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InvisibleBill_Oreilly
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Lets talk about chris kyle...
    #21767045 - 06/05/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

so theres this kid I used to go to highschool with whos this hardcore pro-army guy who served and blah blah blah..


this conversation ensued over facebook. Do you agree with him?

Him: Had to delete a couple people off facebook. Because "snipers are cowards"

ME:  i wouldnt say snipers are cowards but i did think that chris kyle dude wasnt this massive american hero like many believe he was


Him:  And that's what I would expect from someone who hasn't or isn't serving. In my community he is exactly that. But it's just a different mindset I guess

ME: what makes him so much more special than the guys next to him? because he killed more people?

ME: im just saying if hes a hero then ur all heros

HIM: No what made him more special was the fact that he went above and beyond being a sniper, dude cleared houses that's insane for a SEAL to do, but what makes him a hero to me personally is what he dedicated his life to after the fact

HIM: Those guys are a whole different level man, it's nice to see when they use it for bettering the world. And that's exactly what he did


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21767055 - 06/05/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When I read snipers are cowards it made me think about that story I read about the suspected serial sniper in Colorado.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21767066 - 06/05/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Snipers are cowards?

Then the guys pushing buttons to lauch missiles are mega cowards.

Snipers can stand still for hours not moving a muscle just waiting in the battlefield. Do you know what happens to a sniper if he gets captured by the enemy?


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21767072 - 06/05/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol the guy that is shooting people in NoCo isn't a coward but a psychopath or sorts. Like Chris Kyle x)


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Psalm 12:6
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Shiithead]
    #21767544 - 06/05/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

chris kyle...even his name pisses me off


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21767570 - 06/05/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

snipers are a battlefield multiplier, they change the game.

but never seen chris kyles war or american sniper or any of that shit... im sure everything eastwood did in american sniper glorified all the numbers.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: rackem]
    #21767603 - 06/05/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



Fuck Chris Kyle, Here's a real american hero.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: rackem]
    #21767613 - 06/05/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Being a sniper is extremely dangerous.  Watch American Sniper.  There was an Iraqi sniper who was very good.  He's dead.  Snipers hole up alone.  If the enemy gets even the slightest clue about where they are they flood the position with troops and artillery and the sniper almost never has a chance. 

I don't give a fuck what a bunch of civilian cunts think about Kyle.  Everybody who served with him called him "the Legend".


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21767619 - 06/05/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

^^ of course a republican would say such a thing


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21767621 - 06/05/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



Cute. This mother fucker pissed off the enemies so much, they we're sending air strikes in his general direction. Never used a scope either, didn't like how visible it made you.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21767631 - 06/05/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
^^ of course a republican would say such a thing



I'm not a Republican.  I am a conservative.  Some might say a neo-con.  I wouldn't argue.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21767633 - 06/05/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My issue with Chris Kyle was primarily that he both lied often and exhaustively about his exploits (being successfully sued by Jesse Ventura for saying he knocked Ventura out in a bar brawl for talking shit about George Bush and the War in Iraq + claiming he murdered 2 Mexican carjackers and buried them in the woods + He and a buddy going down to New Orleans after Katrina with a rifle to pick off looters) and that he took a sociopathic level of pride in the exploits he DID have. I've read portions of his book online where he makes it pretty clear that he wished he'd killed more people and didn't regret killing a single one of the 'savages', man, woman, or child. Glorifying a racist for killing what he views as vermin is morally reprehensible for me. Especially when 70 years ago we took men precisely like him to trial in front of the whole world and let them hang







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Psychonautica said:


Cute. This mother fucker pissed off the enemies so much, they we're sending air strikes in his general direction. Never used a scope either, didn't like how visible it made you.







This guy is easily one of the most unquestionably hardcore badasses of the last century.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Cj-B]
    #21767645 - 06/05/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah for sure, mother fucker had nuts of steel.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Cj-B]
    #21767699 - 06/05/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Cj-B said:
My issue with Chris Kyle was primarily that he both lied often and exhaustively about his exploits (being successfully sued by Jesse Ventura for saying he knocked Ventura out in a bar brawl for talking shit about George Bush and the War in Iraq + claiming he murdered 2 Mexican carjackers and buried them in the woods + He and a buddy going down to New Orleans after Katrina with a rifle to pick off looters) and that he took a sociopathic level of pride in the exploits he DID have. I've read portions of his book online where he makes it pretty clear that he wished he'd killed more people and didn't regret killing a single one of the 'savages', man, woman, or child. Glorifying a racist for killing what he views as vermin is morally reprehensible for me. Especially when 70 years ago we took men precisely like him to trial in front of the whole world and let them hang





If a woman has a grenade she is a target.  If a child has a grenade he is a target.  Fuck Jesse Ventura he is one of the biggest retards in the country and why did the bitch sue?.  I have no idea what the rest of that is about

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for talking shit about George Bush and the War in Iraq + claiming he murdered 2 Mexican carjackers and buried them in the woods + He and a buddy going down to New Orleans after Katrina with a rifle to pick off looters)




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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21767768 - 06/05/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
If a woman has a grenade she is a target.  If a child has a grenade he is a target.  Fuck Jesse Ventura he is one of the biggest retards in the country and why did the bitch sue?.  I have no idea what the rest of that is about






That wasn't in dispute. My point was that the thing he took the greatest pride and pleasure in was his body count. Theres a pretty core difference between killing men in the service of your country and taking pride in that service as a whole and killing men in the service of your country and taking a sadistic pleasure in the act of killing itself. Whether he was telling true stories or lies they all centered around him committing acts of violence. Hardly an admirable trait :imo:


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Cj-B]
    #21767837 - 06/05/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you think snipers are cowards than you clearly haven't played metal gear solid 3. The end boss fight is enough to show what a badass snipers can be. Only way i could beat him was by cheating and setting my ps2 clock ahead a couple weeks so he died of old age.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #21767854 - 06/05/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Didn't chris Kyle get killed by some no name loser?


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #21767865 - 06/05/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That wasn't MGS3

The final boss in MGS3 was The Boss.

This bitch.



I think you're talking about the MGS4 battle with Crying Wolf.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21767894 - 06/05/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
so theres this kid I used to go to highschool with whos this hardcore pro-army guy who served and blah blah blah..


this conversation ensued over facebook. Do you agree with him?

Him: Had to delete a couple people off facebook. Because "snipers are cowards"

ME:  i wouldnt say snipers are cowards but i did think that chris kyle dude wasnt this massive american hero like many believe he was


Him:  And that's what I would expect from someone who hasn't or isn't serving. In my community he is exactly that. But it's just a different mindset I guess

ME: what makes him so much more special than the guys next to him? because he killed more people?

ME: im just saying if hes a hero then ur all heros

HIM: No what made him more special was the fact that he went above and beyond being a sniper, dude cleared houses that's insane for a SEAL to do, but what makes him a hero to me personally is what he dedicated his life to after the fact

HIM: Those guys are a whole different level man, it's nice to see when they use it for bettering the world. And that's exactly what he did





The problem is that you have all of these brainwashed people in the military who actually think that by slaughtering civilians/rebels/militias in other countries they are somehow doing a GOOD thing for humanity.

It couldn't be further from the truth.

We never should have invaded Iraq in the first place.

What was the end result of our invasion? Over a Million dead, the country's infrastructure destroyed, and the eruption of civil war..

And now half the country is ruled by ISIS.. Great job!


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21767896 - 06/05/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Psychonautica said:
That wasn't MGS3

The final boss in MGS3 was The Boss.

This bitch.



I think you're talking about the MGS4 battle with Crying Wolf.



No i meant the boss named the end, he was the sniper battle, it spanned over three screens and there was like 6 ways you could beat him. Old ass guy, had photosynthetic powers, and is most likely quiets dad or grandpa in the phantom pain. Until we get to see how quiet pairs up to the end.

Fuck i forgot about sniper wolf from mgs1. I take my statement back. Shes the most badass sniper ever. Then the end. Then quiet. Then crying wolf. And whoever that guy from american sniper is can come in fifth i guess idk. Actually the chick from full metal jacket gets fifth place. American sniper had to be pretty good. Idk never saw it.:lol: Video game snipers are more badass than real life snipers though.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: chopstick]
    #21767899 - 06/05/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Chris Kyle and snipers in general are far from cowards, though I wouldn't call them heroes either


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #21767903 - 06/05/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21767929 - 06/05/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

um that was pretty gay


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21767985 - 06/05/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I assure you she was the hottest chick in dubyadubyatoo, and if you're calling Woodie Guthrie gay I will drive into boston right now and beat you with a classic americana lock on a bandana


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21768022 - 06/05/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I got much respect for Chris Kyle. I wouldn't have wanted his career, that's for sure.

Don't blame the soldier, blame the war.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Detached]
    #21769202 - 06/06/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Detached said:
I got much respect for Chris Kyle. I wouldn't have wanted his career, that's for sure.

Don't blame the soldier, blame the war.





if all the soldiers refused to fight then there wouldn't be a war...because we all know damn well the old guys pulling the strings wont go out and fight.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21769210 - 06/06/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They'd just build robots to fight.

Mother fucker I played metal gear solid. I know how that shit goes down. :lol:

There's money in war. There will always be money in war. If not money land. If not land women. There's never ever been a peaceful time in human history when a society has existed.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21769220 - 06/06/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Psychonautica said:
There's never ever been a peaceful time in human history when a society has existed.





yes there has...thousands and thousands of years ago, though.


when we were having orgies and living in the forest


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21769226 - 06/06/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
when we were having orgies and living in the forest



Blood orgies, living in the forests of our dead enemies. Good times.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21769228 - 06/06/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's hardly a society. I said when humans had society. I mean I guess giant ape orgies are technically a society but I think you know what I meant.

There's never been a peaceful time in recorded human history. Is that better? They were even killing people on cave drawings.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21769240 - 06/06/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Quote:

Psychonautica said:
There's never ever been a peaceful time in human history when a society has existed.





yes there has...thousands and thousands of years ago, though.


when we were having orgies and living in the forest



That's not true. Primate troops typically rival over territory and resources.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21769241 - 06/06/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Chimpanzee warfare:







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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: PatrickKn]
    #21769251 - 06/06/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There's an experiment where they taught monkeys the value of money, and the monkeys could pay the human for food, and you know what happened? It wasn't a war.

The male monkeys started paying the females for sex instead of exchanging it for food.

I present to you my theory, if prostitution is legal, there would be no war.

Joking, mostly. Funny experiment though.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21769320 - 06/06/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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There's never ever been a peaceful time in human history when a society has existed.





yes there has...thousands and thousands of years ago, though.


when we were having orgies and living in the forest



That's not true. Primate troops typically rival over territory and resources.





it is true.

at one point there was human beings living in harmony.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21769327 - 06/06/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What if this thread was a Grammer mistake?

Instead of let's talk about Chris kyle.

Maybe it's let's talk about Chris, Kyle.


I'm not kyle. Everyone who isn't kyle needs to leave.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21769363 - 06/06/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This thread just jumped the shark.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: koods]
    #21769372 - 06/06/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:okay:.
I tend to do that


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #21769373 - 06/06/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I got much respect for Chris Kyle. I wouldn't have wanted his career, that's for sure.

Don't blame the soldier, blame the war.





if all the soldiers refused to fight then there wouldn't be a war...because we all know damn well the old guys pulling the strings wont go out and fight.



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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21769384 - 06/06/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21770280 - 06/06/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No, I don't agree with him.  American culture provides the Jesus narrative for its soldiers in a cult of personality.  Soldiers are only heroes in a myopic view of the world.  If you're on the battle field with a gun, it doesn't matter what position you take because you're just a number on a paper that was shipped out to go do what they're told and if you die you're just a statistic.  Maybe if you get hurt or captured doing it you'll be recognized as something else.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: abltsandwich]
    #21770378 - 06/06/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Your fellow soldiers don't think you're a statistic.  Only benighted assholes do


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21772069 - 06/06/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Your fellow soldiers don't think you're a statistic.  Only benighted assholes do





so? whats it matter what your fellow soldier thinks? you are still dead at the hands of old people


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21773126 - 06/07/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That still doesn't make you a statistic except to benighted assholes.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21773341 - 06/07/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck the military, fuck people who enlist, fuck people who support those who enlist.


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    #21773364 - 06/07/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I do not agree with him. Just from what Ive read about Chris Kyle. My uncle was an army rangers sniper. He has plenty of medals and confirmed kills. He will not talk about it though. He's a great man but when he came back to normal civilization he had a very hard time assimilating. Was shot in the face and neck and has been hit by shrapnel. Cant recall what metals because he's on my dads side of the family and I haven't seen them for a while. I know he has a purple heart and many more that I can't remember. Between him and my grandpa not uttering a word about their time in the military, anyone who is willing to go so far as to write a book about their exploits must be a sociopath and not a hero. Im pretty anti war so I don't view soldiers as heroes but just regular people who've been exploited and used by their own government.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: KnowWhatIMean]
    #21773375 - 06/07/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's all fake. There's no such thing as confirmed kills in the USA. He made that shit up for money.

http://carryingthegun.com/2013/05/13/army-myths-confirmed-kills/


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: KnowWhatIMean]
    #21773377 - 06/07/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I do not agree with him. Just from what Ive read about Chris Kyle. My uncle was an army rangers sniper. He has plenty of medals and confirmed kills. He will not talk about it though. He's a great man but when he came back to normal civilization he had a very hard time assimilating. Was shot in the face and neck and has been hit by shrapnel. Cant recall what metals because he's on my dads side of the family and I haven't seen them for a while. I know he has a purple heart and many more that I can't remember. Between him and my grandpa not uttering a word about their time in the military, anyone who is willing to go so far as to write a book about their exploits must be a sociopath and not a hero. Im pretty anti war so I don't view soldiers as heroes but just regular people who've been exploited and used by their own government.




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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Shiithead]
    #21773386 - 06/07/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

All I meant was my uncle has killed people that didn't deserve it and regrets it. No doubt that its all bullshit


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: KnowWhatIMean]
    #21773477 - 06/07/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How do you know they didn't deserve it?  Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?

The anti-war idiots need to wake up.  There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force.  It is called defense for a reason.  Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law?  There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military.  Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21773502 - 06/07/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Obviously. Usually opposing forces intend on killing each other during war. Neither of them deserved to die though. If anything the enemy of the US tends to be the victim. If it were defense, we wouldn't be the ones dominating other countries turf.


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    #21773525 - 06/07/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Obviously. Usually opposing forces intend on killing each other during war. Neither of them deserved to die though. If anything the enemy of the US tends to be the victim. If it were defense, we wouldn't be the ones dominating other countries turf.




That is kneejerk nitwittery.  We defend our allies, too.  Like Kuwait.  Are the Taliban monsters victims?  Were the Nazis?  Do you realize just how scummy the North Koreans and North Vietnamese commies were?  We go , we fight, we leave.  Our biggest military disgrace was abandoning the South Vietnamese to those thugs from the North because of some lily livered morons who demanded restraint.  It is the morons who demand restraint who guarantee endless war because there can never be total victory like against Japan and Germany.  You nmight note that you never heard another peep out of either of them.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21773559 - 06/07/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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We go , we fight, we leave.




This is a lie.

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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Shiithead]
    #21773598 - 06/07/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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We go , we fight, we leave.




This is a lie.

We go, we fight, we stay.



Also monumentally stupid.  We have embassies in the vast majority of countries and so does every other country.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21773698 - 06/07/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How do you know they didn't deserve it?  Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?

The anti-war idiots need to wake up.  There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force.  It is called defense for a reason.  Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law?  There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military.  Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops




But that logic everyone in the US military who has been killed deserved it. In the case of Iraq, I would say the people who are defending their own country deserve it a lot less than the invaders.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: koods]
    #21774311 - 06/07/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How do you know they didn't deserve it?  Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?

The anti-war idiots need to wake up.  There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force.  It is called defense for a reason.  Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law?  There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military.  Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops




But that logic everyone in the US military who has been killed deserved it. In the case of Iraq, I would say the people who are defending their own country deserve it a lot less than the invaders.




They invaded Kuwait and were under strict compliance orders that they accepted and then didn't adhere to.  They weren't defending their country, they were defending a mass murderer.  It's still there isn't it?  Iraqis still lead it, don't they?  Their country was under no threat from us, their leader was.  Hand him over and there's no issue at all.

Why does everybody forget why inspectors were there in the first place?  And why there were no fly zones?  They invaded a much smaller and weaker country, killed millions, set dozens of oil wells on fire creating an ecological disaster, drained another area of their own country where the people were deemed not sufficiently in support of Saddam, gassed their own Kurdish citizens.  The people of the Iraq army weren't defending their country.  They were defending a mass murderer.  Our greatest mistake was not taking him out the first time.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21774603 - 06/07/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The UN did not authorize the invasion, even after the Bush administration presented fabricated and faulty intelligence. The US was the country in violation of UN mandates by invading Iraq, as the Secretary General has stated. Don't pretend that the US was enforcing UN mandates when the UN did not authorize military action.


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    #21774848 - 06/07/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

50 nations went with us and several had independently verified that there were chemical weapons with their own intelligence service.  Saddam was playing a shell game with the UN inspectors and that was enough.

Oh, and he did have WMDs, as the NY Times has confirmed

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/03/world/middleeast/chemical-weapons-iraq-pentagon-secrets.html


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    #21775080 - 06/07/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How do you know they didn't deserve it?  Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?

The anti-war idiots need to wake up.  There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force.  It is called defense for a reason.  Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law?  There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military.  Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops





people only want to kill people because they are killing people.

the only way anti-war will work is if EVERYONE puts the guns down. its an all or nothing thing.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21775152 - 06/07/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How do you know they didn't deserve it?  Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?

The anti-war idiots need to wake up.  There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force.  It is called defense for a reason.  Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law?  There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military.  Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops





people only want to kill people because they are killing people.

the only way anti-war will work is if EVERYONE puts the guns down. its an all or nothing thing.



That is exactly right.  It is also never going to happen.  The best way to deter violent assholes is through strength and resolution.  Weakness encourages them.


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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21775165 - 06/07/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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50 nations went with us and several had independently verified that there were chemical weapons with their own intelligence service.  Saddam was playing a shell game with the UN inspectors and that was enough.

Oh, and he did have WMDs, as the NY Times has confirmed

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/03/world/middleeast/chemical-weapons-iraq-pentagon-secrets.html




From the article: "These weapons were not part of an active arsenal. They were remnants from Iraq’s arms program in the 1980s during the Iran-Iraq war."

Aren't you embarrassed to even mention the "coalition if the willing?" Wow. Moldova sent an IT guy. Out Moldova on the list of allies. It was the US, Britain and Australia. The rest were a joke.


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    #21775208 - 06/07/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No.  Even Canadians were there.  Regardless, 50 nations is 50 nations that showed support.


It is irrelevant that they were not part of an active arsenal.  They were active chemicals that made people sick and that he was required to destroy.  How long do you think it would take to reactivate it?  A week?  He hid them for later use and they were still potent.  The NY Times loathes Bush so of course they would bring up an irrelevant point


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