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WindWisperer


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Another update! I finally opened up that one Agar plate that had trich, but also an amazingly grown out circle of mycelium! It seems to be a perfect balance between a little fuzzy, but super rhizomorphic. I transfered two wedges onto new agar plates. Also here are the Chitwan, and KSSS PF jars.
KSSS:

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ShroominMe
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'fuzzy' growth = tomentose, which is natural
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firstTIMER420
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hey man, can you link jedis agar tek?
are you going to spawn those cakes to bulk? im going to make some cakes tomorrow to do that with, im tired of the inconsistent.
btw I ordered 2 pan cyan syringes and some penis envy, along with 6 others I cannot wait to try out!!
I will definitely hit you up tomorrow man, and get the ball rolling.
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WindWisperer


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Update! The first transfer is coming right along, I put one right side up, and one upside down on accident lol, I just left it there, whatever.
The growth has been tremendous over the past 24 hours! No contams in sight. Here is a better picture I was able to take, sorry for the condensation.

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WindWisperer


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firstTIMER420 said: hey man, can you link jedis agar tek?
are you going to spawn those cakes to bulk? im going to make some cakes tomorrow to do that with, im tired of the inconsistent.
btw I ordered 2 pan cyan syringes and some penis envy, along with 6 others I cannot wait to try out!!
I will definitely hit you up tomorrow man, and get the ball rolling.
I feel dumb I can't find it now lol.. Here's what I did, Credited to Jedi.
Follow Franks step for measuring out, I also used about 6 cups of mild coffee, and a palm full of gypsum.
Where it is different is fill up the pot w/ WBS with hot water, pour in coffee, and then pour gypsum over it. Put a lid on it and let it soak for 24-36 hours.
Drain the grains for 15 minutes, then load them into your PC. They are a bit more wet than normal, but PCing them for 90 minutes at 14-15 PSI does the trick. Also another difference is you can take them out of the PC while still warm once the pot is cool enough to touch, and the stop lock has gone down. Once you have them out, give them a really vigorous shake to redistribute moisture in the jars, let cool off the rest of the way (overnight) then inoculate!
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firstTIMER420
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the only thing I didn't do is really shake my jars, I shook them, just not that hard, I wish I would of but I didn't know at the time I was supposed too. Kinda pissed, wasted the grains, as well as the syringe. oh well,hopefully next time will be better\
how long did you soak your grains for?
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WindWisperer


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firstTIMER420 said: the only thing I didn't do is really shake my jars, I shook them, just not that hard, I wish I would of but I didn't know at the time I was supposed too. Kinda pissed, wasted the grains, as well as the syringe. oh well,hopefully next time will be better\
how long did you soak your grains for?
Eh just over 24 hours. I think yours might be fine, you are using rye not WBS now though right?
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firstTIMER420
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yes im using rye berries.
Kinda pissed man, I did some PF jars so I could do some trays, and I thought I elevated them enough but apparently not because even though they were barely in the water, the moisture content is fucked and the dry verm layer got really messed up in some of them, im thinking im going to just dump them before they just contam.
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WindWisperer


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firstTIMER420 said: yes im using rye berries.
Kinda pissed man, I did some PF jars so I could do some trays, and I thought I elevated them enough but apparently not because even though they were barely in the water, the moisture content is fucked and the dry verm layer got really messed up in some of them, im thinking im going to just dump them before they just contam.
Do you mean you crumbled cakes to a mixture, let it colonize, then put it on a elevated tray? How did they get wet? I'm confused.
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firstTIMER420
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no lol when I PCd them
also, how did your grains turn out?
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WindWisperer


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Oh yeah I wouldn't risk your precious inoculant on that jazz. I would just go ahead and make more, no sense in trying to salvage something that hasn't even been inoculated. My second batch of grains came out great, roll around like bbs, minimal cracked seed, and what seems to be great moisture content.
I did a little experiment today with my other grains, seeing as how I nocced them up literally 3 weeks ago, and only 1 has any signs of growth I decided to try something a little different for experiments sake. I KNOW for sure my problem was that I cracked too many of the grains, and then dried them way too much before PCing them. I decided to recreate the whole procedure for making a spore syringe, just with no spores. I let that cool down, and squirted 6-8ml of sterilized water into each of the stalled out grain jars through my SHIPs. I finished up all that in my SAB, then shook the bajeezus out of them! I have seen mixed results with this, but I figured I would try and salvage them before G2Ging the one jar that has growth.
Edited by WindWisperer (07/19/15 10:58 PM)
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WindWisperer


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By the way here are my very first cakes I did, the first flush was less than mediocre with tons of mutants, and bebeh fruits. Though the first flush was tested by a few, and said to be very potent in the 2-2.5g range, all parties involved said it felt like a full 1/8 of good mushies! The second flush has done nothing but impress, good solid fruits with healthy growth patterns! There are still a few with the weird veil mutation that kind of make them pop up on one side like a bonnet, but they are the minority now.



This guy quadrupled in size overnight!
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firstTIMER420
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I inoculated them already but have 10 more syringes, so im thinking about just saying fuckit before they contam and I have to deal with that mess... It was only B+ anyways...
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WindWisperer


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Go bury em with some hpoo, and straw on top dude!
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firstTIMER420 said: I inoculated them already but have 10 more syringes, so im thinking about just saying fuckit before they contam and I have to deal with that mess... It was only B+ anyways...
Only B+ anyways!? What's wrong with big mushrooms that can be damn potent if cloned out on agar? Who cares if they are way over used. I like the ones my GF grows better than the Chilan I grew... Of course mine were from multispore and she uses proper agar isolation and clones for potency. Met this girl about 2 months ago and just found out she grows this last week. Fucking dream come true, just have to convince her to share her bomb genetics.
In any case since you have 10 more syringes just start over, no biggie. If it's already innoced I would look at throwing the waste into your compost pile with manure and straw if you have one and throw a thin layer of soil over it(like maybe 1/2in-1in, got a couple outdoor fruits here in MI that way by the grace of god!). Mushrooms grow well in Florida as is, when I was in Ft. Lauderdale earlier this year I got lucky and picked some on my way across the state Naples and tripped very nicely. Good luck with the next round 
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WindWisperer


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UPDATE! The stalled, dried out, and predominantly cracked grain WBS jars I had are now germinating everywhere! I decided to take a shot at saving them by injecting 6-8ml of sterilized water For Science!
No sign of contamination, and there are literally 20 different places MYC is colonizing on a few of them. I will update with pictures in a few days as they come along. If I can salvage 3 quality jars out of this for a mini mono I will be happy! 
Obviously this is not a good idea for people who have jars that are colonizing slowly, these jars went 3 1/2 weeks with only one showing clumpy growth. My grains were dried out FAR too much, and this is not something anybody would recommend to someone who is getting the impatient itch because their jars are colonizing slowly. I suspect this is a very situation fix for idiots like me who cracked, then dried the crap out of their WBS.
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I crumbled 6 KSSS cakes to a 20Qt Sterilite tote. I mixed up my substrate via Damion5050's Elementary Coir Tek. Let's hope for success, and much more mushrooms than cakes!
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The fruits of the harvest have been consumed! A little over a half ounce was pulled from 3 flushes. They took a really long time to grow due to mistakes, but I believe it made them more potent. 2.75g was made into 2 batches of tea to be consumed at a cabin location. It was magical! It was by far the most profoundly spiritual psychedelic experience I've had, but had literally not a single negative vibe to it. It was laughing, deep conversations, and good times all night. Copious amounts of DMT were vaped throughout the night as well. We facilitated a lady friends first LSD trip in the same night with 50ug, and as ballsy as she was she wanted to try DMT too!?! Seriously this chick has more balls than I did. It turned out amazing! She is an official convert, she was smiling the whole night, and complained her face hurt from smiling too much the next day. She is ecstatic to get over her fear of psychedelics and now realizes she has been fed misinformation her whole life. Weekend goals complete.
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