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Aerial Myc, or contam?
    #21771907 - 06/06/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

First time jar grow (fruiting stage). So, I have this thick, fuzzy, white stuff on my cakes. I am curious as to what it is. It looks like aerial myc. It feels like mushrooms. Everything smells like mushrooms. But this is becoming more abundant. I am thinking maybe too much moisture. What do you think?

P.S. Apparently, I am having issues uploading pictures right now.... I will do my best to get some up soon.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21771960 - 06/06/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

We need those pics but my instinct is aerial mycelium and a lack of Fae.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Matt87]
    #21771975 - 06/06/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I feel as though I may have added too much water to the perilite thus making a "too-high" humidity climate. I have been fanning the environment several times a day. A little more than usual to get rid of some moisture. It certainly looks like aerial myc. It's a beautiful white. It just seems a bit to fuzzy to me. Again, first time grower.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21772010 - 06/06/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also, lack of fea?


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21772034 - 06/06/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Could I see some pics of your grow setup and the cakes? It would help get a definite answer.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Matt87]
    #21772039 - 06/06/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lack of Fresh Air Exchange (Fae)


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Matt87]
    #21772903 - 06/07/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I Exchange the air quite often. I will try to upload some pics again.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21774320 - 06/07/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Here are a couple pics.



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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21774425 - 06/07/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Soooo no dunk and roll? Looks like verm at both ends, but none in the middle. They need more moisture. Mist them DIRECTLY until they're shimmering/glistening wet and keep them like that 24/7. It isn't uncommon to mist 3-6 times a day.

There's only 2 places you need to mist. The perlite and the cakes. The walls and lid don't need shit.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21774480 - 06/07/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh crap. The opposite of what I expected. Well, as far as the dunk and roll, I was going to do that after my first flush. Everywhere I looked said that it wasn't necessary to dunk until the first flush. I will order more verm and start misting. Thank you for your help.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21774530 - 06/07/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I actually don't mist at all. I have a humidifier. Here is a pic of my kit(s).



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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21774535 - 06/07/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What teks did you follow? Cause there's so much wrong with that in the teks I'm familiar with.

Colonizing cakes don't need to be in the fruiting chamber, in fact it'd probably just make the dry verm layer wet and you'd get higher risk of contams. Especially with the foil there collecting condensation on top of that.

What chamber is that? You understand in that situation perlite is useless? Perlite needs a draft from underneath to push the humidity up into the chamber. That's why it's used on a shotgun and ONLY a shotgun which has holes drilled on ALL 6 sides, bottom and lid.

Shotguns are elevated at least 6 inches high so there is airflow under the chamber. Lastly humidifiers don't provide moisture to cakes. It provides humidity which is counterproductive since you want low humidity for evaporation. You want high surface humidity (cakes glistening wet) all the time for there to be constant evaporation.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21776579 - 06/07/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So much I didn't know! I understand I have a lot left to learn. So far everything is growing well though. I have had little problem with contam. I have already had a great, healthy looking harvest. I have taken steps to better my system upon your suggestion. I do have one more question. On some caps, there are fuzzy, nipple-looking "growths". Is that bad/ what does that mean? Here is a pic.



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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21776601 - 06/07/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Mycelium :smile: I'm just saying in nature they get their moisture from rain. So we need to mist directly.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21777308 - 06/08/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Very true. Sweet! Thank you! I will keep that in mind.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21779332 - 06/08/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So, my cakes are turning funny colors and the new mushrooms are dark, blueish, and super fuzzy white. This started when I began misting them. The white fuzz was there, but it got worse.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21779387 - 06/08/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I told you what they looked like at the time, which was dry. The fuzz/long stems doesn't go away, but it'll be reduced with fae. Ideally you want to be misting more than not because you have a good amount of fae. I told you that you wanted a high surface humidity and a lower relative humidity. This is accomplished with fae. Evaporation, fae, and humidity all go hand in hand and are each as important as the other.

Thus the shotgun chamber wad born. Just telling you what makes it superior. Hundreds of holes definitely provide lots of fresh air.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21780124 - 06/08/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok. So, everything looks ok though? I have been misting about 4 times per day since your suggestion. The cakes are glistening with moisture. But the blue color. Is that just bruising from something then?


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21780141 - 06/08/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah its bruised. I'm not sure if it's from being dry or getting a little zealous when misting. Overall still good. Needs more fae.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21780650 - 06/08/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ha! To be honest, the first thing I thought is that I was a bit over zealous with my misting. I do believe I have the hang of it now. Although, it may be from being dry. I guess I don't know for sure, but I fea between 8 and 10 times per day. Also, those darker, bluish looking mushrooms... Do you think they can still be consumed?


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: pusher218]
    #21780668 - 06/08/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'd let them chill. Wait until the caps turn pitch black before picking. They're still edible. They might be dormant too :smile:

It needs constant exchange of co2.. 10 exchanges a day doesn't normally cut it. Strategic holes in the chamber is best for that


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21780717 - 06/08/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, from the pics, that doesn't look like a sgfc. I see no holes.


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Re: Aerial Myc, or contam? [Re: Matt87]
    #21784153 - 06/09/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What is sgfc? I do believe you were right though. The mushrooms are starting to come up a nice, beautiful red color again. The fuzzy bluish ones are still fuzzy and blue, but growing faster.


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