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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21858133 - 06/26/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Trich, or bruising? It appears to be a greyish blue in person but I am not totally sure.



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Getting even spikier?


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21858154 - 06/26/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bruising for the first one. That's odd shaped pins on the last one. I'd keep an eye on it. Maybe make them face outwards for more fae.


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #21860859 - 06/26/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I got my PC today!! Like Christmas, or Hanukka, or whatever else floats your boat.

I'm going to get some Agar plates done, and then do some grains, then some more cakes for good measure, I'm just excited! I'll update this thread when I do more cakes, but I'll start a separate Agar to Mono thread later.

Thanks for the help my Canadian friends!



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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21861149 - 06/26/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the first one is bruising. and the pins mad is talking about, mine looked the same on spots where I had bacterial growth from over watering, they were really white on top when they grew out but eventually some of them turned normal color.

to stop the bruising, when misting try to make sure you got that part good and moist.

btw I think that is aerial mycelium from lack of FAE.  to fix this you can remove the cakes for like 5 minutes and while they are removed you re-mix the perlite in the chamber to make sure its not packed down, then run a pen or whatever thru all the holes the perlite covers, mainly the bottom, then add the cakes back in, should fix the problem.

might wanna try the saucer trick, put each of the cakes on a saucer with a little bit of water AFTER the pins appear, they suck in the water pump it into the pins, they get bigger I can attest.

Your on the most exciting part man, keep it up!

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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21866298 - 06/27/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It turns out that spiky growth on the one cake is that super rare contaminant mushroom that is thin with a greyish stem and cap. It is isolated, and will be buried later.

I'll post pictures later! I put them in dishes of water, poked the perlite out of the holes, and  moistened the perlite.


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21866313 - 06/27/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Haha figured. I was like that doesn't look like no cube pins I've seen. Glad you kept an eye on it haha


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #21871736 - 06/29/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here are the pics I promised, for some reason they wouldn't upload properly yesterday so here are some from yesterday, and new ones from today!

Here is that WEIRD as hell contaminant mushroom that seems to only occur on this forum 4 times a year..





I am getting a few caps that have opened prematurely, should I decapitate them to keep them from sporulating?







Here is a pic after I misted, and refilled the little saucers with water. Does this look correct? I also fanned for about 2 minutes straight.



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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21871751 - 06/29/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Workman said:
#2 Small Gray Unknown (Spikes)

A less common but not rare contaminate, sometimes mistaken for Panaeolus or malformed Pleurotus (oyster mushrooms).  The mushrooms are small and thin with white spores.  The cap and stem are the same color, usually grayish. Reported about once a year on this forum. This is almost certainly a collection of similar species since there is some variability in appearance.  Collybia is a possible genus.  The contamination source is apparently environmental spore load.  Not active or edible, possibly poisonous. DO NOT EAT!

       

Threads with  for above images

Rahz (2005)
bensoncd1990 (2007)
juggaloskater (2008)
gmarkball (2011)
Scarousel (2012)
F4112N (2012)
capncaveman (2014)

Microscopy of juggaloskater specimen


The reports of this rarer type of contaminate are hard to find in the forums since they lack common search keywords, so let me know if I missed any.  I am pretty sure I've seen a few more over the years.



Haha looks like it. Weird. That's a hilariously crazy first contamination. My first contamination I've never seem anything like it yet. Close to cinnamon mold.

As for the premature open one, I'd just pick it.


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #21871756 - 06/29/15 01:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Mad, I'm glad I didn't let my freaky shroomies get that far along! I'll just go ahead and pick the one tomorrow then when I have the spot to stick it somewhere.


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21871789 - 06/29/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Kill it with fire


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21871835 - 06/29/15 02:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21872492 - 06/29/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

good job keeping an eye on that shit man, that's a first for me, ive never even heard about that contam until today, im glad I saw this though. 

Makes you wonder how that got contaminated like that, like was it in the spores in the syringe or what, either way that is whack!

Can you post some pictures of the fruits thus far? :growshrooms:


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21874431 - 06/29/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'll have some updated pics of the fruits tomorrow! I know it is a weird one, I happened to know what it was because I went through the thread listing it, I only recognized it because it had pictures. What's more is it seems to only affect a cake or two, not spreading super easily like trich.


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21876187 - 06/30/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here is the one that opened up prematurely about 24 hours later, nearly doubled in size. Should I just decapitate it at this point since it is growing so well?



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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21885048 - 07/01/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here is the same cake with a huge amount of growth! I am getting a lot of mutants that are opening up on just a quarter of the cap though. What do you guys think I should do, harvest all the goofy mutants that are opening way premature?









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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21885194 - 07/01/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yes, if they are opening up premature before the majority.

also, take the temp/rH thermometer out and only use it if you have doubts or think something might be wrong, otherwise itll break.

did you end up taking those infected cakes out of the chamber.


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21885894 - 07/02/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes I took the infected mushrooms out! There seems to be no other problems with contams related to those mushrooms. I am just dealing with the goofy premature opening caps. I'll take the Hygrometer out of the chamber, you're right it hasn't done me any favors. None of them seem to be releasing spores though.


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21886835 - 07/02/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that's a good thing! sporesplosion can ruin future flushes and from what ive read there is dispute that it can cause contams(idk how true that is though)

Would you say the premature mushies look like blobs?  If so, look that up because there are plenty of posts regarding getting blobs on the first flush, and others as well.  Although people dispute what causes mushrooms to form like this, im sure you can look at what people are saying and weed out the conditions similar in your grow, and then try to eliminate them and get some nice BEAUTIFUL mushroom friends!

im not sure if you said it already but what strain is it?

good luck man, btw, I wanna see some nice fruit pics when you get some!


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21888735 - 07/02/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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that's a good thing! sporesplosion can ruin future flushes and from what ive read there is dispute that it can cause contams(idk how true that is though)

Would you say the premature mushies look like blobs?  If so, look that up because there are plenty of posts regarding getting blobs on the first flush, and others as well.  Although people dispute what causes mushrooms to form like this, im sure you can look at what people are saying and weed out the conditions similar in your grow, and then try to eliminate them and get some nice BEAUTIFUL mushroom friends!

im not sure if you said it already but what strain is it?

good luck man, btw, I wanna see some nice fruit pics when you get some!




The little goofy ones do have a blob-y quality to them, but I think that is offset by the fact that they are Mazatapec. I've seen a few threads with other people who had Maz, and they opened prematurely on the first flush. I'm assuming it is a fluke that has to do with certain maz genetics. I will let them continue to grow, and the first sign they aren't growing anymore, or right as the gills darken up like they are about to release spores I will pick them! On another note at least the second flush seems to work out well. I would have probably just gone with B+ if I had known Maz was a lot more prone to goofy mutants from the get go, but I have decided to just appreciate the goofy little dudes, and give them the best I can anyways!


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Re: First PF Tek Cultivation [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21891856 - 07/03/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i gotcha. I went with B+ because everyone seems to say like it is a good strain to start with, hardy, easy to grow.  It was very hardy and i will attest to that.  My cakes turned DARK blue and still put out 3 flushes, it was insane.  The only thing im pissed about is that the potency wasn't really there.

It kinda sucked, i ate 4.5g and tripped mildly.  But, i think it might be from the dehydrator i used because it runs at 165F. Im going to research more into this.

Also, i would think the later flushes would turn out better. But for some reason my later flushes turned out weird, fuzzy stems, and contamed when i tried drying them with damprid.


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