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Offlinegremlin
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how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities
    #2176812 - 12/14/03 02:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

or actually go into an alternate universe


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: gremlin]
    #2176847 - 12/14/03 03:11 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

That has little to do with how much shrooms you take.

I'd say 5+grams will open the door but I've heard that getting a level 5 trip, complete ego loss and loss of connection with reality, takes more than psilocybin, you have be to mentally ready for something like that. I've heard of level 5 trips from 1.8 grams, from people who are skilled at meditation and such...of course those who are masters at meditation can probably achieve something similar to a level 5 trip with no substances at all. I've heard of people taking 10+ grams and not getting a level 5 trip...most people will not be able to get past level 4 no matter how many shrooms they take unless they know their mind a bit better than most people.

It seems like you are rather new here, not sure how experienced you are but be careful, something like going into an alternate universe on shrooms won't be "fun" it will be incredibly intense, and possibly frightening, unless you have enough experience with shrooms. Many people will find that experience rewarding, but it certainly isn't because it is "fun" or "cool." Make sure you are experienced enough before trying big doses.


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: jong21]
    #2176950 - 12/14/03 04:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You see visual patterns and geometrical and kailascopic designs but not entities. If you want entities take DMT like the McKenna Bros and then you will see their aliens they tals so much of. However when i do DMT I see the spirits inthe trees and plants .

When i take mescaline i see the earth, the trees, the Flowers, the air, the Water and the colors and the living. And I do not noticed the man-made buull shit of life.

When i take acid I watch as things melt and reshape theirselves in my mind.

When I eat ashrooms i see into myself.

Yes there are differences inthese drugs and the highs and they are different in each individual, ech time they take them but the drugs are not siliar. They only workl on the same part of the brain. On the serotonine.

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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2176968 - 12/14/03 04:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Haha I like that question, it's like asking how many beers you have to drink at a party to get laid. Has alot more to do with YOU, than with what you take.


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: Ginseng]
    #2177096 - 12/14/03 05:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2177165 - 12/14/03 05:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

believe me...if youre not a very experienced tripper, you really don't want to go at level 5...its not recreational anymore, its not a really fun state...

but i dont think you could see entities like coming in your room on mushies...thats just not right...if you want to talk to youre dead aunt in youre living room or sometn, take sometn really bad for you, like dramamine ;p...(but don't , really)


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: Grapefruity]
    #2179206 - 12/15/03 12:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i have dosed as much as 14 grams of dried shrooms at one time and that still didnt give me hallucinations. shrooms dont seem to make me hallucinate. the only 3 drugs that have gave me somewhat a minor hallucination was HBWR, DXM, and Salvia.


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: gremlin]
    #2179345 - 12/15/03 01:27 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I encountered entities regularly in the early days of tripping on moderate doses of mushrooms (3-5 dried grams) and laying down with my eyes closed in peace and quiet.

I tended to find that the more emotion was involved the trip the less the entities appeared - seemed to be a trade-off between leaving your emotions and attachments behind and encountering entities. The thing is I often prefer the emotional effects of shrooms to meeting entities. I've taken 25-30 dried grams of cubensis and 3-400 cyans and didn't meet the entities because I preferred to concentreat on the euphoric emotional effects

It doesn't take big doses, it takes a clear, emotion-free open mind. Which can be quite tricky to achieve.


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: gremlin]
    #2180465 - 12/15/03 08:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

No amount of shrooms will cause you to see entities or go into another world. Thats just stupid primtive crap that hippies have picked up on. Grow up and face reality!

Your irrational approuch to psychedellics mean you will never experience their true glory and all they can do for you. You will only experience cheap, bad trips.


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: ]
    #2180675 - 12/15/03 09:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The McKenna brothers actually stated that they heard and communicated with entities on strong doses of psilocybin as well as DMT.
I myself had never had an entity encounter even on very high doses of Ps.cyanescens, subaeruginosa and Pan cyanescens.


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: Zen Peddler] * 3
    #2181433 - 12/16/03 02:13 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i consider myself an entity and for an 8th of mushrooms ill talk to ya


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: coastaltripn]
    #2181548 - 12/16/03 03:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

take some syrian rue with your shrooms then you might meet some entities


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: gremlin]
    #2181821 - 12/16/03 08:12 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You don't need drugs to encounter entities, search for lucid dreams on yahoo or something. You can meet entities in lucid dreams plus you pretty much have full control over them.

But then again these entites (theoretically excluding your spirit guide) are a creation of your own mind, not in asistance with drugs. Although it is supposed to be very similar to DMT which occurs naturally in the brain and COULD be released while entering the lucid state.

These entities give pretty damn good answers when you ask them a question.

And you do enter another world, where you can do anything you want including flying, and even making the sky change colours. However it can take many years to make them stable enough for long experiences.


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: gremlin]
    #2181829 - 12/16/03 08:28 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Best

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Ever

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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2181950 - 12/16/03 10:13 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

recalcitrant said:
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fuckin cool :-)


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: entiformatie]
    #2181951 - 12/16/03 10:14 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You act like you didn't know you had to take 42 mushrooms to see entities.  :rolleyes: n00bs


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: gremlin]
    #2181957 - 12/16/03 10:16 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

read "way of the shaman" i think by michael harner (might not be by him though. regardless, it has a very good explanation on how to approach shamanism, in a non-bullshit way (unlike everything else i've ever read about it). try that, then try it on shrooms. entities aren't created when you are on shrooms, you are just better able to perceive them. you can do that sober. it really has nothing to do with amount (although they are kinda hard to ignore at higher doses).

also, what kind of entities do you mean exactly?


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: gremlin]
    #2182618 - 12/16/03 03:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I saw some interesting "entities" during my hardest trip, a 1/2 oz of mushrooms. I layed in my room with my eyes shut...saw some neon-tube rabbit creatures chilling in some hyperdimensional grass, making noises. Hmmm anyway...

I have some DMT I've used like 6 times or something...only gotten the mild effects. Just recently obtained a little glass tube I'm going to use to 'breakthrough'.


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: beam]
    #2183292 - 12/16/03 06:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

beam said:
You don't need drugs to encounter entities, search for lucid dreams on yahoo or something. You can meet entities in lucid dreams plus you pretty much have full control over them.

But then again these entites (theoretically excluding your spirit guide) are a creation of your own mind, not in asistance with drugs. Although it is supposed to be very similar to DMT which occurs naturally in the brain and COULD be released while entering the lucid state.

These entities give pretty damn good answers when you ask them a question.

And you do enter another world, where you can do anything you want including flying, and even making the sky change colours. However it can take many years to make them stable enough for long experiences.




I have encountered entities in a lucid dream, it had very close aspects of how i imagine and have read about some nn dmt experiences being. They were threatening, i couldnt fly but i was in a super technological world where i could move horizontally, vertically or laterally however i wanted, just had to be on lines, couldnt move diagonal. Anyways, it was pretty fucking crazy, super realistic .. ALOT more realistic than any trip ive ever had, except for maybe a huge dose of 10x salvia on 4 hits of blotter and 2 tabs of e.


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Re: how much shrooms do u have to take to see entities [Re: gremlin]
    #2183490 - 12/16/03 07:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)







These were drawn while tripping, as I keep a journal on me for such times. The first image is the spirit of the treasure coast as shown to me, the next is unkown, however a very potent spirit. The last is a tree spirit(trust me) I saw when walking past a patch of trees. I guess it really depends on your def of seeing spirits, but the best analogy I can come to is akin to channeling.

The TC and the tree spirit come from my second journal titled "...So we ate them all, April 24, 2003" I nice flush it was. The second unknown mush spirit is from "Psychedelic Paisley Giraffe, Oct 1, 2003" Which was a nicely stereotypical 60's colour-wavey sound altering trip. I kept asking my roommates if they could hear my guitar, and if it sounded out of tune to them(it was perfectly tuned...)

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