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mushmagic
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Wasn't the dehydrator. You can run it on full power and it still wont have any noticable effect on the potency.
More likely genetics. MS is a crapshoot.
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firstTIMER420
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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: mushmagic]
#21891936 - 07/03/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had a golden teacher syringe but fucked that up, and am currently growing mexi cubs so hopefully those wil be more potent. I also have some Treasure Coast syringes but im thinking about getting some fresh TC caps and printing them myself and making my own syringes to make sure i get some good potency before wasting all tis time for shitty shrooms again.
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Mad Season
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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: mushmagic]
#21891937 - 07/03/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushmagic said: Wasn't the dehydrator. You can run it on full power and it still wont have any noticable effect on the potency.
More likely genetics. MS is a crapshoot.
also brf seems to love throwing unpotent mushies. Certain genetics seems to make better use of the nutrients. However using manure both me and azur have never had a weak MS mushroom.
Edited by Mad Season (07/03/15 10:01 AM)
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insanemike

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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: mushmagic]
#21891942 - 07/03/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushmagic said: Wasn't the dehydrator. You can run it on full power and it still wont have any noticable effect on the potency.
More likely genetics. MS is a crapshoot.
To add some gaurantee to this. None of ourTC's would be dehydrating mushrooms in a dehydrator if it effected potency.
Edited by insanemike (07/03/15 10:03 AM)
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Mad Season
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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: insanemike]
#21891952 - 07/03/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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insanemike said:
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mushmagic said: Wasn't the dehydrator. You can run it on full power and it still wont have any noticable effect on the potency.
More likely genetics. MS is a crapshoot.
To add some gaurantee to this. None of ourTC's would be dehydrating mushrooms in a dehydrator if it effected potency.
To add again, cronicr once pressure cooked mushrooms with no potency loss. Heat doesn't do shit. The longer they're wet, the less potent they get.
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PussyFart
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firstTIMER420 said: It kinda sucked, i ate 4.5g and tripped mildly. But, i think it might be from the dehydrator i used because it runs at 165F. Im going to research more into this.
The dehydrator did nothing to the potency, the actives dont break down till far past 300f.
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firstTIMER420 said: Also, i would think the later flushes would turn out better. But for some reason my later flushes turned out weird, fuzzy stems, and contamed when i tried drying them with damprid.
The contaminated because u did not fan dry them first, you just threw them in there wet and overloaded the damprid.....dessicants will only get the last 10-15% of moisture left in the fruits.
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WindWisperer


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: PussyFart]
#21893293 - 07/03/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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firstTIMER420 said: It kinda sucked, i ate 4.5g and tripped mildly. But, i think it might be from the dehydrator i used because it runs at 165F. Im going to research more into this.
The dehydrator did nothing to the potency, the actives dont break down till far past 300f.
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firstTIMER420 said: Also, i would think the later flushes would turn out better. But for some reason my later flushes turned out weird, fuzzy stems, and contamed when i tried drying them with damprid.
The contaminated because u did not fan dry them first, you just threw them in there wet and overloaded the damprid.....dessicants will only get the last 10-15% of moisture left in the fruits.
Interesting, I assumed you just want to fan dry so the outside is dry then the desiccant will take care of what is inside. I have a few mushrooms I let dry in open air with a fan for about 24 hours, then put them in the damprid. It is pretty dry here, so they seemed fine to go in to the damprid after 24 hours.
I've also got 12 more pf tek jars on the way! I am noccing them up with 6 KSSS, and 6 Chitwan. I also have 6 grain jars with MS KSSS doing their thing right now. This time I actually did the correct water ratio for my mixture, and actually pressure cooked it. I am having a good feeling about these cakes! I'm still not sure if I should take a clone of any of my current mushrooms I have, I picked a pretty decent sized one yesterday but it was a typical little Maz. It also opened up premature, and I don't want a whole mono doing that!
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WindWisperer


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Here are pictures updating what I am doing now! I just inoculated my 12 jars today, and I am seeing the first signs of growth in the grain jars. I've got what I am guessing is 3.5 grams or so drying now.
The majority of this first flush are mutants, or premature openers, only a few aborts so far.





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WindWisperer


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Here are more pics before another small picking, I saw that some of them were getting darkened gills so I picked them before they sporulated.


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TravelAgency
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They need air! Fuzzy feet like crazy!
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WindWisperer


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TravelAgency said: They need air! Fuzzy feet like crazy!
I know.. I just am trying to figure out how to get more air to them in the spot they are at. I mist and fan 3 times a day, and fan really well. I'm not sure how else to go about it other than having a fan blowing indirect air into the area they are in.
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firstTIMER420
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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: PussyFart]
#21903144 - 07/05/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i got lazy and didn't want to set up my fan, it was only part of my last flush though, 12g wet.
And, the second to last flush, i left them in my room for a day before drying because i didn't want to dry just a couple of mushrooms, probably what affected the potency.
as far as the fuzzy feet, my very last flush had fuzzy feet for some reason. I too, did everything i could to fix the FAE in the chamber, but it was the same as i had for the rest of the flushes. My theory is, as the cake gets older and produces more flushes, it obviously takes more nutrients out of the substrate and the mushrooms produced for some reason are weaker and produce fuzzy feet. I havent put a lot of thought into it, but only my last flush had fuzzy feet, none of the others.
Oh, and don't have a fan blowing indirect air in the room, it can mess up the way the SGFC works and actually reduce FAE. I have been told this by a couple TC's and other successful growers, idk if its true but mine turned out fine without the fan.
Edited by firstTIMER420 (07/05/15 10:20 PM)
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WindWisperer


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I'm sure this has been rehashed a bunch of times but I have a question. I inoculated 6 PF jars with KSSS, and 6 quart grain jars with KSSS as well. I accidentally dried out the WBS a bit I think, trying to pass the sticking to the hand / leaving moisture on TP test. I already see growth on the PF jars after just 3 days, but absolutely nothing on the grain jars after a week and a half. I'm going to just allow them to keep going, but I think I messed up a bit by not inoculating against the glass, I more or less dropped 6 drops around the middle of the jar.
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mushmagic
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Yea it very well might be colonizing in the middle where you cant see it since you didnt let it run down the wall of the jar.
Just gotta wait it out now.
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WindWisperer


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: mushmagic]
#21922888 - 07/10/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here are a few pictures of the latest thing! By the way my grain jars have started showing a tad bit of mycelium growth! Just a tich tho.. 
The KSSS is 6 days along as of this photo, and the Chitwan is also 6 days, they are on the left.
Here is a picture of my best performing clone on Pasty Plates! It was cloned from my heaviest best performing shroom that weighed 10g wet, I plan on putting it on grains in the future.


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firstTIMER420
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how are the grain jars coming along?
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WindWisperer


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Here is an update on my newest thing!! Very good rhizomorphic growth can be observed Also in one of my grain jars I just started seeing growth! Should i assume they are all like that, and shake when I first see growth? That would be 25% colonized at least I would guess since I inoculated down the middle. Also I noticed what appears to be sporulating trich in one of my agar plates after leaving for 3 days. Should I try to transfer it since the growth seems really good? Compared to the other plates it is WAY ahead, the others aren't even 10% of that plate. I can't tell if it is also a contam, but I see what appears to be rhizomorphic growth at the base of the big ball of 'mycelium'.



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ShroominMe
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Wait until 30% colonized to shake.
Yes, transfer the healthy mycelium growth to a new plate / plates. That's one of the purposes of agar, to transfer away from contams.
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firstTIMER420
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nice man!
looking good for sure, must be doing something right. Im starting my grain jars today so wish me luck, as well as my agar.
PM me when you get a chance dude.
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WindWisperer


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firstTIMER420 said: nice man!
looking good for sure, must be doing something right. Im starting my grain jars today so wish me luck, as well as my agar.
PM me when you get a chance dude.
I am starting 6 new grain jars today, getting them ready for when I transfer agar wedges! I am doing the no simmer method Jedi posted about a year ago, a lot of people have seen good results with it! With the Penningtons seed I had a hard time controlling bursting of the seeds with the simmer, wish me luck!
P.S. will do TIMER
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