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madmodder
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Bitter Cactus said: You gotta switch the strain all the time bro it keeps your tolerance to each strain super low.
So 4 is a good start to a variety? What strains do you have in your stash? How long have you been using kratom? Thanks
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: madmodder]
#21776036 - 06/07/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What is this "strain syndrome"
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: madmodder]
#21776088 - 06/07/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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madmodder said:
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Bitter Cactus said: You gotta switch the strain all the time bro it keeps your tolerance to each strain super low.
So 4 is a good start to a variety? What strains do you have in your stash? How long have you been using kratom? Thanks 
I have an order coming. Green vein borneo, red vein bali, white vein borneo, red vein horned kratom. I will have a quarter kilogram of each strain.
Single strain syndrome is real. It is when you keep dosing the same leaf for a long period of time and stop feeling the effects. I try to balance my orders usually with a couple reds or greens and one white. I find switching it up as much as possible gives you consistent effects each time.
Each strain has different alkaloid variations and if you switch it up you don't build much of a tolerance.
Kratom is different then weed in that I could be blind folded and be given a white or red and tell the difference. The effects are so different.
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Take a tablespoon 
That usually gets me right
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: DpRwav]
#21776752 - 06/07/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've been mixing my Maeng Da, Bali Red, and Red Thai since last Monday. I can't even tell which one is the most potent. I really like how clean these are though.
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: DpRwav]
#21776759 - 06/07/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ac1dHeaD said: Take a tablespoon 
That usually gets me right
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My kratom must suck because it takes me more than that
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: DpRwav]
#21776770 - 06/07/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ac1dHeaD said: Take a tablespoon 
That usually gets me right
right in the kisser
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: Amanita86]
#21776771 - 06/07/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yah that is a tiny ass dose. I'd only feel that if I didn't eat anything for days.
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: Amanita86]
#21776785 - 06/08/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: My kratom must suck because it takes me more than that 
You must be opiate tolerant more than oth e rs
also strains just have different levels of mitragyne and 7hydroxymitragyne
7mitragyne being much more sedatating
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: SunnyD]
#21776923 - 06/08/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even green strains like maeng da, at a tbsp will cover me with a nice warmth/opiate high.
Ive found also no matter the strain a tbsp is always pretty close to like 20mg of hydrocodone.
Not entirely replicating, but extremely close. Also not entirely the same between strains but still close to each other, kinda like how weed is for me.
Idk kratom is weird.
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: DpRwav]
#21776930 - 06/08/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kratom is dope man it's the only drug that has never burned me.
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The pharmacological effects of kratom on humans are not well studied. Its metabolic half-life, protein binding, and elimination characteristics are all unknown.[5] Kratom behaves as a μ-opioid receptor agonist, similar to opiates like morphine, although its effects differ significantly from those of opiates.[5] Kratom does not appear to have significant adverse effects, and in particular appears not to cause the hypoventilation typical of other opioids.[5] Compulsive use has been reported among drug users who inject opioids, and those who use opioids to manage pain without direction from medical professionals.[5]
might as well call it that
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: Konyap]
#21776950 - 06/08/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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DpRwav
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Bitter Cactus said: Kratom is dope man it's the only drug that has never burned me.
Kratom burned me. Once.
But i was coming down off 500ug of 1p-lsd and tried to eat a bunch and fucking yacked it up.
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: DpRwav]
#21776982 - 06/08/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have yet to puke from kratom
but back when i was a noob with my dosing i came close to puking lots of times
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: SunnyD]
#21776989 - 06/08/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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N00b..
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: Amanita86] 1
#21777000 - 06/08/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I guess im a kraiken noob cause im hopelessly addicted.4lyfe ya her rr
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: SunnyD]
#21777001 - 06/08/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It was like a weird gag reflex thing that had never happened to me before. It just got stuck everywhere you wouldnt want krat and it disoriented me. I had got some down and then there was kratom in even more place you dont want kratom. Goopy acidic kratom.
It would of gone viral had it been recorded.
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Re: red vein borneo kratom, SUCKS [Re: DpRwav]
#21777005 - 06/08/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've launched it in the bushes a few times. Those after puke endorphines that get released mix real well with kratom.
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