change it. it has worked for me


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21773725 - 06/07/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

True anxiety there is no reason for it. There's no talking yourself out of it. I'm not anxious at all except in deep alcohol wds.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21773738 - 06/07/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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True anxiety there is no reason for it. There's no talking yourself out of it. I'm not anxious at all except in deep alcohol wds.




I beg to differ, just because you aren't aware of a trigger doesn't mean there isn't one.

"True Anxiety" lol :rolleyes:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho] * 1
    #21773741 - 06/07/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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True anxiety there is no reason for it. There's no talking yourself out of it. I'm not anxious at all except in deep alcohol wds.





no but there are often triggers and you're wrong because I went through a few
years when I experienced a damn near crippling anxiety, once I recognized the
triggers I managed to avoid certain things and situations to reduce it's
frequency and when it did happen I managed to reduce the effect it was having


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21773743 - 06/07/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes it's not like people ever experience traumatic events in life

pssht get over it


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21773750 - 06/07/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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no but there are often triggers and you're wrong because I went through a few
years when I experienced a damn near crippling anxiety, once I recognized the
triggers I managed to avoid certain things and situations to reduce it's
frequency and when it did happen I managed to reduce the effect it was having




Point and case, good words of wisdom.
Identifying the triggers can lead to preventing anxiety before it even starts. :thumbup:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21773756 - 06/07/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Enjoywho said:
True anxiety there is no reason for it. There's no talking yourself out of it. I'm not anxious at all except in deep alcohol wds.





no but there are often triggers and you're wrong because I went through a few
years when I experienced a damn near crippling anxiety, once I recognized the
triggers I managed to avoid certain things and situations to reduce it's
frequency and when it did happen I managed to reduce the effect it was having




ya i cant really comment. I've never had anxiety until i started drinking every day. ya the every day bull shit of course i get it. asking pretty girls on dates etc. basically high school shit. but now im 24 and am very confident but i have been drinking for 2 years straight. thats whats causing me to faulter. and it makes me sad.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21773761 - 06/07/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you have reason to believe substance use/abuse is leading to your anxiety than I would highly recommend taking a break or even permanently quitting, I use to think Meth made me super-confident, but then became extremely self conscious and anxious 24/7, it took me almost two years to realize it was the meth. :shrug:


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    #21773784 - 06/07/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

that's the thing it makes me anxious not having it. i know i need to quit. i know whats causing it. denial is not something i do. i was a heroin addict for 3 years im 2 years clean june 15th. i know whats causing it and honestly alcohol wds are worse than heroin imo.


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    #21773791 - 06/07/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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that's the thing it makes me anxious not having it. i know i need to quit. i know whats causing it. denial is not something i do. i was a heroin addict for 3 years im 2 years clean june 15th. i know whats causing it and honestly alcohol wds are worse than heroin imo.




Yeah those w/d can kill you!! be careful, heroin w/d aren't shit to benzo/alcohol withdrawal.

Can you be in denial if you think your in denial? lol, idk man-- I don't have the answers I just have ideas on how to stay sober because I'm desperately trying to achieve the same goal, I quit drinking a few days ago and am just smoking weed now.


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    #21773794 - 06/07/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have had anxiety attacks since I was 9yo  Adderal IR 30mg at 9yo  started it


Ive had anxiety attacks atleast 1 time a year, usually around 1 time a month, but In 2012, and 2014  my anxiety level was throught the roof, mainly cause of how shitty my life was then



One thing that helps anxiety is :lifter:  Excersing in any shape or form, and improving your own life, those things help immensely ime


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    #21773799 - 06/07/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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One thing that helps anxiety is :lifter:  Excersing in any shape or form, and improving your own life, those things help immensely ime




I agree, when I first was able to put together some sobriety I was having a panic attack almost daily,
It wasn't until I went nutz-o at the gym trying to get my natural endorphin's going again did it help, didn't remove the problem but it helps.  This time around I just dig holes outside and plant shit in em, just to stay busy and keep my mind elsewhere.


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Your alchohol WDs is probably the source of the anxiety malconm


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    #21773840 - 06/07/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I use Valerian root.  I would get anxiety attacks so bad my hands would be shaking, sometimes losing motor control in them, haven't had one since, very relaxing.


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    #21773860 - 06/07/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno if im crazy but I believe the brain is capable of outsmarting itself, so I think you should just learn to train your brain that anxiety is a good thing and conquer that bitch. I have noticed I like feeling somewhat physical pain and it must be because I learned to correlate pain in my mind with doing something right. Im talking about working out pain, doing work while injured type of stuff not getting hit by a car.

I think what I just said is a actual real thing, I think the free deep sea divers do the same type of training.


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One thing that helps anxiety is :lifter:  Excersing in any shape or form, and improving your own life, those things help immensely ime




I agree, when I first was able to put together some sobriety I was having a panic attack almost daily,
It wasn't until I went nutz-o at the gym trying to get my natural endorphin's going again did it help, didn't remove the problem but it helps.  This time around I just dig holes outside and plant shit in em, just to stay busy and keep my mind elsewhere.



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the ego is a lovely place to hide.




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    #21773882 - 06/07/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Your alchohol WDs is probably the source of the anxiety malconm



quiting alcohol after drinking a long time can leave you with anxiety for days to years. For most people its probably a combination of wd and the fact they prob had a bit of anxiety before they started drinking. For most people it also goes away after normally a few weeks, but you still can get post acute withdrawal symptoms which could last way longer.
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I use Valerian root.  I would get anxiety attacks so bad my hands would be shaking, sometimes losing motor control in them, haven't had one since, very relaxing.



Do you eat that stuff? Ive thought about trying it out for sleep on nights when I really need it.


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that's the thing it makes me anxious not having it. i know i need to quit. i know whats causing it. denial is not something i do. i was a heroin addict for 3 years im 2 years clean june 15th. i know whats causing it and honestly alcohol wds are worse than heroin imo.




Yeah those w/d can kill you!! be careful, heroin w/d aren't shit to benzo/alcohol withdrawal.

Can you be in denial if you think your in denial? lol, idk man-- I don't have the answers I just have ideas on how to stay sober because I'm desperately trying to achieve the same goal, I quit drinking a few days ago and am just smoking weed now.




I just drink as it's something to do. Take a sip smoke take a sip. Come on here or browse facebook or read cracked. rinse repeat. I didn't start drinking like this until I left my home alaska. And it was because I was lonely, and bored. I meet people wherever I go half the time when I'm at the store people come up to and for the life of me I can't remember them as I meet so many people. But they know me by name and we chit chat for a second.


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the ego is a lovely place to hide.




Elaborate :blush:



simple: your choice to preform more actions, prevents you from thinking of any actual solutions, whether for yourself, and in general. as Prisoner said earlier: we all have triggers. and you are simply avoiding them. it's common for people to do, it's basically like home self-taught therapy. i'm not condoning however. i'd rather face my problems head on.

though, over-thinking can lead to the detriment to preforming any actions, preforming actions without the forethought of what is determining those actions (which are the things you are typically avoiding) can be equally troublesome. thinking is foremost a requirement for dealing with problems, actually, and people tend to take the path of least resistance and just act on impulse instead of thinking of what they ought to do. sometimes what you ought to do is gardening... but not because you don't want to think: that's just hiding from your problems. repression.


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I just drink as it's something to do. Take a sip smoke take a sip. Come on here or browse facebook or read cracked. rinse repeat. I didn't start drinking like this until I left my home alaska. And it was because I was lonely, and bored. I meet people wherever I go half the time when I'm at the store people come up to and for the life of me I can't remember them as I meet so many people. But they know me by name and we chit chat for a second.





I know the feeling, I spend a disgusting amount of time on here and facebook.
I really need to get some hobbies, I think that would help with my depression.

I would drink if I had hard-A, I was drinking a pint a night for a week or so but just haven't been back to the liquor store yet, I'm thinking monday or tuesday when I get paid it may be time to invest in a half gallon of the cheapest vodka I can find and drink my sorrow away :hehehe:


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the ego is a lovely place to hide.




Elaborate :blush:



simple: your choice to preform more actions, prevents you from thinking of any actual solutions, whether for yourself, and in general. as Prisoner said earlier: we all have triggers. and you are simply avoiding them. it's common for people to do, it's basically like home self-taught therapy. i'm not condoning however. i'd rather face my problems head on.

though, over-thinking can lead to the detriment to preforming any actions, preforming actions without the forethought of what is determining those actions (which are the things you are typically avoiding) can be equally troublesome. thinking is foremost requirement for dealing with problems, actually, and people tend to take the path of least resistance and just act on impulse instead of thinking of what they ought to do. sometimes what you ought to do is garden... but not because you don't want to think: that's just hiding from your problems. repression.




AH shit you lost me, let me re-read this a few times...
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Sometimes though, there isn't an immediate solution to the problem, sometimes feeling better for the moment is all we have, and If I can find a way to feel better in the moment without the use of external substances than I am happy with that solution.

I do agree, now if I spent the next five years of my life gardening because I don't want to face my life than I would have a major problem, but like I said, sometimes all we have is right here right now, and right here right now I am going to clean because I don't want to think about all this other shit going on.

But, I do think and plan on ways to solve these problems permanently rather than continuously hiding.


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    #21773957 - 06/07/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well, it's especially a difficult thing when you've been addicted or run-rampant, in otherwords, with substances... i mean, to not think only in the moment, no?


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    #21773962 - 06/07/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I dont drink hard alcohol. I learned In high school it makes me black the fuck out. But I do drink 8% beers now gut rot. It's cheapest and I can't really drink anything else to get the feeling I crave. I have an incredibly addictive personality. I crave human interaction but I don't get that very often well I do but it's more acquintances then friends. So I drink


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    #21773971 - 06/07/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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well, it's especially a difficult thing when you've been addicted or run-rampant, in otherwords, with substances... i mean, to not thinking only in the moment, no?




Exactly, I've lived the last five years of my so only thinking in the moment, where I'm going to get my next fix, how I'm going to hustle money tomorrow so I'm not sick, etc, etc, so my view is very narrow right now unfortunately-- I can maybe think a week ahead? that is about it, I mean if you ask me what Im'a do tomorrow I wouldn't have an answer, I'm just doing my best to get through today mate'. :rolleyes:

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I dont drink hard alcohol. I learned In high school it makes me black the fuck out. But I do drink 8% beers now gut rot. It's cheapest and I can't really drink anything else to get the feeling I crave. I have an incredibly addictive personality. I crave human interaction but I don't get that very often well I do but it's more acquintances then friends. So I drink




I hate beer, if I am going to drink I'm going to drink, the whole bottle and then walk to the store for another.
I don't have an addictive personality, I'm just a straight up addict and will get addicted to anything I can, I was a sex addict for a couple months and It was crazy, it is what got me kicked out've my last sober house, for running gang-bangs and trains on these girls with the home-boys in the basement, management didn't approve of it. :awesomenod:


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    #21773985 - 06/07/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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that is about it, I mean if you ask me what Im'a do tomorrow I wouldn't have an answer, I'm just doing my best to get through today mate'. :rolleyes:




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    #21773989 - 06/07/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Meditation is good, even better when meditating in the wild. Music/guitar also a good relief.
Tried therapy, and damn those therapist are sick close minded scams! All that BS from therapy made me even worse, so fuck that!

But my definitive best cure for anxiety and other issues, is 2 hours in a floating chamber. Best psychedelic experience ever without drugs!


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Call it what you will I know exactly what you're saying. Girlies generally make me strive to be better than what I am. I sober up write, play music. But i've never finished anything. Lot's of poems and such but they were all to girls. I felt like I could be better. I'm incredibly intelligent I dropped out of college because all it is is money. My math teacher came up to me and said you have never missed more than one problem on any test why do you have a C. Uhh because I'm not going to pay 80$ to do my homework. If you want to print it out and grade it which you should be doing by all means do.

money. I have better ways to spend my money. And I went to UAA.


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that is about it, I mean if you ask me what Im'a do tomorrow I wouldn't have an answer, I'm just doing my best to get through today mate'. :rolleyes:




that's not good.




baby steps mate', baby steps.

Shit, if you asked me a month ago what I was going to do in an hour I wouldn't have known, least now I have an entire day planned...  I need to start making goal-lists again, getting shit done daily, weekly, monthly, etc etc.

I've got like twenty days sober-- my brain hasn't even fully bounced back yet.
So aslong as I get another day down without heroin in my vains or meth in my lungs than it is a fucking victory!

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    #21774017 - 06/07/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

But he was a good teacher. I will never forget what he said. "Using known formulas to get predictable results" when I got stuck I always thought of it. I'll never forget it. Cool guy he wanted me to go farther but god damn I was going for free and paying 3 grand out of pocket.


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But he was a good teacher. I will never forget what he said. "Using known formulas to get predictable results" when I got stuck I always thought of it. I'll never forget it. Cool guy he wanted me to go farther but god damn I was going for free and paying 3 grand out of pocket.




A college education doesn't seem to be worth much these days, plus 99% of the shit they teach you, you can learn online for free.

I dropped out aswell, the money going in just wasn't equating to the lessons coming out. :shrug:


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that is about it, I mean if you ask me what Im'a do tomorrow I wouldn't have an answer, I'm just doing my best to get through today mate'. :rolleyes:




that's not good.




baby steps mate', baby steps.

Shit, if you asked me a month ago what I was going to do in an hour I wouldn't have known, least now I have an entire day planned...  I need to start making goal-lists again, getting shit done daily, weekly, monthly, etc etc.

I've got like twenty days sober-- my brain hasn't even fully bounced back yet.
So aslong as I get another day down without heroin in my vains or meth in my lungs than it is a fucking victory!

:cheers:



hey, that is good. and lists, they might help. just plan out day by day, or the night before... that sounds like a really good idea.


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hey, that is good. and lists, they might help. just plan out day by day, or the night before... that sounds like a really good idea.





In highschool I would literally micro-manage my days, it worked pretty well actually.
I can get super OCD if I let, a daily goal journal helps get shit done daily, a week one helps you stay on track and a month list helps you remember what the end goal is-- It is always healthy to have an end goal--


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21774041 - 06/07/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21774045 - 06/07/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty much. Basically what I payed out for that one phrase of wisdom. Which I'll never forget. And UAA had just built a new astronomy dome. wtf are they called? planetarium? I took that class it was so fucking awesome. And music theory. I went in with no intention to graduate it was too easy. I just wanted to learn a couple things which is what I did.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Ganga Lova]
    #21774053 - 06/07/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Valium. Oh wait.

If there's anything I got out of therapy (not much at all), I learned that only I can help myself. And valium. Valium is great. But if you just quit smoking and drinking, high anxiety is definitely to be expected. This will subside as the rest of the withdrawal symptoms wear off. However lesser anxiety will likely remain possibly for the rest of your life. Then you're just a part of the club. Get used to it buddy.



I understand lesser anxiety will always be a part of life but constantly being on the verge of a panic attack is entirely different. Im definitely gonna give it a couple more weeks since its really only been 8 days since my last drink. I'm just not used to feeling like this


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21774054 - 06/07/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was just taking art classes because that is where my passion is, I could've given less a shit about an art degree, that shit is literally worth the paper it's printed on and that is about it.

Anyone with any real talent in art will be hired regardless of a degree in my opinion.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21774060 - 06/07/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs)?






1. Work out at the gym/play sports (soccer, basketball, disc golf, volleyball)/go for a run
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3. Hang out with good friends that don't use drugs all the time
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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21774062 - 06/07/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The only reason I went to college was the fact that I know I don't know everything. I didn't even show up for my music class final I got what I needed from It. WTF are scales and what do they mean and how do I write and read musical notation. Once I got that information I was satisfied and just dropped out.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21774074 - 06/07/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The only reason I went to college was the fact that I know I don't know everything. I didn't even show up for my music class final I got what I needed from It. WTF are scales and what do they mean and how do I write and read musical notation. Once I got that information I was satisfied and just dropped out.




Exactly, I took a philosophy class and after they gave me sober-ego-death I was satisfied.
Same with Graphic design, once they taught me how to properly use photoshop and other tools I was happy.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21774075 - 06/07/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Valium. Oh wait.

If there's anything I got out of therapy (not much at all), I learned that only I can help myself. And valium. Valium is great. But if you just quit smoking and drinking, high anxiety is definitely to be expected. This will subside as the rest of the withdrawal symptoms wear off. However lesser anxiety will likely remain possibly for the rest of your life. Then you're just a part of the club. Get used to it buddy.



I understand lesser anxiety will always be a part of life but constantly being on the verge of a panic attack is entirely different. Im definitely gonna give it a couple more weeks since its really only been 8 days since my last drink. I'm just not used to feeling like this



It will get better dude

WDs suck
i gotmild ones from etizolam
the rebound anxiety and insomnia is so shitty

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21774078 - 06/07/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The bare basics of music and photoshop both probably could have been learned off youtube, but more power to you. :lol:


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    #21774085 - 06/07/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The bare basics of music and photoshop both probably could have been learned off youtube, but more power to you. :lol:




True- but the government paid for those classes haha :awesomenod:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: SunnyD]
    #21774120 - 06/07/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Valium. Oh wait.

If there's anything I got out of therapy (not much at all), I learned that only I can help myself. And valium. Valium is great. But if you just quit smoking and drinking, high anxiety is definitely to be expected. This will subside as the rest of the withdrawal symptoms wear off. However lesser anxiety will likely remain possibly for the rest of your life. Then you're just a part of the club. Get used to it buddy.



I understand lesser anxiety will always be a part of life but constantly being on the verge of a panic attack is entirely different. Im definitely gonna give it a couple more weeks since its really only been 8 days since my last drink. I'm just not used to feeling like this



It will get better dude

WDs suck
i gotmild ones from etizolam
the rebound anxiety and insomnia is so shitty

after a week i was feeling better




if your going through alcohol wds you gotta just wait for the purge. Where your body sweats it out. I dream constantly during and there so vivid and bright i've been meaning to write them down. I wake up every hour fan myself for a second and go right back into the dream. Keep the blankets around you that sweat is toxins leaving your body. Good luck I know it sucks but something you have to do.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21774130 - 06/07/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Call it what you will I know exactly what you're saying. Girlies generally make me strive to be better than what I am. I sober up write, play music. But i've never finished anything. Lot's of poems and such but they were all to girls. I felt like I could be better. I'm incredibly intelligent I dropped out of college because all it is is money. My math teacher came up to me and said you have never missed more than one problem on any test why do you have a C. Uhh because I'm not going to pay 80$ to do my homework. If you want to print it out and grade it which you should be doing by all means do.

money. I have better ways to spend my money. And I went to UAA.



Lol I just paid $80 to do my physics homework for summer semester. Such a rip off :lol:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21774155 - 06/07/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Call it what you will I know exactly what you're saying. Girlies generally make me strive to be better than what I am. I sober up write, play music. But i've never finished anything. Lot's of poems and such but they were all to girls. I felt like I could be better. I'm incredibly intelligent I dropped out of college because all it is is money. My math teacher came up to me and said you have never missed more than one problem on any test why do you have a C. Uhh because I'm not going to pay 80$ to do my homework. If you want to print it out and grade it which you should be doing by all means do.

money. I have better ways to spend my money. And I went to UAA.



Lol I just paid $80 to do my physics homework for summer semester. Such a rip off :lol:




exactly fuck that. I can ace your tests but your not going to even kiss me on the mouth and let me have a smoke before you fuck me?


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21774160 - 06/07/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Barely lol. Weed makes my anxiety worse too ;/


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21774175 - 06/07/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah. Online hw is why I get B's and Cs instead of As and Bs. Its cool though only 3 more classes till graduation and one of them is music appreciation


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    #21774177 - 06/07/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Barely lol. Weed makes my anxiety worse too ;/



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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: MushingOut]
    #21774180 - 06/07/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Barely lol. Weed makes my anxiety worse too ;/




Same, and yet I keep smoking. :bongload::shrug:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: FreeTheSoul]
    #21774201 - 06/07/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I dunno if im crazy but I believe the brain is capable of outsmarting itself, so I think you should just learn to train your brain that anxiety is a good thing and conquer that bitch. I have noticed I like feeling somewhat physical pain and it must be because I learned to correlate pain in my mind with doing something right. Im talking about working out pain, doing work while injured type of stuff not getting hit by a car.

I think what I just said is a actual real thing, I think the free deep sea divers do the same type of training.




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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21774263 - 06/07/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah. Online hw is why I get B's and Cs instead of As and Bs. Its cool though only 3 more classes till graduation and one of them is music appreciation




I told them to fuck off. :shrug:

Oh now I'm in college and have to pay for the right to do my homework. Fuck that college is meaningless unless you do something extremely specialized. Which college is the opposite. Money money


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21774278 - 06/07/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My degree is pretty specialized so I'd say its been worth it for me. Im going into medical device sales/marketing which starts out around 60k and has a hefty little signing bonus :goodburger:


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    #21774294 - 06/07/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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My degree is pretty specialized so I'd say its been worth it for me. Im going into medical device sales/marketing which starts out around 60k and has a hefty little signing bonus :goodburger:




Yeee, prime example of a specialized degree that would definitely come in handy!

Oh and another suggestion for anxiety is taking a long shower, I meditate in the shower so it helps me. :shrug:
(plus I shower using well water so it's no biggy for me)


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    #21774330 - 06/07/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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My degree is pretty specialized so I'd say its been worth it for me. Im going into medical device sales/marketing which starts out around 60k and has a hefty little signing bonus :goodburger:




Good for you for me it was a joke. Paying a ton of money to get a few words of wisdom. Garbage straight  Banking off dumb 18 yos


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21774340 - 06/07/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

College has been worth it strictly for the girls IMO


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    #21774344 - 06/07/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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    #21774370 - 06/07/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I do it all the time. The college here I walk into lectures whenever I don't know what I don't. for college teachers they don't give a single shit. All about the money they aren't banking but the University is i can garuantee that


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    #21774380 - 06/07/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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College has been worth it strictly for the girls IMO


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: FreeTheSoul]
    #21774847 - 06/07/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I am high strung / hyper anyway so I take one in the morning and at bed.  It comes in capsules, I really feel at peace through the day.


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I just started taking it yesterday and I can't really tell if its working or not to be honest


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Grimley]
    #21775199 - 06/07/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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But my definitive best cure for anxiety and other issues, is 2 hours in a floating chamber. Best psychedelic experience ever without drugs!




:thumbup:  !!!!
Totally fucking forgot about floating chambers/isolation tanks !
That's like forced meditation and total relaxation and psychedelic experience wrapped in one. Things are fucking amazing


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21775201 - 06/07/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can tell by my hand tremors, it's genetic, my mom and uncle had them bad and I have always had them.  No more tremors.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: RobZombie68]
    #21775209 - 06/07/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Take what now?


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: RobZombie68] * 1
    #21775211 - 06/07/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stop smoking weed.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21775382 - 06/07/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21775404 - 06/07/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I will never stop smoking weed.
Well.. I wont say never... maybe if I get lung cancer or something... then I will eat it and inject it. Cannabis hardcore styles for lyfe yo. Nah fuck that I'd still smoke weed regardless.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Shroomism]
    #21775413 - 06/07/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I will never stop smoking weed.
Well.. I wont say never... maybe if I get lung cancer or something... then I will eat it and inject it. Cannabis hardcore styles for lyfe yo. Nah fuck that I'd still smoke weed regardless.




I'm debating quitting, Im'a have to in a week or two, because than all my weeds gone and I aint buying none


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21775463 - 06/07/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's called a tolerance break


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Shroomism]
    #21775466 - 06/07/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I believe weed is the cause of most people's anxiety.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21775767 - 06/07/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'd agRee. I Don't really get a lot of anxiety from it but i don't smoke before iI go to social situations.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21775783 - 06/07/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I believe weed is the cause of most people's anxiety.



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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: propensity]
    #21775840 - 06/07/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'd agRee. I Don't really get a lot of anxiety from it but i don't smoke before iI go to social situations.



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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: propensity] * 1
    #21776349 - 06/07/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it's like a fuckin' AA meeting in here.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776381 - 06/07/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm just trying to give op some advice. It sucks but you just go through it take a day to sweat it out then back to work. I balance my shit very well all though I can get in deep. Honestly Food and water help. nourish your body. I haven't been that bad in a while and I'm still drinking quite a bit.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776387 - 06/07/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Prayer/meditation can be helpful. Sometimes when I get super jittery, stretching or taking a walk helps put my mind & body at ease.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21776392 - 06/07/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i make jokes to enlighten my anxiety.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: The5thBeatle]
    #21776394 - 06/07/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Prayer/meditation can be helpful. Sometimes when I get super jittery, stretching or taking a walk helps put my mind & body at ease.





this literally made me laugh out loud. thanks!


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776416 - 06/07/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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i make jokes to enlighten my anxiety.




:rofl:

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21776425 - 06/07/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You must master the state of flow young grasshopper. From it comes many great things, razor sharp wit, excellence in atheletics, superb socialization skills. Mediation is a type of flow. When you get to that calm centered state thats what its like to be in the zone. Its an extremely beneficial state to culture. It helped me overcome my anxiety almost completely, it is capable of restructuring your brain and producing measurable changes. You will never eliminate it by analyzing your thoughts. Thats the very thing that causes it, and exactly why doing it always causes it to spiral out of control. Your not being natural, your doubting and letting your thoughts carry you away instead of acting in the most natural way possible. Mediation is extremely helpful in that respect. Theres plenty of methods out there to get to that state but they all work the same more or less. I prefer alan watts personally. He is an excellent teacher on the subject and well versed in many others.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21776471 - 06/07/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21776472 - 06/07/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thoughts are the only reason you can even create your big long winded post.

what is there to eliminate? you think... you do. what the fuck is getting in the way for you?


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21776475 - 06/07/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hippy banter = mental masturbation


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21776477 - 06/07/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I lurk around the shroomery when anxious.

:cheers:

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776478 - 06/07/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

NIce post Dr Suess. Im onto you :lol:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776484 - 06/07/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You guys have honestly never heard of the flow state? Or experienced it? You poor things :nonono:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21776491 - 06/07/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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NIce post Dr Suess. Im onto you :lol:



onto who? i'm onto Ankou, and can tell him straightly that i now flow and know what i know without meditation. i am thinking entirely and i am letting thoughts pass, so what's up with that, if you can keep your thoughts on a track? you can get with this or you can get with that, and that is a fact.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21776498 - 06/07/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No i'm not a wierdo like you. I go outside all the time.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776504 - 06/07/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Some people have it naturally. Im just saying it helped me a lot with anxiety and its worked with a lot of other people. I dont know what you expect. Should I pull out some sort of solidified truth about the affair and hand it off to you to squirrel away and study?


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21776511 - 06/07/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Man you guys suck

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21776516 - 06/07/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

HA, really now, flow happens in thoughts as much as no-thoughts, G Unit.

just imagine the irony now in the potential name "thoughts".


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776527 - 06/07/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:lolsy:

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21776534 - 06/07/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You must master the state of flow young grasshopper. From it comes many great things, razor sharp wit, excellence in atheletics, superb socialization skills. Mediation is a type of flow. When you get to that calm centered state thats what its like to be in the zone. Its an extremely beneficial state to culture. It helped me overcome my anxiety almost completely, it is capable of restructuring your brain and producing measurable changes. You will never eliminate it by analyzing your thoughts. Thats the very thing that causes it, and exactly why doing it always causes it to spiral out of control. Your not being natural, your doubting and letting your thoughts carry you away instead of acting in the most natural way possible. Mediation is extremely helpful in that respect. Theres plenty of methods out there to get to that state but they all work the same more or less. I prefer alan watts personally. He is an excellent teacher on the subject and well versed in many others.



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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21776541 - 06/07/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just sit there quietly, magic happens


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    #21776549 - 06/07/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

*unzips pants*

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    #21776551 - 06/07/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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:lolsy:

You think im gangster?

Oh my fuck :lmafo:



i call everyone G unit.

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: propensity]
    #21776552 - 06/07/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushin

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Enjoywho said:
:rolleyes:



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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: propensity]
    #21776556 - 06/07/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

they're still thoughts though, jesus what pertains to thought and what doesn't with you guys? mind is mind. thoughts aren't just born of words and emotions, they're born of chance consequences, and actions.

you choose.


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    #21776559 - 06/07/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Just sit there quietly, magic happens



magic as in?




Fuvk you mean as in, you learn to chill the fuck out breh.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21776564 - 06/07/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

CASE IN POINT: CHECKMATE: SEETHING RETORT:

you have to  TRAIN  to achieve Mushin, and "people having it naturally" doesn't happen. you learn it.

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    #21776575 - 06/07/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

PS: i think one when dealing with anxiety should do both clear their minds and then interpret their thoughts. then anxiety is overridden. then you may do actions and think about them, and not think about them equally or in some delineation, and they will serve you, which will keep you from anxiety. that or drugs. drugs work and then they don't work. AA man. AA.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776596 - 06/07/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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CASE IN POINT: CHECKMATE: SEETHING RETORT:

you have to  TRAIN  to achieve Mushin, and "people having it naturally" doesn't happen. you learn it.

THOUGHTS BREH




I dunno about that, I've always fallen naturally into states of mushin whenever engaging in activities that require it. Guitar/drawing/producing etc. Even playing video games. It happens naturally quite often.

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: propensity] * 1
    #21776610 - 06/07/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl:

You guys are dumb


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: propensity]
    #21776613 - 06/07/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, i was joking. when i said you require both thinking adn not thinking i wasn't. that's true. and not thinking is obvious useful but you still have to think to deal. you just can't log out permanently. and i'm saying that thinking would be required in dealing with anxiety. both non-thinking AND thinking i mean.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #21776630 - 06/07/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, balance is the key to everything.

But really, I'm mostly in this thread to continually do this:



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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #21776642 - 06/07/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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PS: i think one when dealing with anxiety should do both clear their minds and then interpret their thoughts. then anxiety is overridden. then you may do actions and think about them, and not think about them equally or in some delineation, and they will serve you, which will keep you from anxiety. that or drugs. drugs work and then they don't work. AA man. AA.




Dude none of this is even true. One must first learn to act with out thought, to speak without thinking to fully master themselves. It is the way.

Also im super super smart. Everyone should take what I say without question.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: propensity]
    #21776652 - 06/07/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, balance is the key to everything.

But really, I'm mostly in this thread to continually do this:







the way means nothing. actions that matter must be thought of!


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776712 - 06/07/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

But how do I control it?

Now that the voices are turned on, they wont shut up.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21776721 - 06/07/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl:

Go for it I could care less.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776747 - 06/07/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Epic picture AA


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: SunnyD]
    #21776763 - 06/07/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you see the explosion of my spirit.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21776767 - 06/07/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

but really


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21776795 - 06/08/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Do whatever they tell you.

















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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 2
    #21776798 - 06/08/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21776813 - 06/08/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Do whatever they tell you.




They are telling me to off on a rant, a rant about what? I don't even know, so I am curious myself to see...

Why, why am I so un-happy when I have been blessed with so much?
You would think I would be able to appreciate shit, but for some reason it doesn't phase me, I am as happy in a warm house as I am sleeping outside, with dope, no dope, everything is fucking gray and boring as fuck.

What the hell is wrong with me? Have I become so blunted so young that I am an ungrateful, arrogant asshole?

I don't even know anymore, better question is why I'd ask you?
Guess it is cuz no'one else is around.

fff :nonono:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21780225 - 06/08/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm incredibly intelligent



:shocked: Just how smart are you?!

Can we have a demonstration?


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Shroomism]
    #21780275 - 06/08/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Grimley said:
But my definitive best cure for anxiety and other issues, is 2 hours in a floating chamber. Best psychedelic experience ever without drugs!




:thumbup:  !!!!
Totally fucking forgot about floating chambers/isolation tanks !
That's like forced meditation and total relaxation and psychedelic experience wrapped in one. Things are fucking amazing



I've heard mixed reviews about flotation tanks. Plus, I don't have the money to spend on that shit anyway


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21814134 - 06/16/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How's everything been man?

Still anxious?


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21814143 - 06/16/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If youre worrying about x, draw your attention to y


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: ModestMouse]
    #21814149 - 06/16/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you can't tell me what to do,

you're not my real dad!


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21814152 - 06/16/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How's everything been man?

Still anxious?




Nah I'm good. I think it was more a symptom of the DTs and alcohol withdrawal than anything. Took about 2 weeks to get my shit together.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21814156 - 06/16/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:manofapproval:  :cultureclash:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21814165 - 06/16/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I'm glad I feel like myself again. There's no way I could go through life feeling like that all the time. I understand anxiety is normal in certain situations but waking up and automatically freaking the fuck out was just way too much to handle. It's definitely deterred me from drinking heavily again.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21814169 - 06/16/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah man, I've been there.  It's no way to live.

Super glad to hear you worked it out though.

Are you still drinking?  Beer only diet or something?


Did you ever end up trying any kind of meditation?


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21814176 - 06/16/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm doing the beer diet. It really helps that my girl doesn't keep an liquor at her place anymore as well.

The meditation thing is really hit or miss for me. Sometimes I'm like fuck yeah that was amazing and sometimes I'm like meh. I guess I just gotta get better at it. :shrug:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21814187 - 06/16/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thats how it goes man.  the only time I've had really reliable "success" was when I was doing it every day, for weeks/months.  But I think that's just because you're more in that mindstate already, so it's easy to tap into.


at the very least, nice deep breathing always gives me a really good sense of calmness and sometimes I need the disaprin to just sit and do nothing for 15 minutes.

It sounds funny, but I get caught up in so much garbage everyday, sometimes it's hard to just stop and relax for a second.


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