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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: abltsandwich]
#21770378 - 06/06/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your fellow soldiers don't think you're a statistic. Only benighted assholes do
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
#21772069 - 06/06/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Your fellow soldiers don't think you're a statistic. Only benighted assholes do
so? whats it matter what your fellow soldier thinks? you are still dead at the hands of old people
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21773126 - 06/07/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That still doesn't make you a statistic except to benighted assholes.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#21773341 - 06/07/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fuck the military, fuck people who enlist, fuck people who support those who enlist.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: King Klick]
#21773364 - 06/07/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I do not agree with him. Just from what Ive read about Chris Kyle. My uncle was an army rangers sniper. He has plenty of medals and confirmed kills. He will not talk about it though. He's a great man but when he came back to normal civilization he had a very hard time assimilating. Was shot in the face and neck and has been hit by shrapnel. Cant recall what metals because he's on my dads side of the family and I haven't seen them for a while. I know he has a purple heart and many more that I can't remember. Between him and my grandpa not uttering a word about their time in the military, anyone who is willing to go so far as to write a book about their exploits must be a sociopath and not a hero. Im pretty anti war so I don't view soldiers as heroes but just regular people who've been exploited and used by their own government.
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It's all fake. There's no such thing as confirmed kills in the USA. He made that shit up for money.
http://carryingthegun.com/2013/05/13/army-myths-confirmed-kills/
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KnowWhatIMean said: I do not agree with him. Just from what Ive read about Chris Kyle. My uncle was an army rangers sniper. He has plenty of medals and confirmed kills. He will not talk about it though. He's a great man but when he came back to normal civilization he had a very hard time assimilating. Was shot in the face and neck and has been hit by shrapnel. Cant recall what metals because he's on my dads side of the family and I haven't seen them for a while. I know he has a purple heart and many more that I can't remember. Between him and my grandpa not uttering a word about their time in the military, anyone who is willing to go so far as to write a book about their exploits must be a sociopath and not a hero. Im pretty anti war so I don't view soldiers as heroes but just regular people who've been exploited and used by their own government.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Shiithead]
#21773386 - 06/07/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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All I meant was my uncle has killed people that didn't deserve it and regrets it. No doubt that its all bullshit
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How do you know they didn't deserve it? Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?
The anti-war idiots need to wake up. There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force. It is called defense for a reason. Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law? There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military. Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
#21773502 - 06/07/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Obviously. Usually opposing forces intend on killing each other during war. Neither of them deserved to die though. If anything the enemy of the US tends to be the victim. If it were defense, we wouldn't be the ones dominating other countries turf.
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KnowWhatIMean said: Obviously. Usually opposing forces intend on killing each other during war. Neither of them deserved to die though. If anything the enemy of the US tends to be the victim. If it were defense, we wouldn't be the ones dominating other countries turf.
That is kneejerk nitwittery. We defend our allies, too. Like Kuwait. Are the Taliban monsters victims? Were the Nazis? Do you realize just how scummy the North Koreans and North Vietnamese commies were? We go , we fight, we leave. Our biggest military disgrace was abandoning the South Vietnamese to those thugs from the North because of some lily livered morons who demanded restraint. It is the morons who demand restraint who guarantee endless war because there can never be total victory like against Japan and Germany. You nmight note that you never heard another peep out of either of them.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
#21773559 - 06/07/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: We go , we fight, we leave.
This is a lie.
We go, we fight, we stay.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Shiithead]
#21773598 - 06/07/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: We go , we fight, we leave.
This is a lie.
We go, we fight, we stay.
Also monumentally stupid. We have embassies in the vast majority of countries and so does every other country.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
#21773698 - 06/07/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: How do you know they didn't deserve it? Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?
The anti-war idiots need to wake up. There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force. It is called defense for a reason. Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law? There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military. Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops
But that logic everyone in the US military who has been killed deserved it. In the case of Iraq, I would say the people who are defending their own country deserve it a lot less than the invaders.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: koods]
#21774311 - 06/07/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: How do you know they didn't deserve it? Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?
The anti-war idiots need to wake up. There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force. It is called defense for a reason. Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law? There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military. Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops
But that logic everyone in the US military who has been killed deserved it. In the case of Iraq, I would say the people who are defending their own country deserve it a lot less than the invaders.
They invaded Kuwait and were under strict compliance orders that they accepted and then didn't adhere to. They weren't defending their country, they were defending a mass murderer. It's still there isn't it? Iraqis still lead it, don't they? Their country was under no threat from us, their leader was. Hand him over and there's no issue at all.
Why does everybody forget why inspectors were there in the first place? And why there were no fly zones? They invaded a much smaller and weaker country, killed millions, set dozens of oil wells on fire creating an ecological disaster, drained another area of their own country where the people were deemed not sufficiently in support of Saddam, gassed their own Kurdish citizens. The people of the Iraq army weren't defending their country. They were defending a mass murderer. Our greatest mistake was not taking him out the first time.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
#21774603 - 06/07/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The UN did not authorize the invasion, even after the Bush administration presented fabricated and faulty intelligence. The US was the country in violation of UN mandates by invading Iraq, as the Secretary General has stated. Don't pretend that the US was enforcing UN mandates when the UN did not authorize military action.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: koods]
#21774848 - 06/07/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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50 nations went with us and several had independently verified that there were chemical weapons with their own intelligence service. Saddam was playing a shell game with the UN inspectors and that was enough.
Oh, and he did have WMDs, as the NY Times has confirmed
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/03/world/middleeast/chemical-weapons-iraq-pentagon-secrets.html
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#21775080 - 06/07/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: How do you know they didn't deserve it? Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?
The anti-war idiots need to wake up. There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force. It is called defense for a reason. Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law? There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military. Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops
people only want to kill people because they are killing people.
the only way anti-war will work is if EVERYONE puts the guns down. its an all or nothing thing.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21775152 - 06/07/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: How do you know they didn't deserve it? Were they carrying weapons and wearing the uniform of the enemy in a time of war and trying to kill our guys?
The anti-war idiots need to wake up. There are several billion people on the planet and a rather significant portion of them want to kill you or make you bow to their will by force. It is called defense for a reason. Would you prefer living under Soviet communism, Hitlerian Nazism, Sharia law? There is only one thing that keeps those wolves at bay and that is the sheepdogs of the US military. Probably the same idiots who would do away with cops
people only want to kill people because they are killing people.
the only way anti-war will work is if EVERYONE puts the guns down. its an all or nothing thing.
That is exactly right. It is also never going to happen. The best way to deter violent assholes is through strength and resolution. Weakness encourages them.
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Re: Lets talk about chris kyle... [Re: zappaisgod]
#21775165 - 06/07/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: 50 nations went with us and several had independently verified that there were chemical weapons with their own intelligence service. Saddam was playing a shell game with the UN inspectors and that was enough.
Oh, and he did have WMDs, as the NY Times has confirmed
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/03/world/middleeast/chemical-weapons-iraq-pentagon-secrets.html
From the article: "These weapons were not part of an active arsenal. They were remnants from Iraq’s arms program in the 1980s during the Iran-Iraq war."
Aren't you embarrassed to even mention the "coalition if the willing?" Wow. Moldova sent an IT guy. Out Moldova on the list of allies. It was the US, Britain and Australia. The rest were a joke.
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