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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21770025 - 06/06/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I see, so "resisting arrest", a crime that is already punishable is now a crime that we can punish by immediate and instant execution? good one pris


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: 404] * 1
    #21770049 - 06/06/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you're free to interpret that any way you wish, dude brought the shit on himself


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: 404]
    #21770128 - 06/06/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I see, so "resisting arrest", a crime that is already punishable is now a crime that we can punish by immediate and instant execution? good one pris




This is cruel and unusual punishment. Clearly a violation of the bill of rights and UN declaration of human rights.


Edited by CaptainKurt (06/06/15 01:52 PM)


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21770306 - 06/06/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

sure he did, but i still maintain my previous point that people under the influence of their fight or flight response may very well not be thinking logically enough due to the changes in brain chemistry under stressful situations like the one this dude found himself in. coming at him with gun drawn and pointed at him surely didnt help ease the situation. Still no reason to shoot him.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: 404]
    #21770313 - 06/06/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The guy didn't even have a gun! Regardless of what he did, he was no immediate threat to the officer.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
    #21770339 - 06/06/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No, there was definitley the possibility that he was armed given the call they recieved - there was just no reason to approach the situation gun drawn like that


Maybe police forces should abide by typical ROE like the ones here:



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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21770501 - 06/06/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Psychonautica said:
20 years old is a fucking kid.




no, it's an adult, capable of voting, joining the military and going to prison

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Idk what world you live in with mature 20 year old making intelligent decisions but it's sure as fuck not the same place as me.




so what you're saying is that at 20 years old everyone is stupid and incapable of
making decisions on their own



:lol: 20years old is still a kid, you joker. plus he made no intrinsically dangerous decisions... just some mistaken ones.  but he was a danger so... all your excuses will NEVER WORK. unless you're talking to Fee or some shit.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21770516 - 06/06/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
Blame the victim for the timidity of the cop. :rolleyes:






you're blaming the cop for the stupidity of the deceased retard

it was the 'victim' that chose his actions, those actions resulted in his death



LOL

it's funny how people can spin things to suit their twisted world views.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: qman] * 1
    #21770537 - 06/06/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Nobody deserves to be shot, even that language kinda shows your nature.  It is always unfortunate, and sometimes it is justified.




"Nobody deserves to be shot"

Bullshit, plenty of criminal thugs that hurt and murder innocent citizens deserves to be shot. I don't see what's so unfortunate about that fact.




Even if this is the case, which is controversial, that is not the job of police.  What you are suggesting is the equivalent of being ruled by a mob of thugs, which happens in alot of countries and innocent people suffer greatly.  There is a reason why we have a justice system, and a reason why the death penalty is weighed so heavily.  To try and apply the same logic to a police shooting shows that you don't respect the constitution or US law.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21770565 - 06/06/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Even if this is the case, which is controversial, that is not the job of police.  What you are suggesting is the equivalent of being ruled by a mob of thugs, which happens in alot of countries and innocent people suffer greatly.  There is a reason why we have a justice system, and a reason why the death penalty is weighed so heavily.  To try and apply the same logic to a police shooting shows that you don't respect the constitution or US law.




Exactly.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: CaptainKurt]
    #21770603 - 06/06/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Here's another one for the fuck the police crowd.

Family Raided by SWAT and their Dog Shot, for Being Unable to Pay Utility Bill

http://http://thefreethoughtproject.com/family-raided-swat-dog-shot-unable-pay-utility-bill/

Zorich was at home with several family members and her pit bull, Kiya, when a St. Louis County Police Tactical Response Unit burst through the door without knocking, according to her suit. The unit had at least five officers with M-4 rifles, supported by at least eight uniformed officers.

The officers entered so quickly, Zorich’s suit alleges, that Kiya didn’t even have time to bark. A tactical officer fired three shots into the dog, and the dog’s “bladder and bowels released and she fell to the floor.” The dog “was laying on the floor in her own waste and blood struggling to breathe. She had a gaping hole in her chest.”

Zorich claims the officers kept trying to talk to her about the natural gas, but she was focused on her dog, whom she’d raised as a puppy and who (she says) had “never shown agression to any person.”

At one point in the raid, Zorich alleges, an officer pointed his firearm at her son’s head and said “One word, motherfucker, and I’ll put three in you.”


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: CaptainKurt] * 1
    #21770682 - 06/06/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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404 said:
I see, so "resisting arrest", a crime that is already punishable is now a crime that we can punish by immediate and instant execution? good one pris




This is cruel and unusual punishment. Clearly a violation of the bill of rights and UN declaration of human rights.




it's neither cruel nor unusual, it seemed a pretty humane way to put him down and
if you search this forum you'll discover this is apparently very common

exactly which of the rights in the BoR has this violated and maybe afterward
you'll tell us exactly how the UN's Declaration of Human Rights has any sort of
power over anything, how exactly would one be penalized for violating this


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: chopstick] * 1
    #21770693 - 06/06/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Here's another one for the fuck the police crowd.

Family Raided by SWAT and their Dog Shot, for Being Unable to Pay Utility Bill

http://http://thefreethoughtproject.com/family-raided-swat-dog-shot-unable-pay-utility-bill/

Zorich was at home with several family members and her pit bull, Kiya, when a St. Louis County Police Tactical Response Unit burst through the door without knocking, according to her suit. The unit had at least five officers with M-4 rifles, supported by at least eight uniformed officers.

The officers entered so quickly, Zorich’s suit alleges, that Kiya didn’t even have time to bark. A tactical officer fired three shots into the dog, and the dog’s “bladder and bowels released and she fell to the floor.” The dog “was laying on the floor in her own waste and blood struggling to breathe. She had a gaping hole in her chest.”

Zorich claims the officers kept trying to talk to her about the natural gas, but she was focused on her dog, whom she’d raised as a puppy and who (she says) had “never shown agression to any person.”

At one point in the raid, Zorich alleges, an officer pointed his firearm at her son’s head and said “One word, motherfucker, and I’ll put three in you.”





wow... and you guys want to call this a source of information


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #21770717 - 06/06/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Psychonautica said:
20 years old is a fucking kid.




no, it's an adult, capable of voting, joining the military and going to prison

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Idk what world you live in with mature 20 year old making intelligent decisions but it's sure as fuck not the same place as me.




so what you're saying is that at 20 years old everyone is stupid and incapable of
making decisions on their own



:lol: 20years old is still a kid, you joker. plus he made no intrinsically dangerous decisions... just some mistaken ones.  but he was a danger so... all your excuses will NEVER WORK. unless you're talking to Fee or some shit.






ok, so we accept that 20 is still a kid, raise the age for everything to 21+
and ban everyone under 21 from the board... been nice knowing you guys


ask fee about the first time he came to my house, he was with me and he still
almost got his ass shot and buried under the house


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21770744 - 06/06/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well, that coming toward your house might be cause for concern, like ready aim fire, oh wait... it's just fee.

and i am saying that 20 is still an extremely childish age, and i don't see 20 year old's EVER being adult about anything. even with your mature 20 something's it's still not a complete shift into adulthood.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21770779 - 06/06/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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well, that coming toward your house might be cause for concern, like ready aim fire, oh wait... it's just fee.





the reason he wasnt shot was because I was with him, so he was then accepted as
being less of a threat

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i am saying that 20 is still an extremely childish age, and i don't see 20 year old's EVER being adult about anything. even with your mature 20 something's it's still not a complete shift into adulthood.





wow, you guys must hang out with a lot of retarded little shits because most 20
year olds are capable of making decisions, they know the consequences of their
actions and let that temper their judgement. but hey, I wont stop you from
hanging out with retards


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21770813 - 06/06/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hey, whoa there sonny jim... i've known only a few friends, in my 20's, and they were all responsible and tempered with their judgements (save irresponsible drug use, but never took that shit to the streets, at least) so, you have nothing there.

i am talking about people, generally, whom i see outside of my circle, and those whom i've just seen around, and not to mention, those here on this forum, whom are somewhat responsible, but also somewhat childish.

in fact, even people in their late 30's 40's, can still potentially hold very childish notions. i'm sure even you do, like for example... your swift delineating of my decisions, even though well you don't know my decisions. you think you know, but... you don't. see: childish.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21770825 - 06/06/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Here's another one for the fuck the police crowd.

Family Raided by SWAT and their Dog Shot, for Being Unable to Pay Utility Bill

http://http://thefreethoughtproject.com/family-raided-swat-dog-shot-unable-pay-utility-bill/

Zorich was at home with several family members and her pit bull, Kiya, when a St. Louis County Police Tactical Response Unit burst through the door without knocking, according to her suit. The unit had at least five officers with M-4 rifles, supported by at least eight uniformed officers.

The officers entered so quickly, Zorich’s suit alleges, that Kiya didn’t even have time to bark. A tactical officer fired three shots into the dog, and the dog’s “bladder and bowels released and she fell to the floor.” The dog “was laying on the floor in her own waste and blood struggling to breathe. She had a gaping hole in her chest.”

Zorich claims the officers kept trying to talk to her about the natural gas, but she was focused on her dog, whom she’d raised as a puppy and who (she says) had “never shown agression to any person.”

At one point in the raid, Zorich alleges, an officer pointed his firearm at her son’s head and said “One word, motherfucker, and I’ll put three in you.”





wow... and you guys want to call this a source of information




I trust her word over the cop's... raiding someone's house and killing their dog over an unpaid gas bill, now that's just plain despicable.


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: JustForToday]
    #21771031 - 06/06/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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And you know what's funny? I seen this video on facebook. And I didn't see a single black person commenting on it. IF this guy was black, the whole entire community would be in an uproar. Wouldn't you agree?



when is the white community ever in uproar about a black man being killed in situations like these?


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Re: Cop kills white guy for no reason [Re: theRAPeutic] * 1
    #21771093 - 06/06/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If it had been a negro, which you are not, there would have been major news coverage, riots, burning and looting, the whole bit. Obumble might have made another stupid speech, jesse jackass and al sharptop would have come in like flies on shit. But since its merely a white guy who did nothing violent to deserve being shot, its like no big deal.

If it had been a negro most of the shroomery would be outraged.


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