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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #21771164 - 06/06/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

had he been black everyone would be calling him a thug, saying that he deserved it since he didnt comply, and trying to find some past history that could be used to justify the killing by demonizing him


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #21771171 - 06/06/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
If it had been a negro, which you are not, there would have been major news coverage, riots, burning and looting, the whole bit. Obumble might have made another stupid speech, jesse jackass and al sharptop would have come in like flies on shit. But since its merely a white guy who did nothing violent to deserve being shot, its like no big deal.

If it had been a negro most of the shroomery would be outraged.




You are an incoherent racist


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #21771176 - 06/06/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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theRAPeutic said:
had he been black everyone would be calling him a thug, saying that he deserved it since he didnt comply, and trying to find some past history that could be used to justify the killing by demonizing him




Check the thread, they're still saying it. This isn't about the race of the victim, it's about the occupation of the killer.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: koods]
    #21771343 - 06/06/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
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Stonehenge said:
If it had been a negro, which you are not, there would have been major news coverage, riots, burning and looting, the whole bit. Obumble might have made another stupid speech, jesse jackass and al sharptop would have come in like flies on shit. But since its merely a white guy who did nothing violent to deserve being shot, its like no big deal.

If it had been a negro most of the shroomery would be outraged.




You are an incoherent racist




You are a coherent racist


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Shroomism]
    #21771406 - 06/06/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Why do you people insist on turning this into a race issue? You're just as bad as the people you are complaining about.

The problem is with the police. It's not a fucking black or white issue.
Most are equally enraged about this than any other unjustified murder of unarmed innocent people, who gives a fuck what color their skin is. Oh thats right, racists.



In all fairness it's been a race issue for a while, hence the motto black lives matter.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Magicman69]
    #21771872 - 06/06/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just because someone is anti-racist it doesn't make them racist, and no, not every policy or group that targets or attempts to solve a specific racial issue need a corresponding policy/group for every conceivable race to be considered not racist.

Again, anti-racism must adknowledge racism, and could be somewhat racist if the person preaching it is confused about what racism actually is, but not always, and it is a worthy cause even if it confuses and makes people uncomfortable.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21772283 - 06/06/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I will follow these stories until the end.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21772291 - 06/06/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Take guns from cops.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21772310 - 06/06/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
Just because someone is anti-racist it doesn't make them racist




yes, it does actually


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Again, anti-racism must adknowledge racism, and could be somewhat racist if the person preaching it is confused about what racism actually is, but not always, and it is a worthy cause even if it confuses and makes people uncomfortable.






anti-racism is nothing more than veiled racism and the chance to marginalize
someone of the 'majority' who has also suffered race based discrimination,
dont fool yourself into believing it's anything but


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21772361 - 06/06/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Race is not a valid way to measure people, but obviously there are people who feel like it is. 

It would be one thing if it were always people trying to say that because they are minority they deserve special treatment bringing up race.  I would agree with you, but all too often it is those who believe in superiority of their own race that bring up race.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21772405 - 06/06/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It would be one thing if it were always people trying to say that because they are minority they deserve special treatment bringing up race.




are you saying that this isnt the case?

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I would agree with you, but all too often it is those who believe in superiority of their own race that bring up race.





yes, it also works this way too


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21772517 - 06/06/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I guess that is always the case in some sense, what it comes down to is that I have seen lots of unjustified prejudice in America, both on a social and institutional level.  It just isn't true that everyone who speaks up against racism is racist themselves.  The history of racism in America is pretty clear, the reasons behind it are well understood, and I think there is a clear path to take in ending racism (it's education if you're wondering).

What happened isn't that people were always racist and white people played the racism game the best and won, and now the game is over.  Racism was instituted from the top down as a means to control people and the legacy of that continues today.  The techniques have changed, but they still control the media which explains why rather than actually doing something about it, people fight amongst themselves as if race were a real thing.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21772550 - 06/07/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
I guess that is always the case in some sense, what it comes down to is that I have seen lots of unjustified prejudice in America, both on a social and institutional level.




who are you to marginalize what others feel, to say that this prejudice isnt justified

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It just isn't true that everyone who speaks up against racism is racist themselves.  The history of racism in America is pretty clear, the reasons behind it are well understood, and I think there is a clear path to take in ending racism (it's education if you're wondering).





the history and the present of racism is far from clear, racism against whites
is trivialized, they're marginalized just as male rape victims are, you're just
as much a part of the problem of racism as the racists because here you are
trying to make a change in others, to make them comply with your own wishes

Quote:

What happened isn't that people were always racist and white people played the racism game the best and won, and now the game is over.  Racism was instituted from the top down as a means to control people and the legacy of that continues today.  The techniques have changed, but they still control the media which explains why rather than actually doing something about it, people fight amongst themselves as if race were a real thing.





tell us again how you're not a racist


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21773167 - 06/07/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
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qman said:
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moonrockmushy said:
Nobody deserves to be shot, even that language kinda shows your nature.  It is always unfortunate, and sometimes it is justified.




"Nobody deserves to be shot"

Bullshit, plenty of criminal thugs that hurt and murder innocent citizens deserves to be shot. I don't see what's so unfortunate about that fact.




Even if this is the case, which is controversial, that is not the job of police.  What you are suggesting is the equivalent of being ruled by a mob of thugs, which happens in alot of countries and innocent people suffer greatly.  There is a reason why we have a justice system, and a reason why the death penalty is weighed so heavily.  To try and apply the same logic to a police shooting shows that you don't respect the constitution or US law.




I never said it was the job of a cop to serve justice and punishment for a potential crime. You said "nobody deserves to be shot", and I said if someone is hurting innocent people and they get shot it's NOT unfortunate.

Michael Brown tried to kill a cop and got shot in the process, that's not unfortunate at all, now we have one less violent thug in the world.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: qman]
    #21773458 - 06/07/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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tell us again how you're not a racist




tell us how what he said applies to his own actions.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21773569 - 06/07/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can't possibly see how anyone could truly believe that this "kid" deserved to die :facepalm:



wtf man.


shits fucked.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21773623 - 06/07/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

everyone was freed from the tyranny of that potential young punk. ... right guys?


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21773647 - 06/07/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

In the officers defense, I clearly heard him state "stay with me" repeatedly..
Imo this was a direct order. He clearly disobeyed that order. If he would of only complied, this wouldn't have resulted in this tragic death.

In other words, when shot by a cop. FOLLOW his orders not to die.
No sympathy here:facepalm:


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: billy jowl]
    #21773703 - 06/07/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

cops aren't judge jury and executioner.

you're fucked in your little head.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21773724 - 06/07/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I can't possibly see how anyone could truly believe that this "kid" deserved to die :facepalm:







who said the MAN deserved to die, not a fucking soul, what we said, I know I
have, is that it his own actions that led to his death


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