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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: kr0nik0]
#21993420 - 07/25/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn, that sucks about the one here locally, they also have a CMW i60, here is a link to the store around me, take a look if you got time, I probably will be going in the morning if I get time, but you seem to know a hell of a lot about them, so if you, are anyone else has the time to check this place out, and see if that mini subox is def. the way to go, which it sounds like it, but I just know his def. works great, and is def. very sturdy, that is kind of the one thing that I really like about his, cause I have seen it take some major shit, and it still works like a champ, but the subox prob. is just as strong, check this place out and see if there are any other ones you really like that they carry, I'm def getting something, and they seem to have really good prices, but I def. need something that works ALL THE TIME, THE WAY I SMOKE, that's the only thing I am kind of hesitant about these thingsabout.
I think you left me a link in here were to get good and cheap cbd oil, I'm probably def. gonna get some of that to, oh, I know on the lquids, I def. LOVE vanilla, but I really don't know about much else, I smoke so much, at the beginning, I'm prob. gonna have to start out with the 24 mg. nivotine, IDK, MAYBE I can get awy with the 18, but man, I smoke 3 packs a day ATM, and have for a while, unfortunately, man I really appreciate everyones help on this, ecpesiially you Kroniko!
Oh, here isthe link http://smokesmartllc.com/ to where I will prob. be going, let me try that again that's better, I think!, oh well, better yet I think they both work!
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#21993543 - 07/25/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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mrsnuff.com
Forget gum and patches..
Well, ordering some quality kanna will hit the same receptors and nicotine and keep the cravings away, but..
nasal snuff is pretty potent nicotine-wise, and has never caused one case of cancer.
Get yerself some potent white snuff so no one can see it if it drains, and keep a hanky on you. F&T, Viking, Dholakia, are good brands.. PM me if you want any more info..
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#21994087 - 07/25/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If your main concern is durability, then I would suggest the MVP 3.0 Pro. It's around $10 more but is known for its ability be dropped regularly and keep working. The Sigelei 75 watt which is around $10 more than the MVP is the most durable popular mod on the market.
Remember, Sigelei and Innokin which make the 75wTC and MVP3.0Pro are the best brands in the industry right now when it comes to not only reliability but also their electronics and their durability.
Don't get me wrong, the Subox is a great device. It's great because of how easy it is to use, it looks great, and has the best price point. Now, if you drop it a few times there's certainly a possibility that it will break just as any other Chinese electronic. Silicone sleeves are very helpful in this department; and the Sigelei comes with one included.
If you'd like to know more about the other two more expensive mods, just let me know and I'll go into more detail about the pros of each. If you have the extraa 10-20 dollars available, it just makes sense to go with the best product available IMO.
As for the vape shop you linked me, it certainly looks great but I just would never buy my devices and atomizers at a phisical location because their prices tend to be 2-3 times more expensive than trusted online vendors. Now, if you're set on buying from them, they actually have a lot better prices (on a few, select mods) than any place in my area. I noticed they carry the Innokin Cool Fire IV 40w for $50. That's a brand new product but it's been reviewed and tested positively by a lot of reputable people in the industry so that's what I would buy at the store if forced to buy my vape there.
I know CMW's and Cloupors are the cheapest mods available but there is a reason why no one owns one that works in the vaping industry. They just don't perform as well. With that said, as long as you're vaping and not smoking that's what matters.
As for the juices, with "sub ohm" tanks which is what you'll most likely be using, 12mg's is really the peak level nicotine you'll want to use. You have to understand that 18 & 24 mg nic. levels were only designed for things like vape pens and the like which produce very little vapor. With a nice mod and tank you're going to be getting around 10 times as much vapor so you're nic. intake should be adjusted accordingly. Also, very high nic juice tastes absolutely horrible no matter how good the base flavoring is.
To give you an idea, I smoked 1 1/2 - 2 packs a day, every day for 12 years. When I first started vaping, I got a tiny vape pen and I needed 18mg juice to keep me satisfied. As soon as I switched to a mod/tank setup, I had to drop to 6mg's since I was getting sick (physically) from how much nic. was going in my body with the 18mg. So, you smoked around double what I did, that doesn't mean you should get the strongest juice possible, it just means you should get the strongest juice possible for your device ,if that makes sense, which is 12mg's.
These are all things you'll get a much better handle on when you go to the vape shop and give them a try for yourself. Honestly, the only thing I can without a doubt help you with is the device. Everything else is very subjective.
If you already purchased something and have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#21994104 - 07/25/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: To Asante, It's actually funny the past like 2 months I would say, 80% of the time don't have any cravings, but I work with my dad and we're really close so we tend to argue often, and usually that's what sets off the cravings, it seems to be my emotions that cause it and if I get irritated or frustrated it is like a burning desire in me that feels like I just have to. If I can find better ways to keep calm I could probably do it like this.
Well there you go. This is what you need. You need to know what purpose the cigarettes serve you. From there you can work out ways to no longer need them. Find a healthy way to deal with irritation and frustration instead of replacing it with the self loathing that the cigarettes trigger. Self loathing is a shitty feeling, but at least you know that feeling. At least its not the irritation or the frustration. They are conveniently pushed to the background where they can linger...
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#21995369 - 07/25/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know if this has been mentioned because I didn't read the whole thread. But, try an e-cig. Not, the shitty ones you buy at a gas station, but a quality one. I did this and I don't smoke anymore. Vaping is way healthier than smoking. I notice that I don't have pain in my lungs and throat anymore and I don't cough all the time anymore either.
Also, I was able to cut down on the number of cigarettes that I smoked daily by taking kratom daily. For some reason, the kratom made it so that I didn't crave cigarettes.
Good luck to you op.
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: kr0nik0]
#21998880 - 07/26/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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YEAH KRONIKO, I LOOKED AT THE HEAVY DUTY ONES, AND THEY ARE JUST TO BIG FOR ME, I THINK I AM GONNA GO WITH THE SUBOX, MAN I WORK IN CONSTRUCTION, SO I HOPE IT HOLDS UP! IF ANYONE IS ON HERE AND CAN ANSWER ME PRETTY QUICK, BESIDES THE BATTERIES AND THE CHARGERS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES JUICE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GET ASAP?
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#21999023 - 07/26/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you want something that isn't likely to break run out of power or is just too bothersome with it's seemingly humungous learning curve, you couldn't go far wrong having a look at these>

They are called 'nicotrol inhalers' in the US. You should be able to find them on ebay.
I opened a box on the 17/5/15 and have so far used just eight of the 36 cartriges!
Good luck.
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#21999142 - 07/26/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Imperfect Iam said: YEAH KRONIKO, I LOOKED AT THE HEAVY DUTY ONES, AND THEY ARE JUST TO BIG FOR ME, I THINK I AM GONNA GO WITH THE SUBOX, MAN I WORK IN CONSTRUCTION, SO I HOPE IT HOLDS UP! IF ANYONE IS ON HERE AND CAN ANSWER ME PRETTY QUICK, BESIDES THE BATTERIES AND THE CHARGERS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES JUICE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GET ASAP?
I just responded to your  Hope I was quick enough to catch you before ordering from fasttech. You'd be waiting for over a month to receive it from them.
@deuce: Those nicotine inhalers are just like nicotine gum or patches. They simply don't work for the majority of people. That is why they are manufactured by big tobacco companies, so they make even more profit by selling these products then the person goes back to smoking.
The reason vaping is so effective is because it essentially feels like smoking, except fun. Nowadays there's almost no learning curve anymore as devices and atomizers are extremely simple to use. Just fill it with juice and you're ready to go.
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: kr0nik0]
#21999622 - 07/26/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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WEEL, I SENT YOU A PM BACK KRONIKO, I SHOULD HAVE CHECKED MY PM'S B4 I WENT AHEAD AND ORDERED, CAUSE YUP, I ORDERED FROM FASTTECH!
OH WELL, MY BRO IS LETTING ME BORROW A CHEAP E-CIG HE HAS, AND MAN, FOR WHAT I GOT THE PRICE WAS NOT TO BAD, I GOT THE SUBOX MINI KT, 4 SAMSUNG BATTERIES, A BATTERY CHARGER THAT WILL CHARGE 4 BATTERYS AT ONCE, AND ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF BATTERIES, FOR 123 BUCKS, AND THE LATEST SHIPPING DATE SAYS 8/5, SO HOPEFULLY IT DON'T TAKE THAT LONG!
THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP GUYS!!!!!
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#22129113 - 08/22/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have really enjoyed this thread, and while waiting on the subox mini kit, I went to my local vape shop, after ordering high nicotine level vape juice on the net, went to my local shop and asked them for info on all this, and they said the kit I orderded is awesome, but while there, I spent 40 bucks on a subox mini tank, and got the cool fire 4 mod for 50 bucks, which I LOVE, the only problem is I go throught a tank of 6 % nicotine e-juice in NO TTIME
I ALSO bought the kangertech Aerotank mega, to burn my high percentage ncotine e-juice through, and really do not ccare fo that tank at all!
I am still waiting on the kit ordered from fastech, so I am glad I went ahead and purchased this Innokin cool fire 4 with the subtank mini, it will be interesting to see which mod I like better!
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#22129130 - 08/22/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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When you start getting into tanks, you're going to go through a lot of juice. I can practically watch mine drain away every time I hit it. People go to tanks for greater volumes of vapor, there is no magic trick that makes this happen. It's just vaping more liquid.
My advice, unless you have a lot of disposable income, get into making your own juice.
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Shroomslip]
#22129180 - 08/22/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice, I most def. do not have unlimited disposable income, so I def. need to start making my own, if anyone has any suggestions on good spots to look for recipes, I would appreciatte it!
Althought I was not the original op, I feel as if I was because of all the help you guys have giving me, so sorry op if it seems like I stole your thread, I did not mean to at all, but really appreciate all the awesome info u guys have gave me, I am totally on my way to becoming cig free, I have just 2 packs left of reg. smokes, then I really doubt if I buy more, this taste so much better, and hopefully it turns out to be most def. better for your health, which I think has already kind of been proven
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#22129201 - 08/22/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: Every other day at the least I've been trying to quit for the last 6 months, the furthest I've made it was two days without one. What's even worse is somehow me trying to quit is making me smoke more, because every time I think of not smoking anymore, it makes me want one and I light up. They make me feel shitty, they taste soo bad, I get shortness of breath, my chest hurts all the time, they leave shitty smells that I don't notice till later. I can't even smoke half of one without feeling shitty and throwing it away, yet still can't quit. I've read a lot of quitting smoking articles and all that fun stuff, but for those of you who have quit, what personally helped you the best or was it just strong will power which I seem to lack?
I haven't read any more than this But I have an odd take on quitting cigarettes I haven't smoked in 13 years I am 37 However I have no expert advice on will power or any other mindset of power over will I take methadone daily and though I may be the only patient at the clinic that can honestly tell other consumers that I have no light, much less a cigarette to bum, I have as many if not more vices than the average friendly addict. I stay in hot water because I constantly fail PP tests for alcohol It's not that I drink prior to my AM dose, but if I get a pee test at 6AM it is likely to show me in the wrong
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#22129214 - 08/22/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I spent less than 80 bucks on supplies (this is even including the reusable materials you need, like syringes and bottles and shit) and by my rough estimates, that's enough to make about a liter of juice, which is around 33 30ml bottles. Seduce juice is usually held up as being a desirable but cheap juice. It's around 16 for a 30ml bottle. To equal that liter I can make on 80ish, I'd have to buy over 500 dollars worth of juice. Over time the savings can really start to add up fast.
I'm kind of out of it atm so there's a chance I'm doing the math wrong, but it's fairly simple math, would be kinda hard to screw it up.
Spots to look for recipes:
http://www.kritikalmass.net/products.asp?cat=Clone+Recipes https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/350kul/solid_list_of_diy_clones/ http://e-liquid-recipes.com/list?exclsingle=0&sort=score&direction=desc
And of course there's a good bit of info in the vapers UC forum. There are some recipes, but reading through the DIY information thread, and a couple of others pertaining to the subject that I can't remember off the top of my head, should be enough to get you started.
Then again, you can always just start making your own combos, that's where I started (in fact I just made a new one up tonight, 3% caramel, 5% graham cracker, 6% orange mandarin and 2% vanilla swirl, and it's pretty good. It needs some tweaking though. Caramel is pretty strong and the orange or vanilla just isn't really coming through as much as I'd hoped). The one most important thing I've noticed when it comes to making up your own recipe, you have to stop thinking of the flavorings as food where things just totally clash and are not appetizing at all. Get creative. different flavorings react different with each other to provide totally new experiences and that are kind of amazing.
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Shroomslip]
#22148638 - 08/26/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man, still waiting on my kangersubox mini kit, just got an e=mail saying that it departs from honk kong on the 31st, so I am really glad I got this coolfire 4, it was 100 bucks with the kangertek subox mini tank I bought for it, but I LOVE IT, and it is SUPER HEAVY DUTY,it has fallen out of my shirt pocket at least 5 times; and it's still working like a champ, I also bought the Kangertech aerotank= Mega, but it sucks compared to the subox mini tank, IMO. I can,t wait for the subox mini kit to show up!
I thought someone linked a place to go to for good cheap CBD oil juice, but maybe wrong, cause looking throught, I don't see it, if anyone is still following this and got any answers, def. please don't hesitate to answer, I am also looking into making my own juice, as the good stuff is costing me as much as smokes, I have been looking at this setup, well the name of it is Liquid barns do it yourself starter kit(can't get it to cut and paste for somereason, please hit me back with what u think of it, or the best setup to get, if ya know of a better one cause I am spending A LOT on juice, cause this fucker is SOOO GOOD, along with any info on the cheap cbd oil, if ya got any
I TY ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP ON GETTING ME OFF THE CIGS, EXCEPT THE OCCASIONAL 1, BUT HELL, THAT IS WAY BETTER THEN3 PACKS A DAY, I HOPE!
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#22148677 - 08/26/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Happy to hear you're vaping. Click on the link in my sig if you have any further questions about your device, tanks, or anything else related.
I was the one talking about the CBD oil by the way. The best one I've found is from morguejuice.com
They allow you to choose how much CBD you'd like in your ejuice. Ranging from 50-150 mg's per ml.
It works wonders for anxiety. Quite well on pain too. 
Oh, and sorry to hear about you ordering from fasttech.com but I warned you man. I tried to warn you again via PM but I got a 10 day ban a couple seconds after you asked about fasttech. It should be there soon though. My last order from them took 57 days lol.
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: kr0nik0]
#22148696 - 08/26/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could just be on my end, but I can't see a link in your sig.
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: kr0nik0]
#22148724 - 08/26/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Will CBD show up on a drug test?
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22148748 - 08/26/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Could just be on my end, but I can't see a link in your sig.

Weird
It's a link to our vaper subforum
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/236Quote:
4HO-DMT said: Will CBD show up on a drug test?
Not from morguejuice.com Or milk and honey brand (too expensive and not as good)
I know most CBD oil in med and legal states have traces of THC but the ejuice I linked contains none.
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Re: I really don't know how people quit cigs. [Re: kr0nik0]
#22148780 - 08/26/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cool.
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