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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: alised]
#21766046 - 06/05/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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alised said: to be real I think it's just about the fact that we have pussy ass cops who draw their guns and unload their clips whenever they hear a squeak or see a "threatening" individual coming toward them, and the fact that they all get away with it. Cops are very helpful, but we need cops who don't kill the people they are suppose to protect for no reason, and if they do kill someone they should at least be held even fucking MIDLY accountable for it, that's all.
But yeah I'm down to talk about it to help change whenever not trying to get shot by a cop for nothing are you?
Let's not talk about the drug war though that is a whole other monster in of itself.
So true. Cops are quick to shoot folks because they lack confidence. A few months of training is nothing. Getting a gun without years of empty handed training and being in the field is a huge shortcut.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: lowbrow]
#21766049 - 06/05/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Actually no, he isn't the one making it about race. The media and other race pimps are. I haven't seen one thread about some white guy getting shot by cops.
Dude, you posted in it.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21760696/page/1/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/12
I didn't watch the video so I didn't know what color the guy was. My only post was for the idiots who think cops should shoot to wound. Nope, center mass empty that clip.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: zappaisgod]
#21766061 - 06/05/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Actually no, he isn't the one making it about race. The media and other race pimps are. I haven't seen one thread about some white guy getting shot by cops.
I've seen plenty of threads posted about white people being shot by cops, problem is it's hard to take the poster seriously when they follow the article with "why are there no riots? If it were a black person...."
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: zappaisgod]
#21766064 - 06/05/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: That they protect you from pricks like me? Oh how I wish you could have your way because then I would have mine. With you and all the other fools who think they could survive without police
I would be just fine.
You think so? Are you a nice guy or a nasty prick experienced in organization, logistics and leadership? We will fuck your shit up.
They already don't exist to me. I'm already at home all day when I'm not training. Everything about me, even the way I walk through a door, is something I've trained for and designed to keep me safe. I regularly sweep my house and visualize the worst. Seriously. My family and I will be fine no matter what.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: Matt87]
#21766080 - 06/05/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: Matt87]
#21766099 - 06/05/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: That they protect you from pricks like me? Oh how I wish you could have your way because then I would have mine. With you and all the other fools who think they could survive without police
I would be just fine.
You think so? Are you a nice guy or a nasty prick experienced in organization, logistics and leadership? We will fuck your shit up.
They already don't exist to me. I'm already at home all day when I'm not training. Everything about me, even the way I walk through a door, is something I've trained for and designed to keep me safe. I regularly sweep my house and visualize the worst. Seriously. My family and I will be fine no matter what.
I've seen zappa post the "i would have my way with you" bit so many times. Chances are he hasn't had his way with anyone because he's afraid of cops arresting him. If there weren't any cops i bet it would be the same but the fear would be from criminals he'd be just as scared of.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] 1
#21766104 - 06/05/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's zappa's point, cops ARE what stop him from having his way with people, and many other people are also held back for the same reason. Cops are necessary, I highly doubt anyone can make a valid argument as to why they aren't.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#21766124 - 06/05/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: That's zappa's point, cops ARE what stop him from having his way with people, and many other people are also held back for the same reason. Cops are necessary, I highly doubt anyone can make a valid argument as to why they aren't.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: zappaisgod]
#21766149 - 06/05/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Only a fool would deny the profound asymmetry policing and race. The level or interaction, and the subsequent outcomes when dealing with blacks are demonstrably biased against them. Blacks are more likely to be harassed, charged, and they are sentenced more heavily for the same crimes. Internal communications have exposed sick police departments. There simply is a mountain of evidence to support that blacks are treated differently even after adjusting for confounding variables.
So what happens when one points this out? The poor poor white male complains that no, they are the most discriminated against, or say "just deal with it", or they resort to the go-to chestnut of "statistical racism". The last one is my favorite, as people throw it out as if the history of such asymmetrically applied enforcement wouldn't make that a self-fulfilling issue - more blacks are in jail > blacks more likely to be criminals > throw more blacks in jail. repeat.
Honestly though the Shroomery is absolutely not the place for such discussions. People have left due to persistent and overt expressions of racism, and after returning for a while I can see that nothing has changed. But keep crying you poor oppressed white males.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: Void_Hawk] 1
#21766192 - 06/05/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The reasons Negroes get more police scrutiny is because they are far more likely to commit crimes. The neighborhoods they congregate in are usually the highest crime neighborhoods in the city. Murders have spiked since this bullshit press campaign has started and the vast majority of it is in the inner cities where the Negroes predominate. The police need to profile and harass young male Negroes to protect all the other Negroes. It is a fucking fact that cannot be denied.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: Void_Hawk]
#21766193 - 06/05/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is probably because most dangerous crime (gangs,thefts,shootings) happens in poverty stricken areas, and poverty stricken areas are generally made up of minorities. Of course there are racist cops, but that doesn't mean all cops are racist, and it still wouldn't be the cops fault directly, the problem would stem from something else. It's made to look racist, by news outlets and then people who watch those news outlets spreading it around.
Edit: fuck, zappa beat me to it.
Them being sentenced more heavily is also not because of the cops, that is the legal system to blame. Maybe I overlooked some posts, but I also haven't seen a single person say the white man is oppressed on here and that they are discriminated against more in this thread. So fuck outta here with that shit.
Edited by SirShroomsAlott (06/05/15 02:58 PM)
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: Void_Hawk]
#21766197 - 06/05/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you think arresting people who commit crimes causes crimes? That is too stupid for words.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: koods]
#21766230 - 06/05/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Wtf are you going on about. The problem with the police isn't about race. It's about the corrupt cop culture. You're the one making it about race.
Exactly I was listening to an active protester regarding the worst places of police brutality. He said that's what we need to get away from all this. If we stop treating it as a "Whites against Blacks" and if we start to think without race maybe we can begin to fix the INFRASTRUCTURE of the police and try reform police systems and get corrupt politicians and police officers out of authoritarian positions.
The real problem is changing such a massive infrastructure. I hope after 10-15 years of body cams and hopefully some reform might happen. My step dad who runs a jail and he says a lot of times they use police practices from the fucking 70s
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: Void_Hawk] 1
#21766243 - 06/05/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Void_Hawk said: Only a fool would deny the profound asymmetry policing and race. The level or interaction, and the subsequent outcomes when dealing with blacks are demonstrably biased against them. Blacks are more likely to be harassed, charged, and they are sentenced more heavily for the same crimes. Internal communications have exposed sick police departments. There simply is a mountain of evidence to support that blacks are treated differently even after adjusting for confounding variables.
So what happens when one points this out? The poor poor white male complains that no, they are the most discriminated against, or say "just deal with it", or they resort to the go-to chestnut of "statistical racism". The last one is my favorite, as people throw it out as if the history of such asymmetrically applied enforcement wouldn't make that a self-fulfilling issue - more blacks are in jail > blacks more likely to be criminals > throw more blacks in jail. repeat.
Honestly though the Shroomery is absolutely not the place for such discussions. People have left due to persistent and overt expressions of racism, and after returning for a while I can see that nothing has changed. But keep crying you poor oppressed white males.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: TopPmz]
#21766305 - 06/05/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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TopPmz said: GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!
There's at least one thread about it on the front page at all times, just to have the same discussion over and over. Stop it!
Ya know who shoots more black people than white cops do? Black people.
People of all races get killed by cops of all races all the time. No one cares, unless the cop is white and the dead person is black.
The pub is racist as fuck.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#21766457 - 06/05/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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TopPmz said: GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!
There's at least one thread about it on the front page at all times, just to have the same discussion over and over. Stop it!
Ya know who shoots more black people than white cops do? Black people.
People of all races get killed by cops of all races all the time. No one cares, unless the cop is white and the dead person is black.
The pub is racist as fuck.
Good post
What? You made a thread about a white guy getting shot by police and you think this is a good post?
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: koods]
#21766463 - 06/05/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not racist.
I love Malcom.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: Psychonautica]
#21766951 - 06/05/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: I'm not racist.
I love Malcom.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: TopPmz]
#21766967 - 06/05/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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TopPmz said: GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!
There's at least one thread about it on the front page at all times, just to have the same discussion over and over. Stop it!
Ya know who shoots more black people than white cops do? Black people.
People of all races get killed by cops of all races all the time. No one cares, unless the cop is white and the dead person is black.
The pub is racist as fuck.
Complains about racist police shooting threads.
Creates racist police shooting thread.
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Re: Sometimes white cops shoot black people... [Re: larry.fisherman]
#21766987 - 06/05/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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XLCaps said:
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TopPmz said: GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!
There's at least one thread about it on the front page at all times, just to have the same discussion over and over. Stop it!
Ya know who shoots more black people than white cops do? Black people.
People of all races get killed by cops of all races all the time. No one cares, unless the cop is white and the dead person is black.
The pub is racist as fuck.
Complains about racist police shooting threads.
Creates racist police shooting thread.
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