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Cop kills white guy for no reason
#21767505 - 06/05/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know if this was posted before. This video is graphic. They were looking for someone who was waiving a gun around. And this guy fit the description. He had his headphones in, and couldn't hear them. They shot and killed him and he had no weapon..
And you know what's funny? I seen this video on facebook. And I didn't see a single black person commenting on it. IF this guy was black, the whole entire community would be in an uproar. Wouldn't you agree?
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday] 3
#21767512 - 06/05/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why do you people insist on turning this into a race issue? You're just as bad as the people you are complaining about.
The problem is with the police. It's not a fucking black or white issue. Most are equally enraged about this than any other unjustified murder of unarmed innocent people, who gives a fuck what color their skin is. Oh thats right, racists.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism] 2
#21767517 - 06/05/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually it's a media issue.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday] 3
#21767522 - 06/05/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know what media you're talking about but I get mine just fine.. then again I don't pay attention to mainstream media because it's all biased controlled bullshit for the most part and you should know that. But actually, you are the one bringing it up about the color of the person's skin and everyone would be in an uproar if he was black. People are in an uproar about this too. Like I said, it's not a race issue. It's a police issue. The mainstream media is fucked too but they aren't the ones killing innocent people.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday] 2
#21767523 - 06/05/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The monkeys in the street turned it into a race issue. Especially when they targeted non-black businesses to loot.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#21767539 - 06/05/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i dont see any racing monkeys
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: ManianFH]
#21767540 - 06/05/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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one less honky mother fucker, praise jesus
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
#21767554 - 06/05/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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JustForToday said: Actually it's a media issue.
Because the media shot that guy...
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: spazmodog]
#21767561 - 06/05/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i've not seen the video till now... lol, "hand hands now"
the guy's dying and he's worried telling him proper protocol for a CRIMINAL,... when the guy isn't a criminal.
anyone who thinks this is ok. Die.
die seriously, just die. do die and serve the entire human race in your death.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21767569 - 06/05/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The monkeys in the street turned it into a race issue. Especially when they targeted non-black businesses to loot.
they only care about their own, because people only care about their own... including white people... that's why they are doing that... because they NEED TO.
it's not exactly righteous... but unfortunately, considering humanity ONLY cares about their own "kind" (which is an misunderstanding of things right off the bat), it's necessary for them to stand up for themselves as... a black community. because the white community will not do it for them. you'd do the same if your community's (of whites or whatever denomination you are of) were in need of standing up against injustice. plus, you probably COULD... but you won't. they do though, and good for them.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#21767571 - 06/05/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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this is the third thread about this video
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Adolin]
#21767585 - 06/05/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah, well, i know... i just haven't seen the video. i don't usually care to... all i see here is some idiot cop being a total scumtard (and by that a mean someone who is too ignorant and stupid to be justified in their existence) who is... everything evil in the world. ignorant... stupid... unaware... a robotic automaton... given cart blanche to be an absolutely scummy person due to their persona or their position in hierarchy.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Green Meat]
#21767586 - 06/05/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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JustForToday said: Actually it's a media issue.
Because the media shot that guy...
Media is baised and picks and chooses stories. Remember George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin? They ran with that story for months. It was worse than Caitlyn Jenner.
But, this didn't make headlines. Now why not? This is even worse than anything else they have shown. This was cold blooded murder.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
#21767590 - 06/05/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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funny, many people argue against the cold hard facts looking them straight in the face, when the person is black... and that's here on the Shroomery.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
#21767592 - 06/05/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The monkeys in the street turned it into a race issue. Especially when they targeted non-black businesses to loot.
they only care about their own, because people only care about their own... including white people... that's why they are doing that... because they NEED TO.
Good luck to them. All the white people protesting with them should just go home I guess.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
#21767593 - 06/05/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Guys. Give it a fuckin rest.
Jesus Christ
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Adolin]
#21767597 - 06/05/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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was that even the right guy?
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
#21767598 - 06/05/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I remember when this shooting happened.
Killings by Utah police are outpacing gang, drug, child abuse homicides.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/1842489-155/killings-by-utah-police-outpacing-gang
"To protect and serve". Fucking lol
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21767601 - 06/05/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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and good luck to this white guy in the video. he won't get any banners. because he's white. and not just because he's white... but because white people are ... too bloated to care about their own kind. after all half the world is white... only a certain percentile is black... and blacks are the like the Jews... hated all-around... for no reason, off the bat, other than for the reasons they're given past the fact of a racial problem, though blamed on a race, because it's easier for bloated people to do.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#21767710 - 06/05/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That was the most boring snuff film I've ever seen
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Konyap] 1
#21767871 - 06/05/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm no cop lover but let's break down this situation:
There's a report of a man waving around a gun. As the officer is pulling up to the parking lot, three men are visible. The victim is CLEARLY visible in the video (white shirt, stands out from the other two men). All three men CLEARLY notice the cop car (around 0:10). The victim turns around and starts walking away and the other two stand still, again obviously aware of the police car. So don't give me this bullshit about the victim not being aware of the officer/officers.
The officer approaches the man from behind. Again, this is a man who potentially has a firearm. The officer gives the man a command to get his hands out, which are stuffed down the front of his pants. The victim ignores him. You can argue that he doesn't hear the command the first time; I don't buy it, and here's why. The officer continues to command the victim to get his hands out and the man turns around, sees the officer has his gun drawn and CLEARLY shouts "No fool!" (around 0:34).
This proves a couple things: the victim was aware of the cops and their commands instead of innocently listening to music on his phone/iPod. It also proves that he's a moron for thinking it's OK to disrespect police officers who have their guns drawn and see him as a threat to their safety.
Should the officers have approached the man with guns drawn? No. They should have sought a non-lethal way to end the confrontation. Were the officers justified in their immediate response to subdue the victim? I say yes, undoubtedly. There were 117 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty last year, averages to one every three days. If I'm a cop, I'm not taking any chances. Personally I wouldn't use a firearm, but I wouldn't hesitate to taser that man. I can't see what he's reaching for in his pants, he's aware that I have my gun drawn, and he's made it clear that he is not thinking logically. How can you defend the victim's actions?
The responses in this thread make me wonder if any of you watched the video for details instead of the gore and cop-hate.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
#21767895 - 06/05/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the victims inaction.
you mean the victims inactions... and i can explain them... he's a human who's free and not the cops puppet.
nice try though.
PS: moving your feet and not wanting to address the police when they just "pop up" and you have no idea why... is not illegal... just... before you go there. just know.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
#21767919 - 06/05/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I will never get over them handcuffing people after shooting them. Maybe there is a perfectly valid reason behind it, but that just really brings the inhumanity home.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#21767933 - 06/05/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Like it or not, the police have a job to do. They get a report about a man waving a gun around, they are obligated to investigate. It's their job and the majority of them simply want to do their job, get a paycheck, and go home to their families. You can say he's "free" but that doesn't excuse him from the laws that govern our country. Any logical human being would acknowledge the officer's commands, prove that they don't have a gun, and go about their fucking day.
Instead, this moron decides he's gonna act tough and make a scene, and he died as a result. Check out this facebook post from the guy's page a few days before the shooting. Gives a little insight into the victim's state of mind.
https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/s-sl-shooting-dillion-facebook-post-2-explicit-copy1.jpg?w=770
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
#21767950 - 06/05/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There were 117 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty last year, averages to one every three days.
That's funny cause there were 479 killed by them already this year
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database# (thanks shroomism)
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#21767971 - 06/05/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: the victims inaction.
PS: moving your feet and not wanting to address the police when they just "pop up" and you have no idea why... is not illegal... just... before you go there. just know.
Cmon man, the video clearly shows that it's more than that. He's not just moving his feet and not wanting to address the police. He's ignoring direct commands from officers with their guns drawn. He CLEARLY SEES THE OFFICER POINTING A GUN AT HIM. And he decides to yell "No fool!" and make a sudden movement with hands that aren't visible. That's not inaction. That's a stupid, reckless, arrogant action and it got him killed.
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That's funny cause there were 479 killed by them already this year
Believe it or not, a lot of those people deserved to be killed. I can't get that webpage to load, but I'm assuming that statistic doesn't say how many of those people were innocent.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
#21768001 - 06/05/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Guilty until proved innocent, eh? How American.
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#21768010 - 06/05/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's funny cause there were 479 killed by them already this year
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database# (thanks shroomism)
Ok I got that link to load. The first one I clicked on: June 4. Two masked gunman hold up a pizza restaurant. One holds a gun (carrying blanks) to an off-duty detective. The detective kills him. Unquestionably justified.
Second one: June 3. Man leads police on chase, police deploy K9, man threatens them with knife. Police kill him. Questionably justified, I would have rather seen them use non-lethal force but force was indeed necessary.
Third: June 3. Man matching description of robbery is struck by officer's car and dies from injuries. Not justified, but it's under investigation.
Fourth: June 3. This one has very little detail, says "something happened" during domestic welfare check and officers opened fire. Impossible to tell if it's justified.
Fifth: Man exits home with shotgun and points it at officers. Entirely justified.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
#21768013 - 06/05/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can someone please make a cop shoots innocent person mega thread? If not I'll make one later.
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#21768027 - 06/05/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Guilty until proved innocent, eh? How American.
You're twisting my words. I said a lot of them deserved to be killed, not all of them.
Read my previous post. At least two of the first five deaths I looked into were completely justified. No question. The moment you point a gun at an officer, you're guilty.
Would you like me to paraphrase some more of the entries from the link you provided?
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June 3: Man assaults police officer, steals police SUV, later points shotgun at officers and is killed. Man's accomplice shoots himself during the events. Justified.
June 3: Man flees from home at high speeds, suspected of drive by shooting, shoots at officers, is shot by officers. Justified.
June 2: Man is being investigated for terrorism, threatens officers with large knife. Justified, but sounds like nonlethal force should have been used.
June 1: Man is stabbing a woman, is commanded to drop knife, refuses, is shot. Justified.
June 1: Man is making suicidal threats, is on large amounts of Xanaxx. Drags cop with his car, is shot. Not sure about this one, there's not much detail.
June 1: Man robs liquor store, cops show up, man points gun at them, gets shot. Justified.
This is over the course of three fucking days. Have you considered the fact that there might just be a lot of shitty people on this planet?
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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clown133 said: Should the officers have approached the man with guns drawn? No. They should have sought a non-lethal way to end the confrontation. Were the officers justified in their immediate response to subdue the victim? I say yes, undoubtedly. There were 117 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty last year, averages to one every three days.
And HALF of those deaths are from car accidents.
Meanwhile, US police killed 1,104 people last year. That averages to about 3 a day.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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Police think the balance should be tipped in their favor, but the seem completely oblivious that they got into a very dangerous profession, and that alone doesn't give them a licence to kill. I firmly believe that before you kill someone, you should know that your life is in danger, or be prepared to face the consequences if you're wrong. It's the same rules the rest of us live by, and if the current cops want to abandon their post over this I will happily step into their shoes, but I refuse to put someone in jail over drugs.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism] 1
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And HALF of those deaths are from car accidents.
Meanwhile, US police killed 1,104 people last year. That averages to about 3 a day.
Check out the entries I lifted from the link you apparently provided some time ago.
Would you agree that the majority of those people deserved to be shot and killed?
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
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moonrockmushy said: Police think the balance should be tipped in their favor, but the seem completely oblivious that they got into a very dangerous profession, and that alone doesn't give them a licence to kill. I firmly believe that before you kill someone, you should know that your life is in danger, or be prepared to face the consequences if you're wrong. It's the same rules the rest of us live by, and if the current cops want to abandon their post I will happily step into their shoes, but I refuse to put someone in jail over drugs.
Drugs have little to nothing to do with this. Look at the entries I lifted from the link you provided. People pointing guns at cops deserve to be shot. If you feel differently please explain yourself. If you have a gun and someone is pointing a gun at you, don't you wanna pull the trigger first?
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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Nobody deserves to be shot, even that language kinda shows your nature. It is always unfortunate, and sometimes it is justified.
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moonrockmushy said: Nobody deserves to be shot, even that language kinda shows your nature. It is always unfortunate, and sometimes it is justified.
You gotta be kidding me man.
You're telling me that the man who stole a police SUV and pointed a shotgun at officers didn't deserve to be shot? The man who was in the process of stabbing a woman and refused to drop the knife didn't deserve to be shot?
I'm not a gun advocate. I'm not a death penalty advocate. But I will stand up for a police officer who is in clear danger and is forced to make a decision between taking a life and losing his own.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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No nobody deserves that. That is why we have laws. Committing a crime doesn't make you not human.
Sometimes it is justified, but that must be weighed heavily as there is alot at stake on both sides, and you definitely shouldn't be going in thinking that there are people who deserve to die in the world. If there are police like that they need to be taken off the force.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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Drugs have little to nothing to do with this. Look at the entries I lifted from the link you provided. People pointing guns at cops deserve to be shot. If you feel differently please explain yourself. If you have a gun and someone is pointing a gun at you, don't you wanna pull the trigger first?
did the guy in the video do anything violent? no. so no force was necessary. especially since he did nothing wrong. at all.
you do not have to come to police attention whenever they hop out of their vehicle. and the guy wasn't guilty of anything, and walking away from the cop was not illegal, and so the cop was not justified in even pulling out his weapon, let alone order him around... he could have detained him, but he didn't... he just shot him
you and your kind will never be able to weasel around the facts.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
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What does "weighed heavily" mean?
Let's say you're the first officer on the scene of the man who's stabbing a woman with a large knife. You see the knife. You see the blood. You see the woman. You command the man to drop his weapon, he refuses. I'm gonna estimate (generously) that the officer had about five seconds to make a decision.
Let's say you're the officer who approaches a house where gunshots were reported and you're greeted by a man pointing a shotgun at your face. Again, how "heavily" can you "weigh" the situation?
In addition, you're right, committing a crime doesn't make you not human. However, stealing a police SUV and pointing a shotgun at officers DOES make you a homicidal danger to innocent people. There's no question in my mind that someone in that state deserves to die. I don't want someone like that to kill me. I want that officer to do whatever the hell he thinks is necessary to make sure that those shotgun shells aren't ripping through my torso. If his first course of action is to start shooting, I'm all for it.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
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You can say he's "free" but that doesn't excuse him from the laws that govern our country. Any logical human being would acknowledge the officer's commands, prove that they don't have a gun, and go about their fucking day.
and yet he was FREE BECAUSE he broke none of the laws of the country he was in. because he was illogical, doesn't mean he wasn't free to be... and doesn't mean he broke a law. he didn't.
and about the facebook thing... i don't care enough about a daily American occurence of the usual fucked-upedness to try and make excuses for the rationale of you types defending what has been proven to be a non-violent non-offender whom got killed for no reason, unless that it's reason enough to kill someone because... you think so.
which it isn't. so all of you types can just... grow up.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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The people here on the shroomery would rather the cop die then have the cop defend themselves. In all of these videos the people are being tards and not obeying the commands and deserve to be shot. If I was a cop I would do the same because I would want to come home to my family.
The lesson here is when a cop says to put your hands up put your hands up. It is in the best interest for both parties.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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I'm not going to get into your hypothetical situation here. That is totally irrelevant to the video where there was no weapon on the victim, he did not look at police, he did not commit a crime, and in my opinion he didn't do anything aggressive he just looked surprised. Your assumptions about what happened are kind of appalling to me because it seems like you will go to great lengths to justify police when at best it is very questionable what happened.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21768147 - 06/05/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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no, not at all. the people at the shroomery just want your types to stop lying to yourselves. and look at the facts.
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not obeying the commands and deserve to be shot.
stop talking. no? then you must be shot.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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The lesson here is
cops are such absolute unthinking retarded scum sometimes that you can't trust them to handle their own emotions and not kill you even if you've done absolutely nothing wrong?
yep.
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did the guy in the video do anything violent? no. so no force was necessary. especially since he did nothing wrong. at all.
you do not have to come to police attention whenever they hop out of their vehicle. and the guy wasn't guilty of anything, and walking away from the cop was not illegal, and so the cop was not justified in even pulling out his weapon, let alone order him around... he could have detained him, but he didn't... he just shot him
you and your kind will never be able to weasel around the facts.
I agree that the officer didn't need to use his firearm, but I have no problem with him wanting to subdue the victim. Here are the "facts" that the officer was approaching this situation with: Someone reported a gun. A man sees the officer and immediately begins walking the other direction. He stuffs his hands down the front of his pants where people are known to keep weapons. He yells "No fool" and refuses to comply with the officer's commands. He makes sudden movements with his hidden hands.
Again, I don't think lethal force was necessary. But if I'm in that cop's shoes, I have my taser drawn and ready to fire.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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the facts are that he had no weapon. he had nothing that was illegal. he didn't do anything illegal. and the cops made a mistake.
those are all the facts. all the rest of the presumptions on the cops part are not "facts", they are the absolute LACK of facts.
sad thing is the cop acted out of pure ignorance and ended up killing the guy and being absolutely fine with it, because of said ignorance.
was it the guy with the gun? NO.
that's the only relevant fact here. the cop fucked up.
if the cop hadn't have fucked up, and assessed the situation better, and had taken the approach calmly and without presumption of the facts, he'd have known that that guy wasn't the guy... whether the guy ran like an idiot or not, doesn't matter... he wasn't the one who was mistaken ENTIRELY about the situation. he might not have been smart about it, but he literally did nothing wrong (he certainly didn't run, just walked away. quite a suave tactic for a "supposed gun toting thug"). just died. i guess that can be construed as "wrong".
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Bitter Cactus said: The people here on the shroomery would rather the cop die then have the cop defend themselves. In all of these videos the people are being tards and not obeying the commands and deserve to be shot. If I was a cop I would do the same because I would want to come home to my family.
The lesson here is when a cop says to put your hands up put your hands up. It is in the best interest for both parties.
I would rather the cop risk his life than an innocent person die, yes, in the same way I would rather have a soldier die than a civilian. That is what they are there for, that is what they signed up for. I would respect them more if they were as careful with our lives as they are with their own, as I believe some are, but clearly some areas have problems. Police thuggery isn't just something that disappeared one day, and there is plenty of documentation for it. It happens.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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clown133 said: June 3: Man assaults police officer, steals police SUV, later points shotgun at officers and is killed. Man's accomplice shoots himself during the events. Justified.
June 3: Man flees from home at high speeds, suspected of drive by shooting, shoots at officers, is shot by officers. Justified.
June 2: Man is being investigated for terrorism, threatens officers with large knife. Justified, but sounds like nonlethal force should have been used.
June 1: Man is stabbing a woman, is commanded to drop knife, refuses, is shot. Justified.
June 1: Man is making suicidal threats, is on large amounts of Xanaxx. Drags cop with his car, is shot. Not sure about this one, there's not much detail.
June 1: Man robs liquor store, cops show up, man points gun at them, gets shot. Justified.
This is over the course of three fucking days. Have you considered the fact that there might just be a lot of shitty people on this planet?
Here's a couple you missed.
Friends said Morad, a nationally ranked debater who was preparing for university, had a bad reaction to psychedelic mushrooms and jumped through a second-story window. Police said he was shot after failing to obey commands to stop moving towards officers even when shocked with a Taser. Status Under investigation
Police were called by Walmart about an alleged shoplifter. A struggle ensued as an officer arrested Chapman in the parking lot, a witness said. After the officer's Taser was knocked from his hand he stepped back and shot Chapman. Status Under investigation
Gray died from injuries sustained during a prolonged ride in a police van while handcuffed and shackled on the floor. He was arrested after catching the eye of a police officer and running away. His death prompted protests and rioting in Baltimore and elsewhere. The six officers involved in his arrest were indicted on criminal charges including murder. Status Officer charged with crime
Scott was pulled over by North Charleston police officer Michael Slager for a minor traffic violation. Scott fled but Slager caught up with him and attempted to deploy his Taser. The Taser was not effective and as Scott ran away, Slager opened fire. The final altercation was caught on video and led to Slager being charged with murder. Status Officer charged with crime
Harris fled an arrest after he sold a gun to undercover officers working a sting operation. He was caught by officers and shot by a 73-year-old part-time reserve deputy, who said he intended to use a Taser. Harris told officers 'I'm losing my breath,' to which one replied: 'Fuck your breath.' Status Officer charged with crime
Police said Jones broke into a grocery store and tried to escape with cigarettes and Canadian coins. Two police officers confronted him on the sidewalk and tried to arrest him, but a struggle ensued. One fired a shot that hit Jones in the chest. Status Under investigation
Kassick got into an altercation with a police officer after fleeing a traffic stop. He was lying down when he was shot twice in the back. Status Criminal prosecution
Glenn was panhandling outside a bar in Venice when a customer complained that he was harassing customers. He wound up in a scuffle with a bouncer and two officers, one of whom shot and killed him. After viewing unreleased tape of the incident, LAPD police chief Charlie Beck said: 'Any time an unarmed person is shot by a Los Angeles police officer, it takes extraordinary circumstances to justify that. I have not seen those extraordinary circumstances.' Status Under investigation
A Swat team arrived at Cruice's shared residence to serve a narcotics warrant. Cruice answered the door unarmed and was shot within seconds. Police argue they 'met resistance' but witnesses in the house say Cruice was not resistant and did not reach for anything. Status Under investigation
Hall was schizophrenic and in the midst of a psychotic episode when police arrived. Officers claim Hall attacked them with a broomstick, but video released by his family suggests he may have been running away. Status Under investigation
Pierce was taken into police custody and was the victim of an officer-involved shooting a few hours later. No further details have been made available. Status Under investigation
No one is denying there's shitty people on the planet... many of those people had it coming to them or were quite obviously trying to suicide by police. But the amount of unnarmed and innocent people they kill is completely ridiculous. Or killing people for brandishing a fucking broomstick or ipod. Or killing people for petty crimes like petty theft. Or shooting people in the back who are already subdued and under arrest. Or pull ing up onto a scene and see someone wielding a knife or acting crazy and within 2 seconds unloading a magazine into their chest without trying to talk them down or go for non-lethal measures first.
Have you considered the fact there might be a lot of shitty police officers?
Sure.. cops don't have an easy job.. but they don't have the most dangerous job either, not by a long shot. They aren't even in the top fucking 10. Garbage men have much dangerous jobs than cops do. If you are too afraid of every citizen that it's shoot first and ask questions later, then you shouldn't be a cop.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Bitter Cactus] 2
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Not all police are blood thirsty pigs, but not all victims are guilty. This conflict swings both ways. I agree that the police have a right and a job to protect themselves and others, but I also believe that many police officers (in my experience) are unnecessarily aggressive and unfit for their position of power.
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moonrockmushy said: I'm not going to get into your hypothetical situation here. That is totally irrelevant to the video where there was no weapon on the victim, he did not look at police, he did not commit a crime, and in my opinion he didn't do anything aggressive he just looked surprised. Your assumptions about what happened are kind of appalling to me because it seems like you will go to great lengths to justify police when at best it is very questionable what happened.
How was the officer supposed to know the man didn't have a weapon? And how in the hell can you say this man was "surprised"? Again, he obviously saw the police car pull up, he even turned around and responded to the officer before he was shot. There was not surprise here.
I also don't think there's anything questionable about what happened. The victim was doing things that a responsible, logical person wouldn't do in that situation, and it made him look like he was a threat to the officer. The officer perceived a threat and responded accordingly. Again, I don't think lethal force was necessary. But I do believe the victim knew exactly what he was doing, was asking for trouble, and his actions warranted the use of NON-LETHAL force.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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There was not surprise here.
no there wasn't. someone doing waht that man did warrants nothing.
lets see if this can get through the head here
warrants nothing.
it warrants nothing...
thirdly it... warrants nothing.
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like he was a threat to the officer.
yes, drop another bomb...
no...
no he wasn't. no he didn't. and no no no... he didn't look like a threat, didn't present a threat, nothing of the sort... you must be insane. go see medical attention. also all the other people who say this absolute drivel, go too. go away. i know there is an island where crazy people who think every and any kind of gesture or movement or breathing pattern is a sign of danger... i know it. go there.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
#21768203 - 06/05/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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clown133 said: How was the officer supposed to know the man didn't have a weapon? And how in the hell can you say this man was "surprised"? Again, he obviously saw the police car pull up, he even turned around and responded to the officer before he was shot. There was not surprise here.
I also don't think there's anything questionable about what happened. The victim was doing things that a responsible, logical person wouldn't do in that situation, and it made him look like he was a threat to the officer. The officer perceived a threat and responded accordingly. Again, I don't think lethal force was necessary. But I do believe the victim knew exactly what he was doing, was asking for trouble, and his actions warranted the use of NON-LETHAL force.
What the fuck are you even talking about. The kid had his hands down in his pants already when the cop pulled up on him. When he realized the cop was yelling at him he turned around and when the cop told him to put him arms up that's exactly what he did.. and he got shot in the chest as soon as he did. Completely unarmed. He had maybe 2 fucking seconds to react. Don't tell me you would act completely differently if you turn around and a cop is pointing a gun at your face.
He didn't make any threatening motions, he was BACKING away from the cop. At NO POINT was he a threat. It was just SURPRISE MOThERFUCKER!! BLAM Don't pretend like you know what was going through the kids mind. Bottom line, he hadn't committed ANY crime, he was UNNARMED, and they didn't even give him 3 seconds before putting some lead in his chest.
How the fuck was he ASKING for trouble? Please fucking explain that one to me.... I didn't know walking out of 711 was asking for trouble.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
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this is why people hate Americans. because of this sort of one-sided idiot debate about nothingness construed as DANGER DANGER KILL KILL KILL.
America... the great.
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Don't pretend like you know what was going through the kids mind. Bottom line, he hadn't committed ANY crime, he was UNNARMED, and they didn't even give him 3 seconds before putting some lead in his chest.
don't forget the cuffing afterwards... of like the guy's blood choking near-corpse.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
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Here's a couple you missed.
Friends said Morad, a nationally ranked debater who was preparing for university, had a bad reaction to psychedelic mushrooms and jumped through a second-story window. Police said he was shot after failing to obey commands to stop moving towards officers even when shocked with a Taser. Status Under investigation
Police were called by Walmart about an alleged shoplifter. A struggle ensued as an officer arrested Chapman in the parking lot, a witness said. After the officer's Taser was knocked from his hand he stepped back and shot Chapman. Status Under investigation
Gray died from injuries sustained during a prolonged ride in a police van while handcuffed and shackled on the floor. He was arrested after catching the eye of a police officer and running away. His death prompted protests and rioting in Baltimore and elsewhere. The six officers involved in his arrest were indicted on criminal charges including murder. Status Officer charged with crime
Scott was pulled over by North Charleston police officer Michael Slager for a minor traffic violation. Scott fled but Slager caught up with him and attempted to deploy his Taser. The Taser was not effective and as Scott ran away, Slager opened fire. The final altercation was caught on video and led to Slager being charged with murder. Status Officer charged with crime
Harris fled an arrest after he sold a gun to undercover officers working a sting operation. He was caught by officers and shot by a 73-year-old part-time reserve deputy, who said he intended to use a Taser. Harris told officers 'I'm losing my breath,' to which one replied: 'Fuck your breath.' Status Officer charged with crime
Police said Jones broke into a grocery store and tried to escape with cigarettes and Canadian coins. Two police officers confronted him on the sidewalk and tried to arrest him, but a struggle ensued. One fired a shot that hit Jones in the chest. Status Under investigation
Kassick got into an altercation with a police officer after fleeing a traffic stop. He was lying down when he was shot twice in the back. Status Criminal prosecution
Glenn was panhandling outside a bar in Venice when a customer complained that he was harassing customers. He wound up in a scuffle with a bouncer and two officers, one of whom shot and killed him. After viewing unreleased tape of the incident, LAPD police chief Charlie Beck said: 'Any time an unarmed person is shot by a Los Angeles police officer, it takes extraordinary circumstances to justify that. I have not seen those extraordinary circumstances.' Status Under investigation
A Swat team arrived at Cruice's shared residence to serve a narcotics warrant. Cruice answered the door unarmed and was shot within seconds. Police argue they 'met resistance' but witnesses in the house say Cruice was not resistant and did not reach for anything. Status Under investigation
Hall was schizophrenic and in the midst of a psychotic episode when police arrived. Officers claim Hall attacked them with a broomstick, but video released by his family suggests he may have been running away. Status Under investigation
Pierce was taken into police custody and was the victim of an officer-involved shooting a few hours later. No further details have been made available. Status Under investigation
No one is denying there's shitty people on the planet... many of those people had it coming to them or were quite obviously trying to suicide by police. But the amount of unnarmed and innocent people they kill is completely ridiculous. Or killing people for brandishing a fucking broomstick or ipod. Or killing people for petty crimes like petty theft. Or shooting people in the back who are already subdued and under arrest. Or pull ing up onto a scene and see someone wielding a knife or acting crazy and within 2 seconds unloading a magazine into their chest without trying to talk them down or go for non-lethal measures first.
Have you considered the fact there might be a lot of shitty police officers?
Sure.. cops don't have an easy job.. but they don't have the most dangerous job either, not by a long shot. They aren't even in the top fucking 10. Garbage men have much dangerous jobs than cops do. If you are too afraid of every citizen that it's shoot first and ask questions later, then you shouldn't be a cop.
I acknowledge that many of the entries on that site are unjustified killings. No question. However, I didn't go through and pick and choose the entries I chose. I listed the first few that popped up, whether they were justified or not. I was simply making a point that there are indeed people who deserve to be shot, contrary to what moonrockmushy believes.
I think i_was_the_walrus hit the nail on the head: the conflict swings both ways. I'm in no way siding with the police on a broad scale. The big problem I have is this trend of cop-hating and labeling all law enforcement officers as bloodthirsty pigs. It's a combination of both civilians and cops becoming more accepting of violence (particularly lethal violence) as an answer, and that's a societal problem.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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you know what; hating on cops, usually doesn't effect anyone... but cops killing innocents... um, that's effecting someone... by taking their life.
one of those things is not like the other! *quotes Foo fighters, must be shot on sight*
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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moonrockmushy said: I'm not going to get into your hypothetical situation here. That is totally irrelevant to the video where there was no weapon on the victim, he did not look at police, he did not commit a crime, and in my opinion he didn't do anything aggressive he just looked surprised. Your assumptions about what happened are kind of appalling to me because it seems like you will go to great lengths to justify police when at best it is very questionable what happened.
How was the officer supposed to know the man didn't have a weapon? And how in the hell can you say this man was "surprised"? Again, he obviously saw the police car pull up, he even turned around and responded to the officer before he was shot. There was not surprise here.
I also don't think there's anything questionable about what happened. The victim was doing things that a responsible, logical person wouldn't do in that situation, and it made him look like he was a threat to the officer. The officer perceived a threat and responded accordingly. Again, I don't think lethal force was necessary. But I do believe the victim knew exactly what he was doing, was asking for trouble, and his actions warranted the use of NON-LETHAL force.
I sure as hell might walk away if police pulled into the parking lot being totally honest. They fucking shoot people, handcuff them, and watch them bleed out like it is another days work. We are allowed to not want to be fucked with. That isn't a crime. This dude did nothing wrong, actually him complied, which is probably what got him shot unfortunately. The cop should have waited to see the gun, but he didn't, and now he should suffer the consequences.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
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he should be mocked and ridiculed above all else... even if he gets jail, he should still have to endure the pure indelible anger of people he's effected, and the people whom are sick of police idiots, as a message, that hopefully might be able to change at least ONE idiot cop's braindead idiot mind.
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"Let me see your license please"
"Ok" **reaches for license
BLaM BLAM BLaM
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What the fuck are you even talking about. The kid had his hands down in his pants already when the cop pulled up on him. When he realized the cop was yelling at him he turned around and when the cop told him to put him arms up that's exactly what he did.. and he got shot in the chest as soon as he did. Completely unarmed. He had maybe 2 fucking seconds to react. Don't tell me you would act completely differently if you turn around and a cop is pointing a gun at your face.
He didn't make any threatening motions, he was BACKING away from the cop. At NO POINT was he a threat. It was just SURPRISE MOThERFUCKER!! BLAM Don't pretend like you know what was going through the kids mind. Bottom line, he hadn't committed ANY crime, he was UNNARMED, and they didn't even give him 3 seconds before putting some lead in his chest.
How the fuck was he ASKING for trouble? Please fucking explain that one to me.... I didn't know walking out of 711 was asking for trouble.
Watch the video again. 0:20 is a good shot of the victim without his hands in his pants, about to walk around the red pickup. 0:27 victim pulls his pants up and the officer draws his weapon. Again, I don't think this is necessary but I think drawing your taser is justified. This isn't just some random occurrence, there was a report of a weapon. This is the point where the man puts his hands in his pants.
And the victim didn't have two seconds to react, nor was he surprised as he "walked out of a 711". He was standing in front of the 711 where a report of a gun was called in, he and his associates clearly saw the officer, and he obviously heard and responded to the officer's commands. After the victim yells "No fool" can you honestly say that he was trying to put his hands up?
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: "Let me see your license please"
"Ok" **reaches for license
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Trigger happy retards
LOL i can't help but laugh... at just how inconsistent and idiotic it all is... *waits for Prisoner to defend the stupidest retarded actions of his favorite baton wielding friends*
fuck... this... stupid... shit
"show me your license"
*goes to get license*
"die mother fucker!"
i somehow get the impression that cop thought "black guy reaching for weapon" immediately after he went... you know... humanly... for his license. i guess either the cop expected him to just manifest the ID from his like mind, or... he was just afraid of nothingness, like as per usual.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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What the fuck are you even talking about. The kid had his hands down in his pants already when the cop pulled up on him. When he realized the cop was yelling at him he turned around and when the cop told him to put him arms up that's exactly what he did.. and he got shot in the chest as soon as he did. Completely unarmed. He had maybe 2 fucking seconds to react. Don't tell me you would act completely differently if you turn around and a cop is pointing a gun at your face.
He didn't make any threatening motions, he was BACKING away from the cop. At NO POINT was he a threat. It was just SURPRISE MOThERFUCKER!! BLAM Don't pretend like you know what was going through the kids mind. Bottom line, he hadn't committed ANY crime, he was UNNARMED, and they didn't even give him 3 seconds before putting some lead in his chest.
How the fuck was he ASKING for trouble? Please fucking explain that one to me.... I didn't know walking out of 711 was asking for trouble.
Watch the video again. 0:20 is a good shot of the victim without his hands in his pants, about to walk around the red pickup. 0:27 victim pulls his pants up and the officer draws his weapon. Again, I don't think this is necessary but I think drawing your taser is justified. This isn't just some random occurrence, there was a report of a weapon. This is the point where the man puts his hands in his pants.
And the victim didn't have two seconds to react, nor was he surprised as he "walked out of a 711". He was standing in front of the 711 where a report of a gun was called in, he and his associates clearly saw the officer, and he obviously heard and responded to the officer's commands. After the victim yells "No fool" can you honestly say that he was trying to put his hands up?
um yes.his hands were in his pants... and then he went to take them out of his pants and got shot. there is no way to know anything really because he was shot fuckin' dead, but why else would the cop have shot? because he was taking his hands out, and TRYING to put them up, like the fucking blockhead asked.
are you sure of anything? at all?
PS: in case you need this clearly defined... the guy doesn't have a police radio so... he couldn't know shit about fuck all in this situation.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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My favorite part is at 1:05 when he is handcuffing the guy he just blasted in the chest who is bleeding out dying on the ground, and he gets some blood on his hands and wipes it on the guy's pants and looks at his hand and goes "AHhhh!". Goddamn it might stain, piece of shit criminals. He probably ruined that cops day from getting his blood all over his hands.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: "Let me see your license please"
"Ok" **reaches for license
BLaM BLAM BLaM
Trigger happy retards
I've seen that footage and yes it's pretty fucked up. You're picking and choosing situations that support your argument. I'm focusing on the situation at hand, and when I did provide other examples, I chose the first five or six entries from a link you provided and didn't filter them to follow my agenda.
There's no doubt that cops fuck up daily and it results in innocent lives being lost. There's also no doubt that there are fucked up individuals who fuck up daily and it results in innocent lives being lost. IT GOES BOTH WAYS. All cops are not out to kill people, plain and simple.
Instances like the one you just provided are few and far between. It's nothing like the OP of this thread.
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Yeah this one is fucked up too. Not all cops, no. But a fucking lot of them. And we don't just ignore problems because "well not everyone is doing it". It doesn't work like that. This is a systemic problem. Not just 'a few bad apples'.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
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yeah, that's the best part for sure...
you ever see the police video where the cops down a guy who's just gotten in a car accident and fell out of his car, and then while sitting on the ground bleeding and with glass and shit in him, the cops attempted to apprehend him (the now broken person) and because he was... A: in pain and B: a human with a central nervous system, he reeled in absolute pain and... was immediately a danger and got shot to death. sitting on the ground.
oh the cops excuse for their harsh commands to "get up get up!" so that they could apprehend him... "he had blood all over him... didn't want to get any on me".
just like this cop here with his "hey i stuck this guy like a pig... hey, ha! oh well what's this oh... it's not a gun... it's blood! ah!1 oh noes!! oh how could i have known"
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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Instances like the one you just provided are few and far between. It's nothing like the OP of this thread.
NO. instances YOU provide are all the same similar bullshit you always see.
we're talking about the situation HERE and NOW, and you STILL cannot comprehend how ridiculous your assertions are, so he's trying to something ANYTHING new. because with people like you, you will try and excuse ANYTHING as long as you felt the cop "might have possibly been in danger maybe". 
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You're picking and choosing situations that support your argument.
mindblowing... that's what just about every baton loving fuckhead here does.
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Or this guy

Hey, he just got in a brutal car accident and was ejected and totally unconscious with possible spinal damage, we better pile on top of him and beat the shit out of him to eliminate the threat!
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
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lol, i am so glad i've never been in contact with the police... well once... and he was a dick, but i won him over, so it doesn't count.
but really, some cops are just the most pusillanimous dastardly spineless and weak individuals that walk the Earth.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
#21768308 - 06/05/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Yeah this one is fucked up too. Not all cops, no. But a fucking lot of them. And we don't just ignore problems because "well not everyone is doing it".
You're right. Any time someone gets shot and killed it's pretty fucked up. The fact that it's fucked up doesn't make the officer who did the shooting in the OP a bloodthirsty pig looking for perps to fill full of lead.
I'm not trying to ignore the problem, I never mentioned anything about ignoring the increasing number of officer-involved shootings. Again, my beef is with people who automatically label the police force as a whole as "pigs".
I respect you more than some of the others in this thread because you're a mod and I would hope that you're not the kind of person who has misplaced hate towards the police force. I don't necessarily like cops either (some of the ones I've dealt with were unpleasant) but I respect what they have to do and deal with on a daily basis.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
#21768323 - 06/06/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes, your type... it's well known. against the claims that all cops are scum because you're just so right and lets make the issue about what you want to address because it's all important.
but it's not. what's more important is the image AND ACTIONS which portray the cops as, more often than not, completely uncaring and panicky human beings whom shouldn't be handling dangerous type situations because they aren't fit to.
that's more important than your "campaign" because your campaign means nothing and the campaign against you subscribes the a much better view of police... one that wants the best of the best and doesn't allow cops to be as fallible as your usual crony. we alll.... alllllll already know that "not all cops are bad". see we know that, and nothing changes... so opt for change.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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akira_akuma said: lol, i am so glad i've never been in contact with the police... well once... and he was a dick, but i won him over, so it doesn't count.
but really, some cops are just the most pusillanimous dastardly spineless and weak individuals that walk the Earth.
Look, you've already backed away from some of the things you said earlier like "cops are scum, this and that, etc." You even placed me in a group of people, I'm not entirely sure what group but it was clear that you were being condescending.
You're right, SOME cops are terrible people. Civilians can be terrible people too. At least there's some sort of a filter (I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE HIRING PROCESS FOR COPS IS AN END-ALL-CATCH-ALL FOR BAD EGGS) to get past to be a cop; there's no filter to get past to be a shitty guy on the street.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
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Hey, he just got in a brutal car accident and was ejected and totally unconscious with possible spinal damage, we better pile on top of him and beat the shit out of him to eliminate the threat!
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
#21768335 - 06/06/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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there's no filter to get past a bad cop, however.
and i don't need to say every post "BTW GUYTHS COPS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY WELL MEANING PEOPLE DURP DON'T HATE"
it's a fact that police ARE humans (in fact) and that they (like most uncaring humans) will face trials and tribulations... the best ones might even show a sign of them having a soul! point is: people are all gross, mostly, and cops don't need to be given more space than anyone else to be allowed to be terrible. OR terrible people.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
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Instances like the one you just provided are few and far between. It's nothing like the OP of this thread.
NO. instances YOU provide are all the same similar bullshit you always see.
we're talking about the situation HERE and NOW, and you STILL cannot comprehend how ridiculous your assertions are, so he's trying to something ANYTHING new. because with people like you, you will try and excuse ANYTHING as long as you felt the cop "might have possibly been in danger maybe". 
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You're picking and choosing situations that support your argument.
mindblowing... that's what just about every baton loving fuckhead here does.
Why are you labeling me as a baton loving fuckhead? Do you know me? I haven't made any assumptions about the kind of person you are, I'm discussing the issue at hand.
I'd love for you to point out where I "picked and chose" situations to support my own argument. Again, I've spoken about the OP and a few entries from the Shroomism's link. I even included the entries that didn't support the point I was trying to make.
I'm tired and going to bed.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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i said it's "what just about every baton loving fuckhead here does". i was connoting to the fact that you or may not be one of these people, if you read what i had wrote more carefully.
i wasn't labelling you. i was assuming, though, that you didn't mean for what you said to sound so ridiculous though.
most of the people here love to pick and choose their arguments, for two reasons... A: the sake of arguing... and B: the fact that the argument here (AS ALWAYS) ends up going nowhere, and people (on both sides BTW) tend to bring up other things to try and drill what they are saying into the other's head, because one side is like "but their cops!" and the other is like "but it's still doesn't make what they did right!" and it never goes anywhere even from there... but hey, arguing.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133] 1
#21768447 - 06/06/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I respect most of the cops I've personally come across because they have been pretty fair and are just trying to serve the community, which is what they should be doing. Except the cop that shot my unarmed friend in the back of the head for no reason who I had to watch die at 16. He can go fuck himself. And he's still on the force.
That doesn't negate the fact that we have an increasingly more and more fucked up situation going on with wanton police brutality in the US. And now we are equipping them with military surplus gear, increasingly militarizing the police. Now they are sending out fucking SWAT teams to raid petty suspected drug dealers and shit now. How many times have they raided the wrong house and killed innocent people in this war? Well here's a map for your convenience - http://www.cato.org/raidmap
Combine the War on Drugs with the "War on Terror" and the Patriot Act and other erosions of our civil liberties and saying fuck you to the Constitution, with the increased militarization of the police and you have a dangerous combination that ruins many innocent peoples lives all the time. Cops are now a bigger threat to everyone's safety than "Terrorism" and Gangs combined. It doesn't matter if you're innocent or unarmed or not doing anything wrong. Cops kill those people all the time now too.. and get away with it. Seems most people don't care until it happens to themselves or someone they love.
It's a complicated issue to be sure and there's no one single variable that can be blamed, yes we have a lot of fucked up people in society.. but partly that's because we have such a fucked up society in the first place. Controlled by an elite few who only serve the corporate interests and have politicians in their back pocket.. most police no longer serve and protect the people...they are mostly Jackbooted thugs, Stormtroopers.. the largest gang in America.. to maintain the system and push the agenda. They are not serving the people, anymore. They are eliminating the competition and furthering the agenda of the elite to have complete control. They are merely puppets.
Yeah, sure there are some good cops still. Some people get into it for good reasons, to help the community. But the good cops sit idly by on the sidelines and do nothing as their fellow corrupt officers violate all sorts of laws with virtually complete immunity. Cops who try and report misconduct against their own get threatened, harassed, or worse. It's a fucking cutthroat system. They no longer teach how to negotiate with crazy people, they just teach how to shoot first and ask questions later. Most cops are trained to view everyone as potential threats. So you can see why they are so quick to shoot the fuck out of anyone at the slightest gust of the wind.. when you see EVERYTHING as a threat, you tend to treat everything like a threat. If all you have is a hammer you tend to view every problem as a nail. It's a systemic problem with the police force in the US and the way they are trained and armed to the teeth, it encourages a 'shark' mentality. They are supposed to be protecting and serving the PEOPLE.. not protecting and serving THEIR ASS first and corporate interests second.
I think there are some psychopathic, murdering cops out there that get off on the abuse of power and unfortunately the system is set up in a way to protect people like this. It is extremely rare that a cop EVER gets in any serious trouble for killing someone (or raping... or whatever).. even if they were completely unnarmed. It's something like a 1% conviction rate or LESS against cops that have been INDICTED. That's only the cops that have been indicted.. the VAST majority of cases never even go that far.. in the majority of cases they get a 'paid vacation' while the department "investigates itself" and finds it justified. So why wouldn't they take advantage of a system like that, if you are almost sure to get away with it every time. It encourages that corrupt behavior completely and discourages whistleblowers from reporting internal corruption. Half of the problem is based on the fact that cops almost never face serious consequences for breaking the law or murdering someone, they get a free pass. If more cops were held accountable for their actions, the problematic incidents would be few and far between. But as it stands right now... If you want to be a serial killer and get away with it, become a cop. There's probably no better way.
So yeah, all cops aren't bad. But the police state in the US is fucked up and out of control and in need of some major reform. And it's not just their fault.. they are just "doing their job".. just like the Nazi SS were 'just doing their job' enforcing fucked up laws and backwards policies. So yeah, it's a bigger problem then just police. The whole system is fucked up... police are just the thugs protecting that system, and controlled by that system. So, the whole system needs to be reformed, for police to change. But yeah, they don't serve and protect the people anymore, for the most part. I'm talking OVERALL, of course there are going to outliers and exceptions. But the problem is much deeper than just "a few fucked up people", there are fucked up people on both sides of the spectrum.
So yeah, it's great that there are still some good cops out there. But there's a widespread pattern of corruption and abuse that spreads across MANY MANY departments. It is not just an anomaly, it's become more a nationwide norm.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: I don't know what media you're talking about but I get mine just fine.. then again I don't pay attention to mainstream media because it's all biased controlled bullshit for the most part and you should know that. But actually, you are the one bringing it up about the color of the person's skin and everyone would be in an uproar if he was black. People are in an uproar about this too. Like I said, it's not a race issue. It's a police issue. The mainstream media is fucked too but they aren't the ones killing innocent people.
There really is/are both issues at play here. Racism and police brutality. Really there are more, economic, for instance.
I sapose it's worth looking at it as a singularity (racism/police issues) or in connection with other issues, or at it's hight a singularity of connection.
Many of us have resolved issues within ourselves to a degree that allows us to see beyond race/religion/creed/w.e. to be able to respect a human being regardless of superficial pieces (wow that's a weird word to read, is that spelled right?lol)
guess that's what it"s about, eh? Respect.
For blacks tho, (if we're seeing in differences, yadda) it's a race issue for them. Well should be. In the u.s. . In regards to police brutality, of course. And as a way(means) of economic opression. Like that'd be worse, hah. Given history n all. But history doesn't have to be brushed over. It can be healed.
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Sry, i hashtagstole/endthread, cuz that was awesome.
Sry to hear about your friend Shroomism. It's usually hard to lose someone close let alone young :hugsbro:
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: clown133]
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clown133 said: I'm no cop lover but let's break down this situation:
There's a report of a man waving around a gun. As the officer is pulling up to the parking lot, three men are visible. The victim is CLEARLY visible in the video (white shirt, stands out from the other two men). All three men CLEARLY notice the cop car (around 0:10). The victim turns around and starts walking away and the other two stand still, again obviously aware of the police car. So don't give me this bullshit about the victim not being aware of the officer/officers.
The officer approaches the man from behind. Again, this is a man who potentially has a firearm. The officer gives the man a command to get his hands out, which are stuffed down the front of his pants. The victim ignores him. You can argue that he doesn't hear the command the first time; I don't buy it, and here's why. The officer continues to command the victim to get his hands out and the man turns around, sees the officer has his gun drawn and CLEARLY shouts "No fool!" (around 0:34).
This proves a couple things: the victim was aware of the cops and their commands instead of innocently listening to music on his phone/iPod. It also proves that he's a moron for thinking it's OK to disrespect police officers who have their guns drawn and see him as a threat to their safety.
Should the officers have approached the man with guns drawn? No. They should have sought a non-lethal way to end the confrontation. Were the officers justified in their immediate response to subdue the victim? I say yes, undoubtedly. There were 117 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty last year, averages to one every three days. If I'm a cop, I'm not taking any chances. Personally I wouldn't use a firearm, but I wouldn't hesitate to taser that man. I can't see what he's reaching for in his pants, he's aware that I have my gun drawn, and he's made it clear that he is not thinking logically. How can you defend the victim's actions?
The responses in this thread make me wonder if any of you watched the video for details instead of the gore and cop-hate.
you're right, but that STILL doesn't justify drawing your gun and firing, there were plenty of ways to go about this situation. the dude was clearly being an idiot by walking away and not complying with the officers er, demands... however, what would you do if someone pointed a gun at you? you'd probably get a dump of adrenaline in your system eliciting a response from your fight or flight system in your body, prompting you to be much harder to handle as a person...
shit dude, a lot of times i see cops, especially when being pulled over i get a rush of adrenaline. i dont even have to be necessarily doing anything wrong, i see the lights and boom i got the jitters.
i still think the cop is in the wrong here... guns should be an ultimate last response, and i think if cops approached situations in a much more gentile manner i think we would certainly have less cop-involved homicides.
i mean shit, look at these two off duty swiss cops who were in new york on the subway, how they handled the situation talking the suspects down and trying to get them to calm down, which furthers my point...
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
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moonrockmushy said: Nobody deserves to be shot, even that language kinda shows your nature. It is always unfortunate, and sometimes it is justified.
"Nobody deserves to be shot"
Bullshit, plenty of criminal thugs that hurt and murder innocent citizens deserves to be shot. I don't see what's so unfortunate about that fact.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: qman]
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Why shoot them? I bet if we started fucking the terrible criminals in the ass with cacti to death crime rates would drop.
We need cruel and unusual punishments. No one cares about the Constitution or the bill of rights anymore anyways so fuck it. Literally.
Jail is just grown man summer camp, it's such a shitty punishment. It's not even that boring. It's a pretty easy life to fuck off in jail all day and read books.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
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I'm starting to wonder if some of the cops being recruited are psychopaths. Pyschopaths know right from wrong and can pretend to have emotions to others but to them its just a game. Look at the cop, he is checking his pockets for a few minutes, then while his face is in a pool of blood then says "stay with me" , what a faker pretneding he cares.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma] 2
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akira_akuma said: i've not seen the video till now... lol, "hand hands now"
the guy's dying and he's worried telling him proper protocol for a CRIMINAL,... when the guy isn't a criminal.
anyone who thinks this is ok. Die.
die seriously, just die. do die and serve the entire human race in your death.
Everyone should watch that video from beginning to end and see that kid die coated in blood and the cop is more concerned with his own safety. Jesus Christ what is wrong with these cops
"lemme see your hands" as soon as he starts to show his hands he is murdered.
And this has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. This has to do with the complete corruption of what law enforcement is supposed to be about.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: koods]
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akira_akuma said: i've not seen the video till now... lol, "hand hands now"
the guy's dying and he's worried telling him proper protocol for a CRIMINAL,... when the guy isn't a criminal.
anyone who thinks this is ok. Die.
die seriously, just die. do die and serve the entire human race in your death.
Everyone should watch that video from beginning to end and see that kid die coated in blood and the cop is more concerned with his own safety. Jesus Christ what is wrong with these cops
"lemme see your hands" as soon as he starts to show his hands he is murdered.
And this has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. This has to do with the complete corruption of what law enforcement is supposed to be about.
the mother fucker is 20 years old, since when is that a kid, it certainly didnt help the the jackass DID in fact hear and respond to the cop by being a little smart ass... I guess he got what all the middle class white suburbia wannabe hard ass gangsa thugs get
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/dillon-taylor-shooting-justified_n_5912976.html
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21769711 - 06/06/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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20 years old is a fucking kid. Idk what world you live in with mature 20 year old making intelligent decisions but it's sure as fuck not the same place as me.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Psychonautica]
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Psychonautica said: 20 years old is a fucking kid.
no, it's an adult, capable of voting, joining the military and going to prison
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Idk what world you live in with mature 20 year old making intelligent decisions but it's sure as fuck not the same place as me.
so what you're saying is that at 20 years old everyone is stupid and incapable of making decisions on their own
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
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akira_akuma said: i've not seen the video till now... lol, "hand hands now"
the guy's dying and he's worried telling him proper protocol for a CRIMINAL,... when the guy isn't a criminal.
anyone who thinks this is ok. Die.
die seriously, just die. do die and serve the entire human race in your death.
Everyone should watch that video from beginning to end and see that kid die coated in blood and the cop is more concerned with his own safety. Jesus Christ what is wrong with these cops
"lemme see your hands" as soon as he starts to show his hands he is murdered.
And this has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. This has to do with the complete corruption of what law enforcement is supposed to be about.
the mother fucker is 20 years old, since when is that a kid, it certainly didnt help the the jackass DID in fact hear and respond to the cop by being a little smart ass... I guess he got what all the middle class white suburbia wannabe hard ass gangsa thugs get
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/dillon-taylor-shooting-justified_n_5912976.html
I don't care what the prosecutor decided to do. Prosecutors almost never indict cops because they risk loosing cooperation of the police force. It's fucking criminal that salt lake county DA is responsible for prosecuting the salt lake police. It is a massive conflict of interest. The police need to be investigated by an independent agency. Why not indict and let a jury sort it out ?
I watched the video. The cop had the kid in his sights and would have had plenty of time to shoot had he seen a gun. The kid got shot for complying with the cops orders.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
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no, it's an adult, capable of voting, joining the military and going to prison
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Idk what world you live in with mature 20 year old making intelligent decisions but it's sure as fuck not the same place as me.
so what you're saying is that at 20 years old everyone is stupid and incapable of making decisions on their own
But he can't drink a beer. There's 14 year Olds going to prison. There's child soldiers.
What makes doing those things an adult?
Your brain isn't fully developed at twenty. You're literally not capable of making good decisions.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Psychonautica] 1
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How old was the cop? He clearly isn't capable of making good decisions.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: koods]
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koods said: How old was the cop? He clearly isn't capable of making good decisions.
QFT. Giggled a bit.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Psychonautica]
#21769817 - 06/06/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tee hee
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: koods]
#21769836 - 06/06/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the guy's dying and he's worried telling him proper protocol for a CRIMINAL,... when the guy isn't a criminal.
anyone who thinks this is ok. Die.
die seriously, just die. do die and serve the entire human race in your death.
Everyone should watch that video from beginning to end and see that kid die coated in blood and the cop is more concerned with his own safety. Jesus Christ what is wrong with these cops
"lemme see your hands" as soon as he starts to show his hands he is murdered.
And this has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. This has to do with the complete corruption of what law enforcement is supposed to be about.
the mother fucker is 20 years old, since when is that a kid, it certainly didnt help the the jackass DID in fact hear and respond to the cop by being a little smart ass... I guess he got what all the middle class white suburbia wannabe hard ass gangsa thugs get
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/dillon-taylor-shooting-justified_n_5912976.html
I don't care what the prosecutor decided to do. Prosecutors almost never indict cops because they risk loosing cooperation of the police force. It's fucking criminal that salt lake county DA is responsible for prosecuting the salt lake police. It is a massive conflict of interest. The police need to be investigated by an independent agency. Why not indict and let a jury sort it out ?
I watched the video. The cop had the kid in his sights and would have had plenty of time to shoot had he seen a gun. The kid got shot for complying with the cops orders.
isnt that the typical liberal/progressive response "throw away more money"
at what age does one become an adult?
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21769873 - 06/06/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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In my family? Never evidently. My father is still 16 at heart.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Psychonautica]
#21769881 - 06/06/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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no, it's an adult, capable of voting, joining the military and going to prison
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Idk what world you live in with mature 20 year old making intelligent decisions but it's sure as fuck not the same place as me.
so what you're saying is that at 20 years old everyone is stupid and incapable of making decisions on their own
But he can't drink a beer.
lol... who told you that? are you trying to convince us now that underage drinking doesnt exist? it's pretty impressive they way they've completely eradicated all crime simply by making it illegal
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and what exactly would they be going to prison for, I mean if all 'kids' are as stupid as dillon taylor then how did they manage to live to see a prison
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are they in the US? did they volunteer?
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What makes doing those things an adult?
i guess at 47 I must still be a kid as well, the world is full of kids as old as 104
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Your brain isn't fully developed at twenty. You're literally not capable of making good decisions.
so you are saying that all 20 year olds need guidance, maybe if dillon taylor needed a government appointed guardian to dictate ever move he made, maybe it's what all the 20 year olds need because you're saying they're still brainless but since we know that the brain magically develops on the 21st birthday that would mean that no one over the age of 21 should ever commit a crime or make a bad decision... unless you're alluding to no one has a fully formed brain throughout their lifetime... maybe we all need a state appointed guardian
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21769896 - 06/06/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Blame the victim for the timidity of the cop.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: koods]
#21769924 - 06/06/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The brain is actually fully developed at 25 not 21.
Why does drinking booze and voting make you an adult.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: koods]
#21769944 - 06/06/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Blame the victim for the timidity of the cop. 
you're blaming the cop for the stupidity of the deceased retard
it was the 'victim' that chose his actions, those actions resulted in his death
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Psychonautica] 1
#21769949 - 06/06/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does it really matter? He didn't have a gun and he was complying with "lemme see your hands" fucking cop is a pussy who has probably shot his own shadow before.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: koods]
#21769956 - 06/06/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Does it really matter? He didn't have a gun and he was complying with "lemme see your hands" fucking cop is a pussy who has probably shot his own shadow before.
false. he wasnt compliant
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21770025 - 06/06/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see, so "resisting arrest", a crime that is already punishable is now a crime that we can punish by immediate and instant execution? good one pris
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: 404] 1
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you're free to interpret that any way you wish, dude brought the shit on himself
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: 404]
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404 said: I see, so "resisting arrest", a crime that is already punishable is now a crime that we can punish by immediate and instant execution? good one pris
This is cruel and unusual punishment. Clearly a violation of the bill of rights and UN declaration of human rights.
Edited by CaptainKurt (06/06/15 01:52 PM)
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21770306 - 06/06/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sure he did, but i still maintain my previous point that people under the influence of their fight or flight response may very well not be thinking logically enough due to the changes in brain chemistry under stressful situations like the one this dude found himself in. coming at him with gun drawn and pointed at him surely didnt help ease the situation. Still no reason to shoot him.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: 404]
#21770313 - 06/06/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The guy didn't even have a gun! Regardless of what he did, he was no immediate threat to the officer.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
#21770339 - 06/06/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No, there was definitley the possibility that he was armed given the call they recieved - there was just no reason to approach the situation gun drawn like that
Maybe police forces should abide by typical ROE like the ones here:
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21770501 - 06/06/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: 20 years old is a fucking kid.
no, it's an adult, capable of voting, joining the military and going to prison
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Idk what world you live in with mature 20 year old making intelligent decisions but it's sure as fuck not the same place as me.
so what you're saying is that at 20 years old everyone is stupid and incapable of making decisions on their own
20years old is still a kid, you joker. plus he made no intrinsically dangerous decisions... just some mistaken ones. but he was a danger so... all your excuses will NEVER WORK. unless you're talking to Fee or some shit.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21770516 - 06/06/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Blame the victim for the timidity of the cop. 
you're blaming the cop for the stupidity of the deceased retard
it was the 'victim' that chose his actions, those actions resulted in his death
LOL
it's funny how people can spin things to suit their twisted world views.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: qman] 1
#21770537 - 06/06/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Nobody deserves to be shot, even that language kinda shows your nature. It is always unfortunate, and sometimes it is justified.
"Nobody deserves to be shot"
Bullshit, plenty of criminal thugs that hurt and murder innocent citizens deserves to be shot. I don't see what's so unfortunate about that fact.
Even if this is the case, which is controversial, that is not the job of police. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of being ruled by a mob of thugs, which happens in alot of countries and innocent people suffer greatly. There is a reason why we have a justice system, and a reason why the death penalty is weighed so heavily. To try and apply the same logic to a police shooting shows that you don't respect the constitution or US law.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
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moonrockmushy said: = Even if this is the case, which is controversial, that is not the job of police. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of being ruled by a mob of thugs, which happens in alot of countries and innocent people suffer greatly. There is a reason why we have a justice system, and a reason why the death penalty is weighed so heavily. To try and apply the same logic to a police shooting shows that you don't respect the constitution or US law.
Exactly.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: CaptainKurt]
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Here's another one for the fuck the police crowd.
Family Raided by SWAT and their Dog Shot, for Being Unable to Pay Utility Bill
http://http://thefreethoughtproject.com/family-raided-swat-dog-shot-unable-pay-utility-bill/
Zorich was at home with several family members and her pit bull, Kiya, when a St. Louis County Police Tactical Response Unit burst through the door without knocking, according to her suit. The unit had at least five officers with M-4 rifles, supported by at least eight uniformed officers.
The officers entered so quickly, Zorich’s suit alleges, that Kiya didn’t even have time to bark. A tactical officer fired three shots into the dog, and the dog’s “bladder and bowels released and she fell to the floor.” The dog “was laying on the floor in her own waste and blood struggling to breathe. She had a gaping hole in her chest.”
Zorich claims the officers kept trying to talk to her about the natural gas, but she was focused on her dog, whom she’d raised as a puppy and who (she says) had “never shown agression to any person.”
At one point in the raid, Zorich alleges, an officer pointed his firearm at her son’s head and said “One word, motherfucker, and I’ll put three in you.”
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: CaptainKurt] 1
#21770682 - 06/06/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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404 said: I see, so "resisting arrest", a crime that is already punishable is now a crime that we can punish by immediate and instant execution? good one pris
This is cruel and unusual punishment. Clearly a violation of the bill of rights and UN declaration of human rights.
it's neither cruel nor unusual, it seemed a pretty humane way to put him down and if you search this forum you'll discover this is apparently very common
exactly which of the rights in the BoR has this violated and maybe afterward you'll tell us exactly how the UN's Declaration of Human Rights has any sort of power over anything, how exactly would one be penalized for violating this
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: chopstick] 1
#21770693 - 06/06/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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chopstick said: Here's another one for the fuck the police crowd.
Family Raided by SWAT and their Dog Shot, for Being Unable to Pay Utility Bill
http://http://thefreethoughtproject.com/family-raided-swat-dog-shot-unable-pay-utility-bill/
Zorich was at home with several family members and her pit bull, Kiya, when a St. Louis County Police Tactical Response Unit burst through the door without knocking, according to her suit. The unit had at least five officers with M-4 rifles, supported by at least eight uniformed officers.
The officers entered so quickly, Zorich’s suit alleges, that Kiya didn’t even have time to bark. A tactical officer fired three shots into the dog, and the dog’s “bladder and bowels released and she fell to the floor.” The dog “was laying on the floor in her own waste and blood struggling to breathe. She had a gaping hole in her chest.”
Zorich claims the officers kept trying to talk to her about the natural gas, but she was focused on her dog, whom she’d raised as a puppy and who (she says) had “never shown agression to any person.”
At one point in the raid, Zorich alleges, an officer pointed his firearm at her son’s head and said “One word, motherfucker, and I’ll put three in you.”
wow... and you guys want to call this a source of information
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#21770717 - 06/06/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: 20 years old is a fucking kid.
no, it's an adult, capable of voting, joining the military and going to prison
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Idk what world you live in with mature 20 year old making intelligent decisions but it's sure as fuck not the same place as me.
so what you're saying is that at 20 years old everyone is stupid and incapable of making decisions on their own
20years old is still a kid, you joker. plus he made no intrinsically dangerous decisions... just some mistaken ones. but he was a danger so... all your excuses will NEVER WORK. unless you're talking to Fee or some shit.
ok, so we accept that 20 is still a kid, raise the age for everything to 21+ and ban everyone under 21 from the board... been nice knowing you guys
ask fee about the first time he came to my house, he was with me and he still almost got his ass shot and buried under the house
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21770744 - 06/06/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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well, that coming toward your house might be cause for concern, like ready aim fire, oh wait... it's just fee.
and i am saying that 20 is still an extremely childish age, and i don't see 20 year old's EVER being adult about anything. even with your mature 20 something's it's still not a complete shift into adulthood.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
#21770779 - 06/06/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: well, that coming toward your house might be cause for concern, like ready aim fire, oh wait... it's just fee.
the reason he wasnt shot was because I was with him, so he was then accepted as being less of a threat
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i am saying that 20 is still an extremely childish age, and i don't see 20 year old's EVER being adult about anything. even with your mature 20 something's it's still not a complete shift into adulthood.
wow, you guys must hang out with a lot of retarded little shits because most 20 year olds are capable of making decisions, they know the consequences of their actions and let that temper their judgement. but hey, I wont stop you from hanging out with retards
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21770813 - 06/06/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey, whoa there sonny jim... i've known only a few friends, in my 20's, and they were all responsible and tempered with their judgements (save irresponsible drug use, but never took that shit to the streets, at least) so, you have nothing there.
i am talking about people, generally, whom i see outside of my circle, and those whom i've just seen around, and not to mention, those here on this forum, whom are somewhat responsible, but also somewhat childish.
in fact, even people in their late 30's 40's, can still potentially hold very childish notions. i'm sure even you do, like for example... your swift delineating of my decisions, even though well you don't know my decisions. you think you know, but... you don't. see: childish.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21770825 - 06/06/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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chopstick said: Here's another one for the fuck the police crowd.
Family Raided by SWAT and their Dog Shot, for Being Unable to Pay Utility Bill
http://http://thefreethoughtproject.com/family-raided-swat-dog-shot-unable-pay-utility-bill/
Zorich was at home with several family members and her pit bull, Kiya, when a St. Louis County Police Tactical Response Unit burst through the door without knocking, according to her suit. The unit had at least five officers with M-4 rifles, supported by at least eight uniformed officers.
The officers entered so quickly, Zorich’s suit alleges, that Kiya didn’t even have time to bark. A tactical officer fired three shots into the dog, and the dog’s “bladder and bowels released and she fell to the floor.” The dog “was laying on the floor in her own waste and blood struggling to breathe. She had a gaping hole in her chest.”
Zorich claims the officers kept trying to talk to her about the natural gas, but she was focused on her dog, whom she’d raised as a puppy and who (she says) had “never shown agression to any person.”
At one point in the raid, Zorich alleges, an officer pointed his firearm at her son’s head and said “One word, motherfucker, and I’ll put three in you.”
wow... and you guys want to call this a source of information
I trust her word over the cop's... raiding someone's house and killing their dog over an unpaid gas bill, now that's just plain despicable.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
#21771031 - 06/06/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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And you know what's funny? I seen this video on facebook. And I didn't see a single black person commenting on it. IF this guy was black, the whole entire community would be in an uproar. Wouldn't you agree?
when is the white community ever in uproar about a black man being killed in situations like these?
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: theRAPeutic] 1
#21771093 - 06/06/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If it had been a negro, which you are not, there would have been major news coverage, riots, burning and looting, the whole bit. Obumble might have made another stupid speech, jesse jackass and al sharptop would have come in like flies on shit. But since its merely a white guy who did nothing violent to deserve being shot, its like no big deal.
If it had been a negro most of the shroomery would be outraged.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Stonehenge] 1
#21771164 - 06/06/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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had he been black everyone would be calling him a thug, saying that he deserved it since he didnt comply, and trying to find some past history that could be used to justify the killing by demonizing him
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Stonehenge] 1
#21771171 - 06/06/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: If it had been a negro, which you are not, there would have been major news coverage, riots, burning and looting, the whole bit. Obumble might have made another stupid speech, jesse jackass and al sharptop would have come in like flies on shit. But since its merely a white guy who did nothing violent to deserve being shot, its like no big deal.
If it had been a negro most of the shroomery would be outraged.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: theRAPeutic]
#21771176 - 06/06/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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theRAPeutic said: had he been black everyone would be calling him a thug, saying that he deserved it since he didnt comply, and trying to find some past history that could be used to justify the killing by demonizing him
Check the thread, they're still saying it. This isn't about the race of the victim, it's about the occupation of the killer.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: koods]
#21771343 - 06/06/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: If it had been a negro, which you are not, there would have been major news coverage, riots, burning and looting, the whole bit. Obumble might have made another stupid speech, jesse jackass and al sharptop would have come in like flies on shit. But since its merely a white guy who did nothing violent to deserve being shot, its like no big deal.
If it had been a negro most of the shroomery would be outraged.
You are an incoherent racist
You are a coherent racist
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
#21771406 - 06/06/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Why do you people insist on turning this into a race issue? You're just as bad as the people you are complaining about.
The problem is with the police. It's not a fucking black or white issue. Most are equally enraged about this than any other unjustified murder of unarmed innocent people, who gives a fuck what color their skin is. Oh thats right, racists.
In all fairness it's been a race issue for a while, hence the motto black lives matter.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Magicman69]
#21771872 - 06/06/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just because someone is anti-racist it doesn't make them racist, and no, not every policy or group that targets or attempts to solve a specific racial issue need a corresponding policy/group for every conceivable race to be considered not racist.
Again, anti-racism must adknowledge racism, and could be somewhat racist if the person preaching it is confused about what racism actually is, but not always, and it is a worthy cause even if it confuses and makes people uncomfortable.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21772283 - 06/06/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21772291 - 06/06/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21772310 - 06/06/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes, it does actually
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Again, anti-racism must adknowledge racism, and could be somewhat racist if the person preaching it is confused about what racism actually is, but not always, and it is a worthy cause even if it confuses and makes people uncomfortable.
anti-racism is nothing more than veiled racism and the chance to marginalize someone of the 'majority' who has also suffered race based discrimination, dont fool yourself into believing it's anything but
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21772361 - 06/06/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Race is not a valid way to measure people, but obviously there are people who feel like it is.
It would be one thing if it were always people trying to say that because they are minority they deserve special treatment bringing up race. I would agree with you, but all too often it is those who believe in superiority of their own race that bring up race.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21772405 - 06/06/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: It would be one thing if it were always people trying to say that because they are minority they deserve special treatment bringing up race.
are you saying that this isnt the case?
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I would agree with you, but all too often it is those who believe in superiority of their own race that bring up race.
yes, it also works this way too
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21772517 - 06/06/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I guess that is always the case in some sense, what it comes down to is that I have seen lots of unjustified prejudice in America, both on a social and institutional level. It just isn't true that everyone who speaks up against racism is racist themselves. The history of racism in America is pretty clear, the reasons behind it are well understood, and I think there is a clear path to take in ending racism (it's education if you're wondering).
What happened isn't that people were always racist and white people played the racism game the best and won, and now the game is over. Racism was instituted from the top down as a means to control people and the legacy of that continues today. The techniques have changed, but they still control the media which explains why rather than actually doing something about it, people fight amongst themselves as if race were a real thing.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21772550 - 06/07/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I guess that is always the case in some sense, what it comes down to is that I have seen lots of unjustified prejudice in America, both on a social and institutional level.
who are you to marginalize what others feel, to say that this prejudice isnt justified
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It just isn't true that everyone who speaks up against racism is racist themselves. The history of racism in America is pretty clear, the reasons behind it are well understood, and I think there is a clear path to take in ending racism (it's education if you're wondering).
the history and the present of racism is far from clear, racism against whites is trivialized, they're marginalized just as male rape victims are, you're just as much a part of the problem of racism as the racists because here you are trying to make a change in others, to make them comply with your own wishes
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What happened isn't that people were always racist and white people played the racism game the best and won, and now the game is over. Racism was instituted from the top down as a means to control people and the legacy of that continues today. The techniques have changed, but they still control the media which explains why rather than actually doing something about it, people fight amongst themselves as if race were a real thing.
tell us again how you're not a racist
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21773167 - 06/07/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Nobody deserves to be shot, even that language kinda shows your nature. It is always unfortunate, and sometimes it is justified.
"Nobody deserves to be shot"
Bullshit, plenty of criminal thugs that hurt and murder innocent citizens deserves to be shot. I don't see what's so unfortunate about that fact.
Even if this is the case, which is controversial, that is not the job of police. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of being ruled by a mob of thugs, which happens in alot of countries and innocent people suffer greatly. There is a reason why we have a justice system, and a reason why the death penalty is weighed so heavily. To try and apply the same logic to a police shooting shows that you don't respect the constitution or US law.
I never said it was the job of a cop to serve justice and punishment for a potential crime. You said "nobody deserves to be shot", and I said if someone is hurting innocent people and they get shot it's NOT unfortunate.
Michael Brown tried to kill a cop and got shot in the process, that's not unfortunate at all, now we have one less violent thug in the world.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: qman]
#21773458 - 06/07/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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tell us again how you're not a racist
tell us how what he said applies to his own actions.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
#21773569 - 06/07/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can't possibly see how anyone could truly believe that this "kid" deserved to die 
wtf man.
shits fucked.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#21773623 - 06/07/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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everyone was freed from the tyranny of that potential young punk. ... right guys?
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
#21773647 - 06/07/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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In the officers defense, I clearly heard him state "stay with me" repeatedly.. Imo this was a direct order. He clearly disobeyed that order. If he would of only complied, this wouldn't have resulted in this tragic death.
In other words, when shot by a cop. FOLLOW his orders not to die. No sympathy here
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: billy jowl]
#21773703 - 06/07/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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cops aren't judge jury and executioner.
you're fucked in your little head.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#21773724 - 06/07/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: I can't possibly see how anyone could truly believe that this "kid" deserved to die 
who said the MAN deserved to die, not a fucking soul, what we said, I know I have, is that it his own actions that led to his death
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
#21773742 - 06/07/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: cops aren't judge jury and executioner.
you're fucked in your little head.
Sarcasm may be difficult to convey on the internet, but it's obvious in that post. You may wanna focus on measuring your head.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21773745 - 06/07/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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no, it wasn't. it was the cops. the man didn't do anything. he literally died for nothing.
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akira_akuma said: cops aren't judge jury and executioner.
you're fucked in your little head.
Sarcasm may be difficult to convey on the internet, but it's obvious in that post. You may wanna focus on measuring your head.

STFU. it wasn't obvious, it's the same crap other people are saying.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
#21773765 - 06/07/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Like I said check yo head  It was blatantly obvious it was sarcasm.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: billy jowl]
#21773777 - 06/07/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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no, it wasn't at all. it was the same BS people are posting seriously. exactly the same. i don't care if it was sarcasm... if it was, great... i'm over it. you should know that if sarcasm isn't well translated on the internet, and if you know your post is hard to decipher in it's sarcasm, or if i'm telling you it's exactly the same shit people are saying seriously (read the thread. why would i lie?) that it's maybe not so easy to see the sarcasm... for MULTIPLE REASONS.
FUCK ... OFF.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
#21773793 - 06/07/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Look you sad over emotional little man. The man was clearly fatally shot, who in there right mind would believe a cop saying stay with me could possibly effect the outcome. Take your meds, and drop it.
Edit :Oh and anytime Ive told someone to "fuck off" I got banned. So be careful.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
#21773795 - 06/07/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: no, it wasn't. it was the cops. the man didn't do anything. he literally died for nothing.
really? did he stay put when he saw the cops pulling up to him and his friends? it seems his brother didnt try and evade the cops but he did, it would seem that walking away is in fact an action. did he immediately stop when the cop was yelling at him or did he ignore the cop and keep walking, again, these are in fact actions. didnt he essentially tell the cop to fuck off while the cop was yelling commands at him, why once again, we see actions on his part and when he finally decided to change his actions and stop, did he comply with the commands of the cop and keep his hands visible, why no and the cumulative actions on his part are what resulted in him getting shot
so now you can sit there and piss and moan about how this just wasnt right and you can blame all the people you want and even keep walking around with your blinders on but it's not going to do a damn thing to change this or any other situation you feel is unjust so here's an idea, I've offered it up before but none of you guys seem to want to accept the challenge, why dont you go and train the cops on how not to fucking shoot people
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: billy jowl]
#21773842 - 06/07/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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billy jowl said: Look you sad over emotional little man. The man was clearly fatally shot, who in there right mind would believe a cop saying stay with me could possibly effect the outcome. Take your meds, and drop it.
here now stfu.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
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akira_akuma said: no, it wasn't. it was the cops. the man didn't do anything. he literally died for nothing.
really? did he stay put when he saw the cops pulling up to him and his friends? it seems his brother didnt try and evade the cops but he did, it would seem that walking away is in fact an action. did he immediately stop when the cop was yelling at him or did he ignore the cop and keep walking, again, these are in fact actions. didnt he essentially tell the cop to fuck off while the cop was yelling commands at him, why once again, we see actions on his part and when he finally decided to change his actions and stop, did he comply with the commands of the cop and keep his hands visible, why no and the cumulative actions on his part are what resulted in him getting shot
so now you can sit there and piss and moan about how this just wasnt right and you can blame all the people you want and even keep walking around with your blinders on but it's not going to do a damn thing to change this or any other situation you feel is unjust so here's an idea, I've offered it up before but none of you guys seem to want to accept the challenge, why dont you go and train the cops on how not to fucking shoot people
that's your answer for everything. why don't you do it yourself, and do it better?
but i don't give a fuck about the kid... i care about you robotroid's who can't see the cop is also as dumb as the kid was, was also dumb and a fucking idiot, that's all i care about; and YOU need to do that better because it's absolute bullshit, your opinion, in this case.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
#21773871 - 06/07/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: no, it wasn't. it was the cops. the man didn't do anything. he literally died for nothing.
really? did he stay put when he saw the cops pulling up to him and his friends? it seems his brother didnt try and evade the cops but he did, it would seem that walking away is in fact an action. did he immediately stop when the cop was yelling at him or did he ignore the cop and keep walking, again, these are in fact actions. didnt he essentially tell the cop to fuck off while the cop was yelling commands at him, why once again, we see actions on his part and when he finally decided to change his actions and stop, did he comply with the commands of the cop and keep his hands visible, why no and the cumulative actions on his part are what resulted in him getting shot
so now you can sit there and piss and moan about how this just wasnt right and you can blame all the people you want and even keep walking around with your blinders on but it's not going to do a damn thing to change this or any other situation you feel is unjust so here's an idea, I've offered it up before but none of you guys seem to want to accept the challenge, why dont you go and train the cops on how not to fucking shoot people
that's your answer for everything. why don't you do it yourself, and do it better?
am I the one sitting here bitching about how some retard got his ass shot? why do I care if the cops are shooting stupid people, I'm hoping they'll get rid of many, many more
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but i don't give a fuck about the kid... i care about you robotroid's who can't see the cop is also as dumb as the kid was, was also dumb and a fucking idiot. that's all i care about; and YOU need to do that better because it's absolute bullshit, your opinion, in this case.
well isnt that quite the presumption, to pretend you even have a clue about my views on the cops actions, it seems to be the one thing the anti cop crowd always fails to ask, what are our views on these shootings regarding the cop and the dead guy
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21773920 - 06/07/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm hoping they'll get rid of many, many more
then get rid of the cop then too, he's a stupid fucking idiot.
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well isnt that quite the presumption, to pretend you even have a clue about my views on the cops actions, it seems to be the one thing the anti cop crowd always fails to ask, what are our views on these shootings regarding the cop and the dead guy
i am not anti-cop. i think i know your view here. correct me if i'm fucking wrong; you have the opportunity to really put the shit smear to a crawl. isn't your view that because of "cumulative actions" of the kid the cop was righteous in shooting him dead for directly following his command to raise his hands?
because of his "cumulative actions", it's ok now that the cop directly fired upon him for following his commands?
let me shoot a quick scenario to you: he didn't know about the call to the cops. he by all rights, could have not wanted to deal with any questioning so bounced, and he didn't do anything wrong by that: but he didn't know, as he was walking away, that the cop had a gun trained on him: he turned to say "no, fool" and then realized he was the suspect of a crime, even if it was erroneous on the cops part, and he THEN TOOK HIS HANDS OUT OF POCKET TO RAISE THEM: then he was shot, for FOLLOWING THE ORDER YOU SAID (AND THE COP SAID) THAT HE SHOULD FOLLOW?
so if he did that, he isn't an idiot for doing THAT... but he's an idiot for trying to avoid the cops because he wasn't doing anything WRONG and didn't want to deal with them, even though that's completely sensible and legal because you DON'T WANT TROUBLE, which the cops consistently give to INNOCENT PEOPLE.
your hindsight is fucking BULLSHIT, along with the cops... but the kid... he actually tried to raise his hands, like he was told, and got shot, while he was innocent.
you will never win, because your logic is irrefutably bullshit, in this case anyway. because you're not looking at all the facts. you want to live in your fairy tale fucking ideal paradigm of "less idiots, the better", while ignoring the idiots you'd like to defend. you are NO better than anyone else... you're just the same... a panderer.
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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#21774579 - 06/07/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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His own actions? You mean not having a weapon? Minding his own business? Standing in the path of a bullet fired by a trigger happy cop?
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