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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21773874 - 06/07/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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the ego is a lovely place to hide.




Elaborate :blush:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: RobZombie68]
    #21773882 - 06/07/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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AddyZomeD said:
Your alchohol WDs is probably the source of the anxiety malconm



quiting alcohol after drinking a long time can leave you with anxiety for days to years. For most people its probably a combination of wd and the fact they prob had a bit of anxiety before they started drinking. For most people it also goes away after normally a few weeks, but you still can get post acute withdrawal symptoms which could last way longer.
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I use Valerian root.  I would get anxiety attacks so bad my hands would be shaking, sometimes losing motor control in them, haven't had one since, very relaxing.



Do you eat that stuff? Ive thought about trying it out for sleep on nights when I really need it.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21773901 - 06/07/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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that's the thing it makes me anxious not having it. i know i need to quit. i know whats causing it. denial is not something i do. i was a heroin addict for 3 years im 2 years clean june 15th. i know whats causing it and honestly alcohol wds are worse than heroin imo.




Yeah those w/d can kill you!! be careful, heroin w/d aren't shit to benzo/alcohol withdrawal.

Can you be in denial if you think your in denial? lol, idk man-- I don't have the answers I just have ideas on how to stay sober because I'm desperately trying to achieve the same goal, I quit drinking a few days ago and am just smoking weed now.




I just drink as it's something to do. Take a sip smoke take a sip. Come on here or browse facebook or read cracked. rinse repeat. I didn't start drinking like this until I left my home alaska. And it was because I was lonely, and bored. I meet people wherever I go half the time when I'm at the store people come up to and for the life of me I can't remember them as I meet so many people. But they know me by name and we chit chat for a second.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21773942 - 06/07/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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the ego is a lovely place to hide.




Elaborate :blush:



simple: your choice to preform more actions, prevents you from thinking of any actual solutions, whether for yourself, and in general. as Prisoner said earlier: we all have triggers. and you are simply avoiding them. it's common for people to do, it's basically like home self-taught therapy. i'm not condoning however. i'd rather face my problems head on.

though, over-thinking can lead to the detriment to preforming any actions, preforming actions without the forethought of what is determining those actions (which are the things you are typically avoiding) can be equally troublesome. thinking is foremost a requirement for dealing with problems, actually, and people tend to take the path of least resistance and just act on impulse instead of thinking of what they ought to do. sometimes what you ought to do is gardening... but not because you don't want to think: that's just hiding from your problems. repression.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21773944 - 06/07/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I just drink as it's something to do. Take a sip smoke take a sip. Come on here or browse facebook or read cracked. rinse repeat. I didn't start drinking like this until I left my home alaska. And it was because I was lonely, and bored. I meet people wherever I go half the time when I'm at the store people come up to and for the life of me I can't remember them as I meet so many people. But they know me by name and we chit chat for a second.





I know the feeling, I spend a disgusting amount of time on here and facebook.
I really need to get some hobbies, I think that would help with my depression.

I would drink if I had hard-A, I was drinking a pint a night for a week or so but just haven't been back to the liquor store yet, I'm thinking monday or tuesday when I get paid it may be time to invest in a half gallon of the cheapest vodka I can find and drink my sorrow away :hehehe:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21773950 - 06/07/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheNatureKid said:
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the ego is a lovely place to hide.




Elaborate :blush:



simple: your choice to preform more actions, prevents you from thinking of any actual solutions, whether for yourself, and in general. as Prisoner said earlier: we all have triggers. and you are simply avoiding them. it's common for people to do, it's basically like home self-taught therapy. i'm not condoning however. i'd rather face my problems head on.

though, over-thinking can lead to the detriment to preforming any actions, preforming actions without the forethought of what is determining those actions (which are the things you are typically avoiding) can be equally troublesome. thinking is foremost requirement for dealing with problems, actually, and people tend to take the path of least resistance and just act on impulse instead of thinking of what they ought to do. sometimes what you ought to do is garden... but not because you don't want to think: that's just hiding from your problems. repression.




AH shit you lost me, let me re-read this a few times...
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Sometimes though, there isn't an immediate solution to the problem, sometimes feeling better for the moment is all we have, and If I can find a way to feel better in the moment without the use of external substances than I am happy with that solution.

I do agree, now if I spent the next five years of my life gardening because I don't want to face my life than I would have a major problem, but like I said, sometimes all we have is right here right now, and right here right now I am going to clean because I don't want to think about all this other shit going on.

But, I do think and plan on ways to solve these problems permanently rather than continuously hiding.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21773957 - 06/07/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well, it's especially a difficult thing when you've been addicted or run-rampant, in otherwords, with substances... i mean, to not think only in the moment, no?


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21773962 - 06/07/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I dont drink hard alcohol. I learned In high school it makes me black the fuck out. But I do drink 8% beers now gut rot. It's cheapest and I can't really drink anything else to get the feeling I crave. I have an incredibly addictive personality. I crave human interaction but I don't get that very often well I do but it's more acquintances then friends. So I drink


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21773971 - 06/07/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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well, it's especially a difficult thing when you've been addicted or run-rampant, in otherwords, with substances... i mean, to not thinking only in the moment, no?




Exactly, I've lived the last five years of my so only thinking in the moment, where I'm going to get my next fix, how I'm going to hustle money tomorrow so I'm not sick, etc, etc, so my view is very narrow right now unfortunately-- I can maybe think a week ahead? that is about it, I mean if you ask me what Im'a do tomorrow I wouldn't have an answer, I'm just doing my best to get through today mate'. :rolleyes:

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I dont drink hard alcohol. I learned In high school it makes me black the fuck out. But I do drink 8% beers now gut rot. It's cheapest and I can't really drink anything else to get the feeling I crave. I have an incredibly addictive personality. I crave human interaction but I don't get that very often well I do but it's more acquintances then friends. So I drink




I hate beer, if I am going to drink I'm going to drink, the whole bottle and then walk to the store for another.
I don't have an addictive personality, I'm just a straight up addict and will get addicted to anything I can, I was a sex addict for a couple months and It was crazy, it is what got me kicked out've my last sober house, for running gang-bangs and trains on these girls with the home-boys in the basement, management didn't approve of it. :awesomenod:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21773985 - 06/07/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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that is about it, I mean if you ask me what Im'a do tomorrow I wouldn't have an answer, I'm just doing my best to get through today mate'. :rolleyes:




that's not good.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21773989 - 06/07/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Meditation is good, even better when meditating in the wild. Music/guitar also a good relief.
Tried therapy, and damn those therapist are sick close minded scams! All that BS from therapy made me even worse, so fuck that!

But my definitive best cure for anxiety and other issues, is 2 hours in a floating chamber. Best psychedelic experience ever without drugs!


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21773993 - 06/07/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Call it what you will I know exactly what you're saying. Girlies generally make me strive to be better than what I am. I sober up write, play music. But i've never finished anything. Lot's of poems and such but they were all to girls. I felt like I could be better. I'm incredibly intelligent I dropped out of college because all it is is money. My math teacher came up to me and said you have never missed more than one problem on any test why do you have a C. Uhh because I'm not going to pay 80$ to do my homework. If you want to print it out and grade it which you should be doing by all means do.

money. I have better ways to spend my money. And I went to UAA.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21774000 - 06/07/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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that is about it, I mean if you ask me what Im'a do tomorrow I wouldn't have an answer, I'm just doing my best to get through today mate'. :rolleyes:




that's not good.




baby steps mate', baby steps.

Shit, if you asked me a month ago what I was going to do in an hour I wouldn't have known, least now I have an entire day planned...  I need to start making goal-lists again, getting shit done daily, weekly, monthly, etc etc.

I've got like twenty days sober-- my brain hasn't even fully bounced back yet.
So aslong as I get another day down without heroin in my vains or meth in my lungs than it is a fucking victory!

:cheers:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21774017 - 06/07/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

But he was a good teacher. I will never forget what he said. "Using known formulas to get predictable results" when I got stuck I always thought of it. I'll never forget it. Cool guy he wanted me to go farther but god damn I was going for free and paying 3 grand out of pocket.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21774027 - 06/07/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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But he was a good teacher. I will never forget what he said. "Using known formulas to get predictable results" when I got stuck I always thought of it. I'll never forget it. Cool guy he wanted me to go farther but god damn I was going for free and paying 3 grand out of pocket.




A college education doesn't seem to be worth much these days, plus 99% of the shit they teach you, you can learn online for free.

I dropped out aswell, the money going in just wasn't equating to the lessons coming out. :shrug:


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21774030 - 06/07/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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that is about it, I mean if you ask me what Im'a do tomorrow I wouldn't have an answer, I'm just doing my best to get through today mate'. :rolleyes:




that's not good.




baby steps mate', baby steps.

Shit, if you asked me a month ago what I was going to do in an hour I wouldn't have known, least now I have an entire day planned...  I need to start making goal-lists again, getting shit done daily, weekly, monthly, etc etc.

I've got like twenty days sober-- my brain hasn't even fully bounced back yet.
So aslong as I get another day down without heroin in my vains or meth in my lungs than it is a fucking victory!

:cheers:



hey, that is good. and lists, they might help. just plan out day by day, or the night before... that sounds like a really good idea.


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    #21774040 - 06/07/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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hey, that is good. and lists, they might help. just plan out day by day, or the night before... that sounds like a really good idea.





In highschool I would literally micro-manage my days, it worked pretty well actually.
I can get super OCD if I let, a daily goal journal helps get shit done daily, a week one helps you stay on track and a month list helps you remember what the end goal is-- It is always healthy to have an end goal--


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    #21774041 - 06/07/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: TNK]
    #21774045 - 06/07/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty much. Basically what I payed out for that one phrase of wisdom. Which I'll never forget. And UAA had just built a new astronomy dome. wtf are they called? planetarium? I took that class it was so fucking awesome. And music theory. I went in with no intention to graduate it was too easy. I just wanted to learn a couple things which is what I did.


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Re: How do do you guys manage your anxiety? (without drugs) [Re: Ganga Lova]
    #21774053 - 06/07/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Valium. Oh wait.

If there's anything I got out of therapy (not much at all), I learned that only I can help myself. And valium. Valium is great. But if you just quit smoking and drinking, high anxiety is definitely to be expected. This will subside as the rest of the withdrawal symptoms wear off. However lesser anxiety will likely remain possibly for the rest of your life. Then you're just a part of the club. Get used to it buddy.



I understand lesser anxiety will always be a part of life but constantly being on the verge of a panic attack is entirely different. Im definitely gonna give it a couple more weeks since its really only been 8 days since my last drink. I'm just not used to feeling like this


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