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How large is a single DMT dose visually?
    #21772608 - 06/07/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think my scale could weigh out doses that small, so I want to get a general idea of the size of a dose. I'm wanting to start on the light side here.

according to the nexus, thats around 10-15 mg. So, is it more the size of a BB or a grain of rice? Or maybe you have a better small object to compare it to.

I was hoping to try this for the first time tonight. As always I had a last minute question. hopefully somebody can help me out :vibin:


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #21772647 - 06/07/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It would be kind of like a bb pellet or closer to a grain of rice you know? Like not a lot, but not a tiny bit either. Somewhere between hardly anything and to much.


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21772681 - 06/07/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i've always used the size of a match head.. i believe terence mckenna recommended that size dose


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Taybs]
    #21772683 - 06/07/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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i've always used the size of a match head.. i believe terence mckenna recommended that size dose



oh yeah, I remember that now from somewhere at least. many thanks


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21773638 - 06/07/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Took a few times to learn how to use my vapor genie better. (I had practiced with hash oil in it, but never gotten visible vapor. Think I was holing the flame too far away)

All of a sudden towards the end of my attempt I finally get a good sized lungful of visible vapor.

I think I definitely need to get a torch lighter though. I had three bics in rotation because they were getting so damn hot.


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21773693 - 06/07/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

^^^I'm not keen on my GVG for DMT unless it's in the form of changa.  The same problem arises as with any other pipe with a screen.  The powdered DMT sublimates and falls through the screen and away from the heat.  Not very good, IMHO.  For changa, it's the boss!

*** To the OP. ***  A match-head size is plenty for starters if you get the vaporization right. The mistake most common to all newbies with DMT is the application of too MUCH heat.  There.  Now you can't say no one told you.  :lol:

Let us know how you make out.

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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21773731 - 06/07/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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^^^I'm not keen on my GVG for DMT unless it's in the form of changa.  The same problem arises as with any other pipe with a screen.  The powdered DMT sublimates and falls through the screen and away from the heat.  Not very good, IMHO.  For changa, it's the boss!

*** To the OP. ***  A match-head size is plenty for starters if you get the vaporization right. The mistake most common to all newbies with DMT is the application of too MUCH heat.  There.  Now you can't say no one told you.  :lol:

Let us know how you make out.

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I suppose its a good thing I have a less pure goopy form of DMT then. melts right into a ball of copper mesh.

Is there an easy way to tell if you've used too much heat and burned it? Will the smoke be distinctly harsh and foul tasting?


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21773788 - 06/07/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Is there an easy way to tell if you've used too much heat and burned it? Will the smoke be distinctly harsh and foul tasting?




There's a couple of clues.  As you say, it will taste harsh and a bit bitter.  The vapor itself will be hot and tend to make you cough.  And then you will not get the level of experience you would expect from the mass of DMT consumed.

Back when I was vaporizing DMT freebase in a "meth" pipe, I perfected a technique which went as follows:  Measured quantity was dropped into the bowl.  When I was all set to blast off, I passed the flame of an ordinary Bic back and forth at a distance to get the FB JUST to the point where it would liquify.  THEN and only then did I put the pipe to my lips and SLOWLY inhale while applying additional heat.

Done this way you never accidentally inhale powder into your mouth, and believe me, you could break through on one lightish hit followed by a good one.  I no longer do that, preferring changa over powdered FB, but damn if that wasn't the best way I ever used!

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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21773845 - 06/07/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Is there an easy way to tell if you've used too much heat and burned it? Will the smoke be distinctly harsh and foul tasting?




There's a couple of clues.  As you say, it will taste harsh and a bit bitter.  The vapor itself will be hot and tend to make you cough.  And then you will not get the level of experience you would expect from the mass of DMT consumed.

Back when I was vaporizing DMT freebase in a "meth" pipe, I perfected a technique which went as follows:  Measured quantity was dropped into the bowl.  When I was all set to blast off, I passed the flame of an ordinary Bic back and forth at a distance to get the FB JUST to the point where it would liquify.  THEN and only then did I put the pipe to my lips and SLOWLY inhale while applying additional heat.

Done this way you never accidentally inhale powder into your mouth, and believe me, you could break through on one lightish hit followed by a good one.  I no longer do that, preferring changa over powdered FB, but damn if that wasn't the best way I ever used!

N.B.



Never had luck with the freebase pipes myself, but it sounds like my technique was incorrect.

I only recently heard of changa. sounds like the way to go though, after I get a little experience.


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21773872 - 06/07/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My crystals are fluffy. So I use about a dime sized amount. American of course.


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21786743 - 06/10/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

having a little trouble breaking through. Got some pretty interesting effects this time though. It produced an effect I associate with 'whip-its' wherein my brain senses a rapid pulse that changed speed.

Gonna try simply putting more into the bowl this time.

Edit: tried more and still didn't get there. must be my technique. A torch lighter would make this a lot easier I feel like


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21788257 - 06/10/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I noticed when I stopped trying to breakthrough, it happened much more often.

A breakthrough is never guaranteed, it's more than a dosage thing, your mind has to be in The right mind set, almost meditative. There has to be pretty much no distractions around. You have to be extremely comfortable with how your sitting/laying. And the less worries on your mind the better.

Smoking technique does have a huge part though, you could be burning or not vaping a huge chunk of your bowl and that could have something to do with it.


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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21788780 - 06/10/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Personal sensitivity is also a factor.  Are you aware that 10% of individuals are literally immune to DMT?  That was the one fact which came out of Rick Strassman's study that I felt was accurate.  Most all the rest was speculative poppycock.

So...more likely than not, there is a spectrum from "super sensitive" right up to "incredible hardhead."  Where you lie on that spectrum is a function of your own brain/body chemistry and may very well influence whether you can EVER have a "breakthrough" experience.

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Re: How large is a single DMT dose visually? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21791256 - 06/11/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hadn't heard that, sure would be lame.

Hopefully the mild effects I experienced indicate I'm not immune. I think I'm going to make some changa


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