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First GrowLog B+
    #21765270 - 06/05/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ok guys this is my first post and also my first attempt at mushroom cultivation. Wish me luck.  I just wanted to keep a log of my grow on shroomery so hopefully others can get inspired and grow their own.

So for my setup,since it was my first grow and I don't own a PC I bought a grow kit from shroomsupply with prepasteurized grain, compost and casing. The kit ran me about $40. Also the B+ spore syringe was bought from premiumspores for $20.
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Now I plan to build a still air box soon but the shipping with these companies were very fast and I was very excited. So I went to the bathroom armed with lysol and iso and I sprayed everything down and wiped everything down. So with gloves and a face mask on I inoculated 2 1lb rye bags.

It is only day 2 since I inoculated the bags and the temp I have them at is  around 76-78. I inoculated each bag with 2ccs from the spore syringe which means I have 6ccs left in case this doesn't work out. I was told that it does not matter if I incubate these in the light or dark as long as the temperature is good. I was wondering if this is true or not because most teks I have read before usually say keep them in the dark. So does light or dark matter at this stage or does one cause myc to grow faster? I was just curious.

06/05/2015
2 Days after inoculation


I will keep everyone updated and post pics along the way. Also any answers to any questions will be greatly appreciated. Im hoping for at least 2 Oz dried after all is said and done. All the best guys.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21765320 - 06/05/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

always keep in pure dark...  light is one of the fruiting triggers.

Are you going to keep those in a cake form, or transfer them to a tub?

I would think transferring to a monotub would be the choice of most, but that tek always seemed a little more difficult than cakes.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21765337 - 06/05/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Give them light from colonization through fruiting, 12 on 12 off right from the get go.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: meowshroom]
    #21765359 - 06/05/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well actually I was going to follow the grow guide that's in shroomsupply website but according to their guide after fully colonized mix the 1lb rye with 2.5lb compost and then let that fully colonize in a bigger bag that they supply. And then after that apply casing directly on top inside the bag and just fan and mist daily. I am thinking about doing a tub though I just figure it will up my yield instead of just growing it out the bag. We will see when I get to that point.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21765371 - 06/05/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I always thought light as a pinning trigger was a myth because in nature spores and myc are exposed to light daily I think it just triggers the directon of growth but what do I know. So I think I will follow the 12/12 schedule.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21787671 - 06/10/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol well guess what guys I had indirect light on my substrate bags and the fiancee put it directly on and it actually dried out the rye seed inside on the front face of the bag with the injection port I dnot know if the heat killed my spores but I shook up the bags to redistribute moisture evenly and then shot them back up with 2 more ccs of spores. Does anyone think it's a lost cause or still salvageable.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21788119 - 06/10/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bags take a while to colonize from MS. I'd just give it some more time, I don't think the bag is toast yet :thumbup:

Light helps the mycelium at all stages of development. Main pinning triggers are, in order: 100% colonization of sub, FAE, moisture evaporation from the surface. Light helps because mushies derive some energy from the sun, like all creatures. But light, in and of itself, is not a main pinning trigger, it just really helps things along once everything else is dialed in. Many of our TC's here will tell you the same thing :thumbup:


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: Myconin]
    #21788144 - 06/10/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That looks like a lot of moisture inside the bags, no?

I've had ms syringe take almost two weeks to show myc on rye berries before..


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: newrook]
    #21788226 - 06/10/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

light doesn't bother colonization, it's a bit outdated info.
I keep my jars on a shelf without covering them and they go fine.

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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: GrimTripper]
    #21788552 - 06/10/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No I kno light doesn't bother it but the heat from the light dried it out I'm actually starting to see myc growth on one but the other one no. Hope it comes around as well will post pics


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21788568 - 06/10/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What are you using for a light source and how close is it too your grains?


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21790725 - 06/10/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)


First sign of myc :thumbup:


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21823467 - 06/18/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok so my first sign of myc was about 7 days after a ms inoculation and approx 5 days after the first sign of myc I have a ton of colonization points starting to thrive, definitely due to me shaking up the bag I plan to just leave it alone now maybe another shake at 70-75% colonization. Also I have about 3 or 4 ccs left in my spore syringe so I am thinking about isolating on agar and I have a question should I isolate starting with the ms in the syringe or take my biggest mushroom from this harvest and do a tissue transfer to agar to isolate. Let me know what you guys think

06/16/2015


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21850612 - 06/24/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

UPDATE 3 weeks after the MS inoculation and 8 days after last pic here we are now

06/24/2015


I've decided to just leave them alone and only check once a week for contams but before I made this decision I actually made some LI and I am going to test out how much time it will save me if I inoculated with LI instead of MS. I have 2 more 1lb grain spawn inbound and I am going to inject them both with 4 ccs one MS one LI



Honestly guys I'm excited new and just experimenting like crazy and as for end goals I want a few monotubs like 3-5 stacked fruiting while a few grains are colonizing in a never ending cycle. Who knows might even give sclerotia a shot as well I'm just not that patient for it lol any input would be greatly appreciated guys.

PS I'm using the last of my spore syringe. I have another full syringe of LI left but I plan to isolate on agar from my first flush of mush I get from this grow.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21851015 - 06/24/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I always thought light as a pinning trigger was a myth because in nature spores and myc are exposed to light daily I think it just triggers the directon of growth but what do I know. So I think I will follow the 12/12 schedule.




You are correct.  It is okay if light hits your spawn bags or spawn jars.  What can cause your spawn to think its fruiting time is too much GE.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: shroomyaxn]
    #21876443 - 06/30/15 03:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

06/30/2015


Hey guys I need help how far along do you guys think I am and when should I mix with bulk substrate in a monotub. Thanks guys


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21877685 - 06/30/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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06/24/2015







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06/30/2015


Hey guys I need help how far along do you guys think I am and when should I mix with bulk substrate in a monotub. Thanks guys




I think a day or 2 after the 6/24 picture you were good to go.  So yup, i would spawn to mono ASAP.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: shroomyaxn]
    #21881487 - 07/01/15 02:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think a day or 2 after the 6/24 picture you were good to go.  So yup, i would spawn to mono ASAP.




Thanks shroomyaxn first thing in the morning I will mix with bulk in mono how long should I let the mono colonize before introducing it to fruiting conditions from what I've been reading it seems about 10 days or should I just wait until the mono is 100% colonized, I'm probably not going to case it.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21881498 - 07/01/15 03:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Same as before, wait for it to fully colonize then introduce to fresh air :thumbup: No need to case cubes either


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: Yerow]
    #21882086 - 07/01/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just threw my spawn in the tubs with bulk mixed them up and they're ready. I made a rookie mistake and lined the tub with a black garbage bag so how would I be able to tell if it's fully colonized should I  just wait for the top to fully colonize and than give it like a week to consolidate just to be safe or am I just worrying too much lol thanks a bunch for all your help guys


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21882152 - 07/01/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yep, wait for the top to colonize fully, if you have mixed it proper it should be all colonized by then, but you can give it a few more days to be sure :thumbup:


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: Yerow]
    #21882209 - 07/01/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I believe your supposed to line bottom with garbage bag to prevent side pinning I also believe once top is colonized it should be good to go for fruiting don't think you need another week for consolidation


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: Grim767]
    #21885604 - 07/01/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Will update in 10 days let the mycelium rest and colonize hopefully everything is great then


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21888310 - 07/02/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Couldn't help but take a peek at the tubs and my the mycelium greatly recovered only one day after mixing with the bulk. I'm super excited.

7/2/2105


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21888356 - 07/02/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Looks like you used a lot of spawn for that tub.  What was your ratio?


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: TravelAgency]
    #21888641 - 07/02/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm doing the exact same grow you are doing and thought of using a mono as well. Was just curious on what size tub you used.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: SmokeIfUGottem]
    #21888716 - 07/02/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Looks like you used a lot of spawn for that tub.  What was your ratio?



Well I bought prepasteurized from a vendor but it's 1lb spawn to 2.5lb sub but one tub is of a smaller size.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21888739 - 07/02/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh wow, ok- that shouldn't take long to colonize! I just did 1/12 and 1/6 to compare how they perform- but a totally different Tek. Excited to see how that turns out!


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: SmokeIfUGottem]
    #21889090 - 07/02/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm doing the exact same grow you are doing and thought of using a mono as well. Was just curious on what size tub you used.




Not sure I ripped off the stickers but they were pretty small I only paid like $4 at a discount store


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21904914 - 07/06/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Update should I introduce FAE now or wait a little more I'm kind of anxious and can't wait lol even though I know this is a hobby of patience

7/6/2015


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21904926 - 07/06/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

1st one yes, 2nd one no.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: spacechildo]
    #21905027 - 07/06/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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1st one yes, 2nd one no.




OK putting the 1st one to fruit I'll probably wait 3 more days for the second one. Thanks for everyone's help guys


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21932600 - 07/12/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Update guys both of my tubs are at the first stages of knotting and pinning I can even see my first shroom

7/12/2015
My two tubs


And drumroll please lol my first self grown mush lol I don't even care if it aborts I'm just so happy I got this far


Question on average how long does it take from pinning to full maturity?


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21932697 - 07/12/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

About a 1 week


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21933055 - 07/12/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Great job man and right on schedule. A tad over a month :thumbup: feels great seeing your first tub pin doesn't it ! You are now hooked , and wait till you see them mature. Best part
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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: mycomaniac1402]
    #21935187 - 07/12/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Great job man and right on schedule. A tad over a month :thumbup: feels great seeing your first tub pin doesn't it ! You are now hooked , and wait till you see them mature. Best part
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Definitely hooked I have 2 more bags colonizing and im going to take my best shroom and make a spore print for long term storage and a live tissue clone on agar and isolate and create a perpetual and bigger grow but I'm getting ahead of myself first I need a PC


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21944742 - 07/15/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE
7/15/2015


Not the most even pinset but still I'm amazed at the plentiful pinning for my first grow these bad boys should be done in another week I'm guessing.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21944926 - 07/15/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Full pin sets don't happen every time brother. Thats not bad at all :thumbup: just make sure they dont dry out, mist them LIGHTLY but make sure they dont get saturated. Keep doing what your doing.


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: mycomaniac1402]
    #21952106 - 07/16/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gunna do daily or bidaily updates until harvest cuz they are growing quite quickly lol and forget about me saying not a full pinset shit is getting fuller by the day lol

7/16/2015


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21952187 - 07/16/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

looking good, but you can still pump up the FAE!


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: spacechildo]
    #21952743 - 07/16/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Everything seems to be going good, I love that pinset. Every grow I see of B+ seems to produce some densely packed large mushrooms. I'll have to try my hand at some B+ pretty soon. Nice work.

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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: MagicInMichigan]
    #21952887 - 07/16/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well done man! Totally inspiring.

I am waiting on my spores for my first grow as well. I hope to be as fortunate as you. I'm going to spend the night reading teks until my eyes bleed....again :wink:


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: MagicInMichigan]
    #21954513 - 07/17/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Everything seems to be going good, I love that pinset. Every grow I see of B+ seems to produce some densely packed large mushrooms. I'll have to try my hand at some B+ pretty soon. Nice work.

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Well if your interested when I harvest I'm going to make spore prints if you want to try your hand at b+ wouldn't mind sending you a print. Do you have any prints, I would be willing to do an exchange of sorts. I want to try different strains but do not wanna spend on spore syringes lol


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: pitbullfan]
    #21954516 - 07/17/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Well done man! Totally inspiring.

I am waiting on my spores for my first grow as well. I hope to be as fortunate as you. I'm going to spend the night reading teks until my eyes bleed....again :wink:




Go for it man I read so many posts here about  how noob should start pf tek and I just dove head first into bulk honestly just be sterile and over cautious with sterility and you will be fine. Good luck


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21955373 - 07/17/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE 7/17/2015


I am actually growing two tubs guys one is a few days behind the other one but if anyone is interested in that tub here ya go



This tub has more mutants and more fuzzy feet having a little trouble dialing in the mono for the right fae so in the mean time I'm fanning like crazy


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21955494 - 07/17/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you still want way more FAE!


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: spacechildo]
    #21955550 - 07/17/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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you still want way more FAE!




I have a fan pointed towards it unless I remove the polyfill or the lid completely idk how to give it more fae except increasing my frequency of fanning it


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21955591 - 07/17/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

take out some polyfill. its not all or nothing.
and you need some bigger bottom holes. what are those, 1/4"?


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: spacechildo]
    #21955606 - 07/17/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
take out some polyfill. its not all or nothing.
and you need some bigger bottom holes. what are those, 1/4"?




Done and they're half in holess but it is a small tub honestly


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Re: First GrowLog B+ [Re: DMoney718]
    #21959903 - 07/18/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE
7/18/2015


If they look wet they just got misted also I hear the best time to harvest is just when the veil starts breaking or breaks. But I want to take spore prints so I want to wait until the cap flattens out more. Does this wait affect potenCy and if so is it a drastic change in potency


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