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OfflinePurpleSticky
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First cube monotub looking unusual!
    #21767405 - 06/05/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Went from wheat grain to a coco and vermiculite substrate. I've been letting the mycelium colonize for probably about 5-6 days by now. Just figured I'd post a picture because it's looking incredibly 'ropey'.

I'm curious if it's because my substrate is pretty moist. I squeezed as much out as I could, but I feel like the moisture may be causing growth like this. All seems well though!



Here is today 5 days from the last picture



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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: PurpleSticky]
    #21767421 - 06/05/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've seen overly wet subs/cakes cause the same growth. Bacteria will cause similar growth but to me it looks like a moisture issue. You should be ok either way


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21767442 - 06/05/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:confused: OP,why are you complaining about rhizomorphic growth?  am i missing something?


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21767465 - 06/05/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well, too much rhizo "can" be a sign of contam


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: Buck513]
    #21767479 - 06/05/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if it were a waterlogged sub, it wouldn't have that much mycelial growth after 5-6 days though, right?  IMO it looks perfect.  :shrug:


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21767542 - 06/05/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looks fine.


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: djmako7]
    #21767553 - 06/05/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm just curious why you put that much sub in there.
Like its partly up the hole you cut out. Your poly will probably be sitting on the substrate lol


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: Buck513]
    #21767686 - 06/05/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wasn't complaining, just sharing my experience! Of all the stuff I've looked through, this one seemed to look unique as far as growth goes.

Substrate is definitely a bit on the deep side. I used one brick and it expanded a ton. More than I expected. I've got enough for 2 or 3 more of these size tubs. They are fairly small. I suppose I won't have to worry about my holes being too high ha ha. This is my Americanized monotub which follows the guidelines of ''Go big or go home'' and ''more is better''.

I'll give it a few more days and take my tape off and stick in some poly. Hopefully all goes well!


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: PurpleSticky]
    #21767695 - 06/05/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You should do more homework before spawning to bulk lol.
I personally would never have my sub that deep


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: PurpleSticky]
    #21767703 - 06/05/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

(yea i guess "complaining" was the wrong word, sorry)

use a garbage bag liner next time so you don't get side pins :thumbup:

also, don't rush it.  wait until full colonization before you introduce fruting conditions

got any pics of the whole FC?  im curious to see your setup.


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21767756 - 06/05/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Worse comes to worse op, you can skip poly in the bottom holes and just cut a slit or few in the tape.

Start with one and judge your Fae, then do another, etc.

Poly is the easiest thing since you can cram it in but you can grow in a "no hole" mono or improvise otherwise.

The whole point is to provide as much Fae is possible while maintaining a pretty high rh. What means you accomplish this by doesn't really matter.


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: Buck513]
    #21767981 - 06/05/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You should do more homework before spawning to bulk lol.
I personally would never have my sub that deep




Do you have any worksheets I could do? I live for gold stars.

I suppose I could always cut more holes if I really need to. I think the holes, albeit a bit low, will still serve their purpose. I've got a few tubs with oysters in them that are identical in construction, and they are doing very well. Gonna be eating well pretty soon!

The garbage bag liner is definitely going to be included in my next grow. I did come across a few cases where people were pulling decent fruit from the bottom of their tubs. I've got few other jars of spawn that I'll give that a go with. My oysters are growing from the sides of my other tubs too. As long as I can still eat them, I'm content.


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: PurpleSticky]
    #21768111 - 06/05/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

going without a liner won't give you an advantage.  you'll still get the same weight.  but using a liner will make harvest time a lot easier.

what depth is your sub?


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: PurpleSticky]
    #21768113 - 06/05/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My holes run low sometimes depending on the size of the bricks of coir, some bricks give me 2" subs and others give me 2 1/2" subs and the holes have worked out fine. I just stuff the bottom holes a little more loose than I normally do when the sub runs a little high


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: PurpleSticky]
    #21768796 - 06/06/15 03:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Buck513 said:
You should do more homework before spawning to bulk lol.
I personally would never have my sub that deep




Do you have any worksheets I could do? I live for gold stars.

I suppose I could always cut more holes if I really need to. I think the holes, albeit a bit low, will still serve their purpose. I've got a few tubs with oysters in them that are identical in construction, and they are doing very well. Gonna be eating well pretty soon!

The garbage bag liner is definitely going to be included in my next grow. I did come across a few cases where people were pulling decent fruit from the bottom of their tubs. I've got few other jars of spawn that I'll give that a go with. My oysters are growing from the sides of my other tubs too. As long as I can still eat them, I'm content.




Don't get butthurt.
My point was its good to see how many quarts fit at whatever height you want, if you wanted to keep grow journals you'd need some consistency to compare different things. Whatever you wanted to test.
Plus you should know a brick expands to 8 quarts or so


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: Buck513]
    #21769584 - 06/06/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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going without a liner won't give you an advantage.  you'll still get the same weight.  but using a liner will make harvest time a lot easier.

what depth is your sub?




It's about 2.5". In hindsight, it's probably a good idea haha.


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Don't get butthurt.
My point was its good to see how many quarts fit at whatever height you want, if you wanted to keep grow journals you'd need some consistency to compare different things. Whatever you wanted to test.
Plus you should know a brick expands to 8 quarts or so




You came off as being condescending. I definitely made way too much substrate. I've got probably 2 or 3 times as much coir as I needed. I just threw a brick in a bucket and it came out huge. I figure I'll keep it until my next go around and pasteurize it for my next tub.

I'm not really sure how many tubs I'll end up growing, especially of cubes. I've only eaten them a few times, just figured I should grow my own instead of sourcing them otherwise. If they grow right, I'll be happy. If not, I've got a few more jars of spawn waiting their turn!


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: Buck513]
    #21769885 - 06/06/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm just curious why you put that much sub in there.
Like its partly up the hole you cut out. Your poly will probably be sitting on the substrate lol




That shouldn't hurt. Better that way than the sub being below the holes... As long as there is still adequate room for circulation, FAE, & the cO2 can flow off.

Also need enough room in the tub for fruiting...:thumbup:


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21790503 - 06/10/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Figured I'd post again to show how it's going. It's been 5 days and this is how it's looking.

Here is 5 days ago


And here is today!


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: PurpleSticky]
    #21790536 - 06/10/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looking good, is it knotting up? Looks like it is in the pic but kinda hard to tell. If it is knotting I'd go ahead and fruit it


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Re: First cube monotub looking unusual! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21790579 - 06/10/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The stuff that looks like knotting is the ends of the mycelium that's reaching is just the ends of the rhizomorphic growth. Doesn't look like knotting like my blue oysters, so I don't think that's what it is. I'm cool to give it another few days, but it's definitely getting close! I'm curious if I possibly didn't use enough spawn. I didn't really measure... which I probably should have.

I used a multispore syringe and most of my jars look really rhizomorphic. These two jars didn't colonize at first until I gave them a good shake then they started.



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