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Offlinechasingwaterfalls
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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: metaphoric]
    #21772611 - 06/07/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

lol even watching RR do it in a video, there's only so many things a person can say NOT to do, right? so it was a lesson learned for me, hope it helps you - I used a thin wooden skewer, like for kabobs, and twisted/pushed through at least half a foot for the side holes, and just tried my best to loosen it up while watching the surface and the cakes. guess anything will do

but i agree, if anything, you've just delayed the process and perhaps used up some nutes, but hey, just a small delay is not bad at all compared to starting over


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Invisiblemeowshroom
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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21772635 - 06/07/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I see your problem...

Allow little to no airflow around the FC.

Your sides aren't condensing.  Get more water in there.

74 degrees is PERFECT.

Dunk and roll will, under the right humidity, produce airy MC within 3 days.  If it does not, you're doing something wrong.

My bet is your humidity is around 70% and it needs to be 95%.

Better to have humid and stale air than non-humidy and whatever air.


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Offlinechasingwaterfalls
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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: meowshroom]
    #21772654 - 06/07/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Btw, I don't think sides being wet with droplets is indicative of anything more than you're either spraying the walls, or you have a temperature differential allowing for that condensation
it's been emphasized here that it isn't as important as properly misting in general? which can be directly on the cakes as long as it's as fine a mist as possible, and good evaporation can occur


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: meowshroom]
    #21772675 - 06/07/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

meowshroom said:


Better to have humid and stale air than non-humidy and whatever air.




You always want constant fresh air when fruiting...fresh air exchange is a primary pinning trigger, along with full colonization...you do not want stale air.


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #21773972 - 06/07/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)









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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21773979 - 06/07/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)





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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21773986 - 06/07/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The first pictures purpose was to emphasize the closet perimeters.
These dont look the best, but point is some spots are VERY blue, and the surface
Is very not fluffy. Also on my one pin (which seems to be growing very slow)
Has started to also turn spotty blue.


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21774182 - 06/07/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It sounds to be like its dead overlay, but ive heard that only happens when casing?
The water almost sorta puddles on the tops of the ones that real real flat, which ive heard happens
When theyre is a layer of dead cells.
So my questions now are

What should i do with these cakes to get them going?
A spotty blue on my pin is just bruising right it doesnt mean much? (Its slow so probably an abort anyway i guess)
Can cakes overlay, or something like it?
If so, what causes it? What do i do about it?


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21781460 - 06/09/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well i re-dunked them yesterday night, and
Put them in a new prepared SGFC this afternoon. A good ammount of
Bruising is gone, so they must have been dehydrated. But so far no apparent myc growth.


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21794306 - 06/11/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

/Some/ fluffy mycelium grew in the last 2 days.
Lesson learned: "Light" is a subjective word. If they
Are severly bruising, they probably need a dunk and
Are drying out too fast.
Will just make this a grow log in case another noob can take something from it.


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21794431 - 06/11/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Too much misting and excessive water can cause all that you described. Hopefully you have things squared away... Always try taking away one thing at a time to narrow down the issue.  Stop misting for a day or two to see the reaction you get , then if no change go from there . Most of the time it will take about 7 to 14 days for cakes or any substrate to start throwing pins. Most issues are caused by too much water, excess bruising and small fruits. Or drying out.  I tend to rely on my perlite and the substrate for moisture with a light mist once or twice a day. But this is different in every situation depending on the air in your space and dryness or humidity.

I see now after reading that it might be from drying... Hope to see theyve bounced back.


Edited by mycomaniac1402 (06/11/15 06:50 PM)


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: mycomaniac1402]
    #21794708 - 06/11/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What kind of perlite are you using?


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: GIjoe420]
    #21794769 - 06/11/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Miracle grow, sadly. Im currently debating if i should
Ship in more coarse perlite from a sponsor, cause i
Cant find anything but miracle grow where i live.


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21794781 - 06/11/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah i think i was over spraying when i got scared of the drying out. I hardly
Sprayed at all the last day or 2 and they're looking better than
They have yet. I think i was spraying too little to begin with, then too much.


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21794880 - 06/11/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You are WAAAAAYYYY over thinking this man. The Miracle Grow stuff has a whole lot of dust and is a fine perlite.... no good. You need to use the coarse horticultural grade stuff to get proper FAE in your set-up. So either order some from a sponsor or get to sifting what you have through a strainer with decent holes.

The shit would be at your house now if you ordered it when I first called you out on this a week ago.....

I did the EXACT SAME THING you are doing now on my first BRF run.....Happy growing..... and go ahead and order a 40 lb. bag of patience with that perlite. :thumbup:


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: mush madness]
    #21796308 - 06/12/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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mush madness said:
You need to wait 7 days after fully colonized to birth

Mist lightly/ not heavily directly on the cakes and only when dry

Make sure you have 6 inch clearance on all sides

Stop handling

Go back and read the tek




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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21797060 - 06/12/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Alright, big bag of perlite and 40 lbs of patients
Is on its way. Thanks a lot GI Jo.


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21798751 - 06/12/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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2) All living things contain one or more cells
3) All living things use energy.
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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21819837 - 06/17/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



Alright so sponsors shipping prices for perlite are not affordable,
But i found a farmers market and got some coarse perlite. The cakes have
Still yet to do anything but i calibrated my analogue hygro. And
It reads 89 rh, so if it jumps when i replace the perlite ill bet rh was
My problem.


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Re: Where are my pins? [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #21823370 - 06/18/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



Indeed, my rh did jump up. Its finally 95% but we'll see if it lasts. Noticed one small
Pin grew within the last couple of days so they're certainly still alive. Ive got more cakes coming soon
Though that'll help answer the gene variable question.


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