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An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar.
    #21764678 - 06/05/15 06:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey, all. I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia/Bipolar (they aren't sure) 4 years ago. Here is a brief history, so you understand my situation better.

During my 4 years of college, i used cannabis, shrooms, lsd and mdma in moderation with my gf or friends or by myself. I used them for mind exploration, spirituality and recreation. I cured myself of social anxiety at that time, which returned later after i got ill. Life was brilliant and magical, until I had a break up with my gf and started seeing another girl. The new girl cheated on me, and my life started spiraling downwards. I started abusing cannabis with a 'friend', and had 2-3 bad trips on LSD cause of a bad setting, during a span of 2 years after my college. The stress, loneliness and abuse finally got to me and I had a psychotic episode. I was put in a rehab for a month and sobered up since then. I tried using cannabis 2 years ago, but it didn't go too well, cannabis makes me paranoid and causes psychosis in me. Instead of cannabis, i tried kratom, and it suited me just fine. At present, I use kratom once or twice a week without any issues.

Its been 4 years since my diagnosis and I'm now almost 'normal' according to the doctors. I've battled it out with meditation and exercise. I've not tripped for the last 5 years. I'm contemplating an LSD trip in a healthy set and setting to give me a final push out of my illness, and to work on other areas of my life. I'd like to feel magical once more, I'd like an insight into my life and my career.

Can you guys suggest whether i should carry this plan out or not?? Has any of you gone through a similar ordeal as mine?? Are any of you schizophrenic/bipolar folks out there treated their illness with LSD or shrooms??


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21765325 - 06/05/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Psychedelics can bring out underlying mental health issues in many cases, so most people on here are gonna suggest you to stay away from LSD as it could make your road to sanity quite a bit harder.

But if I told you it had no possibility to work I'd be lying. So about two years ago I was experiencing this pretty terrible mental breakdown. I'd experience these super depressing lows that would cause schizophrenic symptoms. The psychiatrist said I had some form of schizoaffective disorder.

I only smoked some weed at that time. But my girlfriend helped me the best she could, and I was doing the okay, but some days it was pretty damn tough to try and live normally. Anyways, after my full blown psychosis I experienced for almost half a year, I'd still get these mini schizophrenic episodes, and it sucked.

I tried shrooms and the depressive lows disappeared. As did all signs of my mental health problems. My trips were the most healing thing that could have happened. I still feel great mentally, and haven't suffered any mental problems for about 7 months.

Now there are risks for using psychedelic substances if you have even the slightest mental health problem. There is a possibility that you could worsen your mental health. But psychedelics have only ever helped me. The psychiatrist says I'm pretty much normal now as well.

Stay safe man, hope you keep getting better :hug:


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Achillita]
    #21765478 - 06/05/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was never diagnosed with schizophrenia or any other serious medical condition but throughout the years there has been significant periods of time where I have fought with pretty severe depression. During those times of depression I still used cannabis & mushrooms daily/weekly. I think the only thing you can do to try to prevent a bad experience is be in a good frame of mind that day & trip in an extremely comfortable setting. Another huge factor I'd say is doseage. If you are apprehensive about doing LSD again in fear that you may have a "bad trip" I would start off with perhaps a half a hit. Now after all those things are checked off the list, ask yourself... Is the chance of having a bad trip worth the chance of having a good trip. I know that sounds kind of harsh but if the answer is no then hold off until you know in your mind that you are absolutely ready.

As you know I'm sure, psychedelics really bring out anything & everything that is in your mind. The experience is so intertwined with who you are, what makes you YOU, & your deepest thoughts so it has the potential to bring forth some past life events that you may have forgotten over time.

I hope you have a safe journey my friend. Hope to hear from you soon. Have a wonderful day. :smile:


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Achillita]
    #21765749 - 06/05/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Achillita said:
Psychedelics can bring out underlying mental health issues in many cases, so most people on here are gonna suggest you to stay away from LSD as it could make your road to sanity quite a bit harder.

But if I told you it had no possibility to work I'd be lying. So about two years ago I was experiencing this pretty terrible mental breakdown. I'd experience these super depressing lows that would cause schizophrenic symptoms. The psychiatrist said I had some form of schizoaffective disorder.

I only smoked some weed at that time. But my girlfriend helped me the best she could, and I was doing the okay, but some days it was pretty damn tough to try and live normally. Anyways, after my full blown psychosis I experienced for almost half a year, I'd still get these mini schizophrenic episodes, and it sucked.

I tried shrooms and the depressive lows disappeared. As did all signs of my mental health problems. My trips were the most healing thing that could have happened. I still feel great mentally, and haven't suffered any mental problems for about 7 months.

Now there are risks for using psychedelic substances if you have even the slightest mental health problem. There is a possibility that you could worsen your mental health. But psychedelics have only ever helped me. The psychiatrist says I'm pretty much normal now as well.

Stay safe man, hope you keep getting better :hug:






Hey, thanks for your reply. It's really good to know your shroom trip helped you out. Could you tell me what kind of a psychosis you had? Did you have any delusions? Were you ever put on anti psychotics?

What was your set and setting for the trip?

Weed was the culprit in your case as well? I mainly turned psychotic due to cannabis abuse after my breakup.

I'm hoping for such a healing trip as well, on a low dosage of LSD. Around 150mics, will split the cube into half, so roughly dose 75mics initially, then the remaining.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21765781 - 06/05/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I was never diagnosed with schizophrenia or any other serious medical condition but throughout the years there has been significant periods of time where I have fought with pretty severe depression. During those times of depression I still used cannabis & mushrooms daily/weekly. I think the only thing you can do to try to prevent a bad experience is be in a good frame of mind that day & trip in an extremely comfortable setting. Another huge factor I'd say is doseage. If you are apprehensive about doing LSD again in fear that you may have a "bad trip" I would start off with perhaps a half a hit. Now after all those things are checked off the list, ask yourself... Is the chance of having a bad trip worth the chance of having a good trip. I know that sounds kind of harsh but if the answer is no then hold off until you know in your mind that you are absolutely ready.

As you know I'm sure, psychedelics really bring out anything & everything that is in your mind. The experience is so intertwined with who you are, what makes you YOU, & your deepest thoughts so it has the potential to bring forth some past life events that you may have forgotten over time.

I hope you have a safe journey my friend. Hope to hear from you soon. Have a wonderful day. :smile:




I have a gut feeling that my trip will be a good one since I have almost recovered from my illness. My illness wasn't that severe, I never had any auditory or visual hallucinations, only delusions. I can go out in public without any issues. Yes, I'll split the dose into half and have the other half later. I just hope to have the right set and setting for it.

Any idea if I could make sure beforehand that my trip would be a good one? I'm still unsure whether I want to do this. Would consuming kratom at the start of the trip relax me?

Thanks for taking the time to reply and for your kind wishes.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21766003 - 06/05/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have become interested in psychedelics, but I have paranoid schizophrenia and I have to take different medicine (quetiapine and ziprasidone) worth of 530 mg every day to maintain. As soon as I quit, the voices follow and soon I start to create wild conspiracy theories, science fiction stories, etc. which I cannot help but believe, you know the thrill. I've experienced a lot of distortion but I've never hallucinated visual, never had a trip. I haven't smoked pot. In my family tree there are no people with schizophrenia, so it's a bit strange.

Anyway, I would like to try psychedelics, I wouldn't trust LSD. I think I'll just start from really small doses and see how that makes me feel. There are some questions like: does this differ from a normal person using psychedelics? Do the meds I take affect? but I guess I'll find the answers to some of those questions by experimenting.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Signoir]
    #21766865 - 06/05/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Greetings again man. Glad to hear back from you.

I don't think there is any way to 100% garuntee a good trip but there are definitely some ways you can try to prepare for a trip. I know this might seem hard especially the time frame when you're waiting for effects to kick in but try to stay calm. A good way to stay calm is by staying involved in something that will hold your interest. Try putting on one of your favorite shows right after you drop your LSD. Or maybe play a video game to keep your mind going & not stuck on the thought of "when is this going to kick in?"

I'm not sure if kratom would relax you at the start of the trip. There may be a chance it will though since some kratom strains are a sedating type. Try having some xanax on hand in case your trip starts getting too intense for you to handle. They will mellow you out for sure but at the expense of "dulling out" the trip so I would only use them if you felt like you absolutely needed to. Another thing I heard that will dull out a trip although I am not sure if it works is eating a lot of sugar. I heard Terence Mckenna on a video saying when a trip starts getting rough never go into the fetal position instead stand up & start to sing. The xanax would definitely be your best bet though in case you needed to abort the trip.

I am sort of in the same boat as you right now man. I have done mushrooms many times. But only done LSD once. Currently I have these purple gel tabs that everyone is raving about but I haven't even tried them yet & I've had them for a little over two months! I was extremely apprehensive of taking them because of a really bad mushroom trip that happened about 3 months ago. The last thing I wanted to have happen was relive a torturous, terrorizing trip from hell. But with the way I feel as of today & have been feeling the past week or so I think I am ready to do these gel tabs very, very soon.

I'm sending a whole lot of love, peace, & good vibes your way my dude. I think everything will go as planned for you as long as you stay calm & stick to a low dose. Hope to hear back from you.

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21768011 - 06/05/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey, thanks for your reply. It's really good to know your shroom trip helped you out. Could you tell me what kind of a psychosis you had? Did you have any delusions? Were you ever put on anti psychotics?

What was your set and setting for the trip?

Weed was the culprit in your case as well? I mainly turned psychotic due to cannabis abuse after my breakup.

I'm hoping for such a healing trip as well, on a low dosage of LSD. Around 150mics, will split the cube into half, so roughly dose 75mics initially, then the remaining.



I had auditory hallucinations of voices, quite often. But I could sometimes try and drown them out.

I was not put on psychotics, as I kinda refused to take them and my family accepted that with me.

I did have delusions, but they varied quite a bit. I had mild delusions like everyone would hate me, or wanted to kill me. I did have some crazy delusions that I thought a few of the games that I played were coming to life. Some days I could realize that they weren't real and stop them, but some other days I'd get so pulled into the delusions. The voices actually got me not to tell anyone at the time, until I finally did and went to the psychiatrist.

The setting for my trips were just my room and some music alone. I did walk around my house, but I had a great time that helped me even greater. Since my first mushroom trip, Any mental problems have completely disappeared. I feel much better about myself, and everything.

Oh and the cannabis did not cause it, It was just a slow buildup from depression I had been having.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Achillita]
    #21768207 - 06/05/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The thing with psychedelics, particularly mushrooms, is we don't know what they are really doing because no one has researched them yet (they're illegal even to medicine). I say particularly mushrooms because when I was focusing on something on mushrooms once I felt this awesome, healthy, regenerative and tickly feeling in my head and I noticed right away I felt better. The mind is a strange thing, the body-mind connection is unknown, but it looks like magic mushrooms can set off a spontaneous regeneration of the brain if it is damaged and the intelligence of the body, equipped with the sacred presence of the mushroom, somehow lets the body know exactly how to do its work.

There is no matter, only consciousness. You are made of consciousness. If you put an alkaloid in your brain that changes consciousness who knows what can happen. I'm saying here, this can.

If you heal your brain, well, schizophrenia is pretty much just brain damage...


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21768426 - 06/06/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was once told that I had a "nervous breakdown". I was committed to a mental hospital for 1 & 1/2 months. This happened after ingesting some very strong Psychedelics. I was extremely out of it for about 1 month. The problem was that I wasn't eating practically at all. After I started eating, I realized that simply eating food was "bringing me back". I kept on eating and became pretty much normal almost immediately. The doctors, however, kept saying that I was out of it - even though I wasn't. I was released without their approval. They wanted me to take thorazine and said I'd go back to being crazy if I didn't. I was afraid and kept taking it for awhile. But then I started doubting more and more that the doctors knew what they were talking about.

I stopped taking the thorazine and started ingesting Psychedelics again. I had one more episode where I "flipped-out" and ended up in the mental hospital. But this time I knew right away to start eating and I was released within 2 weeks.

I then started learning how to eat properly - using the right nutrition -- and NO thorazine (which is really bad for your physical health).

I've never had another problem.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: circastes]
    #21769629 - 06/06/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The thing with psychedelics, particularly mushrooms, is we don't know what they are really doing because no one has researched them yet (they're illegal even to medicine). I say particularly mushrooms because when I was focusing on something on mushrooms once I felt this awesome, healthy, regenerative and tickly feeling in my head and I noticed right away I felt better. The mind is a strange thing, the body-mind connection is unknown, but it looks like magic mushrooms can set off a spontaneous regeneration of the brain if it is damaged and the intelligence of the body, equipped with the sacred presence of the mushroom, somehow lets the body know exactly how to do its work.

There is no matter, only consciousness. You are made of consciousness. If you put an alkaloid in your brain that changes consciousness who knows what can happen. I'm saying here, this can.

If you heal your brain, well, schizophrenia is pretty much just brain damage...




Would LSD have a similar healing effect like shrooms?

My brain isn't damaged, I've got several scans done and shown them to various doctors. Most doctors say I'm almost normal


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Q.I]
    #21769655 - 06/06/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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But then I started doubting more and more that the doctors knew what they were talking about.

I stopped taking the thorazine and started ingesting Psychedelics again. I had one more episode where I "flipped-out" and ended up in the mental hospital. But this time I knew right away to start eating and I was released within 2 weeks.

I then started learning how to eat properly - using the right nutrition -- and NO thorazine (which is really bad for your physical health).

I've never had another problem.




Doctors over prescribe medicines most of the time. At times the medicines are useful, especially in the early stages.

Yeah, eating right, exercising and meditation helped me a lot as well.

Did you trip on LSD after all your problems got over? How was the trip? Did it help you move forward in life?


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21769717 - 06/06/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Greetings again man. Glad to hear back from you.

I'm not sure if kratom would relax you at the start of the trip. There may be a chance it will though since some kratom strains are a sedating type. Try having some xanax on hand in case your trip starts getting too intense for you to handle.

I am sort of in the same boat as you right now man. I have done mushrooms many times. But only done LSD once. Currently I have these purple gel tabs that everyone is raving about but I haven't even tried them yet & I've had them for a little over two months! I was extremely apprehensive of taking them because of a really bad mushroom trip that happened about 3 months ago. The last thing I wanted to have happen was relive a torturous, terrorizing trip from hell. But with the way I feel as of today & have been feeling the past week or so I think I am ready to do these gel tabs very, very soon.

I'm sending a whole lot of love, peace, & good vibes your way my dude. I think everything will go as planned for you as long as you stay calm & stick to a low dose. Hope to hear back from you.

:lsdabc:  :psychsplit:




Hey brah, I've got the red Sumatra kratom that is the sedating type, as well as the green Malay kratom. The sedating one completely relaxes me, so if I take it before hand, I'd be in a relaxed state already and that would avoid a bad trip. Also, I have Olanzapine at hand just in case my trip goes bad, to abort it. But I have a feeling if at all I trip, it's going to be all sunshine. Do you think some mdma at the end of the trip would make me feel and heal even better??

If you had your bad trip just 3 months ago, my suggestion is don't trip yet. Bad trips teach a lot and they point out a lot of your insecurities, addictions and other flaws. So my suggestion is integrate into your life what you've learned from your previous trips, and then proceed to tripping than instantly tripping now. That is where I went wrong in the past.

Thanks a ton for the love, peace and good vibes bro. Sending you the same feelings :smile:


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Achillita]
    #21769833 - 06/06/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

mothamaruti said:

Hey, thanks for your reply. It's really good to know your shroom trip helped you out. Could you tell me what kind of a psychosis you had? Did you have any delusions? Were you ever put on anti psychotics?

What was your set and setting for the trip?

Weed was the culprit in your case as well? I mainly turned psychotic due to cannabis abuse after my breakup.

I'm hoping for such a healing trip as well, on a low dosage of LSD. Around 150mics, will split the cube into half, so roughly dose 75mics initially, then the remaining.



I had auditory hallucinations of voices, quite often. But I could sometimes try and drown them out.

I was not put on psychotics, as I kinda refused to take them and my family accepted that with me.

The setting for my trips were just my room and some music alone. I did walk around my house, but I had a great time that helped me even greater. Since my first mushroom trip, Any mental problems have completely disappeared. I feel much better about myself, and everything.





Did you use shrooms or LSD for healing? At present I have access only to LSD, would that work as well? I remember from my tripping days that i found shrooms to be a little more spiritual. Also, did you feel lonely tripping alone?? That's my main fear.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21770558 - 06/06/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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But then I started doubting more and more that the doctors knew what they were talking about.

I stopped taking the thorazine and started ingesting Psychedelics again. I had one more episode where I "flipped-out" and ended up in the mental hospital. But this time I knew right away to start eating and I was released within 2 weeks.

I then started learning how to eat properly - using the right nutrition -- and NO thorazine (which is really bad for your physical health).

I've never had another problem.




Doctors over prescribe medicines most of the time. At times the medicines are useful, especially in the early stages.

Yeah, eating right, exercising and meditation helped me a lot as well.

Did you trip on LSD after all your problems got over? How was the trip? Did it help you move forward in life?




Yes, I ingested LSD - but I am more into Tryptamines. I also believe that Psychedelics are the "Flesh of God".

I used to believe the same things as most people about God and Christ, etc. But Psychedelics guided through the horrors to the realization. I saw that my former spiritual beliefs were very responsible for my mental breakdowns.

The spiritual understanding was the guide that led to recovery.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Q.I]
    #21772577 - 06/07/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Did you get an fMRI or something that is a FUNCTIONAL (the 'f') scan? It detects brain glucose levels somehow. You would find deactivation in certain areas, surely.

The sort of damage I'm talking about is like, regions or patterns of dead cells that wouldn't show up as lesions.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: circastes]
    #21772580 - 06/07/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh you're the guy that PM'd me about this. Sorry if the convo broke down or I forgot to msg back.

I think the idea I had in my head, my friend, is that you were looking for an excuse to trip despite risks.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: circastes]
    #21772618 - 06/07/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

schizophrenia makes you ungrounded in reality, and then you take another drug that makes you even more ungrounded

It might not end up good

LSD helped me heal my depression, but it caused as much bad as good , shrooms cause as much bad as good for me too

There's a down to every up.

So you could get there without the drug, meditate alone in nature, don't pay attention to your thoughts, let thoughts come and go

Always helps me when I feel low, it's the best way I know, and I had depression for 16 years - even though I thought I was happy/content, but your smile never lies :-)


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: circastes]
    #21772705 - 06/07/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Did you get an fMRI or something that is a FUNCTIONAL (the 'f') scan? It detects brain glucose levels somehow. You would find deactivation in certain areas, surely.

The sort of damage I'm talking about is like, regions or patterns of dead cells that wouldn't show up as lesions.




I've gotten several brain scans done according to what the doctors asked my family, and the doctors told me my brain is not damaged, period.

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I think the idea I had in my head, my friend, is that you were looking for an excuse to trip despite risks.




I've been contemplating this trip for the last 3 years, and I'm not doing it at impulse. Most of my previous trips improved my life greatly and brought a lot of magic and adventure in my life. I've waited for almost full recovery before I tripped again, and haven't tripped for the last 4-5 years. I've made this post to see if anyone out there went through a similar ordeal like me and managed to have a life altering trip after that. Please note, I'm not your full blown schizophrenic or bipolar that has lost touch with reality, I'm a normal person who's had an acute psychosis in the past. I'm still weighing the pros and cons and contemplating whether to do this, for that I'm looking for others opinions and experiences.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21777185 - 06/08/15 03:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Any more experiences guys? I'm sure quite a few have gone through this adversity. Please share, along with advice. I'm in no hurry to trip until I'm absolutely sure


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21781457 - 06/09/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My fear was that I was going to suggest to someone which if I recall was going to inherit a lot from his parents and be able to live a sweet, sweet life, that they take a compound that might aggravate something underlying. They could also do their brain a lot of good but I'm not sure if I wanted to go with this 50-50 when they'd get better anyway.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: circastes]
    #21781599 - 06/09/15 02:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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circastes said:
My fear was that I was going to suggest to someone which if I recall was going to inherit a lot from his parents and be able to live a sweet, sweet life, that they take a compound that might aggravate something underlying. They could also do their brain a lot of good but I'm not sure if I wanted to go with this 50-50 when they'd get better anyway.




Yes, you're right. That's me. But I was thinking using Lucy once in a blue moon would be a part of that 'sweet,sweet' life :smile::)

I mean I've abstained for 5 years now, and have almost recovered, it might actually do some good and bring back magic into my life.

Anyway, I've not made my decision final and am waiting for people to share more experiences, before I even go near LSD.

Any, idea what would be safer and therapeutic, LSD or mdma/e?


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    #21781694 - 06/09/15 04:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

An interesting link related to this thread

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21791549 - 06/11/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Come on guys, I'm sure some of you have gone through psychosis, and recovered from it. Give me advice and share your experiences here in this thread.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21793263 - 06/11/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey man,

I'm Bipolar and I wouldn't suggest acid after so long. I'm close to 3 years acid free.

I would recommend mushrooms though. They're healthier in my opinion and don't need much time recovering.

If the trip on acid goes bad, it affects me for a long while. I had to stop for the same reasons, it threw my disorder off the roof, I couldn't keep going.

Mushrooms temporarily cure me. They stabilize me even after I come down for a good while.

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    #21793395 - 06/11/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

^

By no means am I saying you're full of it but that is weird that you say that. I have never done LSD, I do mushrooms once a week though. A lot of people here on the shroomery, I have read, say that LSD is easier on the mind when compared to mushrooms. The way I hear a lot of people compare the two is like LSD is friendly, colorful, & happy. & mushrooms are more unpredictable, provoking, & self analyzing. Like I said, I have never done LSD but I have done my fair share of mushrooms & I can definitely say that sometimes they are pretty unpredictable & provoking.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21793719 - 06/11/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Giving recommendations to people spiritually requires a lot of clearheadedness and responsibility

I don't think you fall into the responsible part HerbalJunkie


Anything can go bad with mushrooms, and same with LSD if you got mental illness predisposition. It can be very dangerous.
It is false that mushrooms are less dangerous because of less length or less time recovering. The recovery time seems to be about the same for mushrooms/LSD for me - after many of each.

LSD is usually more clearheaded, but that doesn't make it any less dangerous.

Mushrooms give me bad trips much easier. I would definitely not recommend mushrooms to any with mental illness - unless I felt like I had to.

I trust my feelings, but my thoughts say no on this matter...

They have the potential to help people, or break people completely very easily too.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: lessismore]
    #21808390 - 06/14/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You remind me of myself 3 months ago.
I posted on this forum a very similar question about curing my depression with a psychedelic trip after 1,5 years of not touching psychedelics.
I don't like to give huge long ass replies to questions but the topic of psychedelics is just that complicated, but my most direct advice I can give you is:
Do the trip if you want, but do it without any predetermined expectations towards it and take it as it comes.

My trip story:
Before the trip I expected it to be "a beautiful trip of reflecting upon the past and then watching it vanish so I can live my life happily ever after." or something like that.

However once I actually was in the trip everything backfired and the "Reflection upon the past" ended up with the past facefucking me in a fire of psychedelic inferno.
So during the trip it was just a depressing hell of the past attacking me and sliding down a hole of insanity until I eventually started coming to grip with my situation so I could finally start to crawl out of it again.
But ironically now 3 months afterwards I can actually say that those 6 torturous hours paradoxically helped me get myself together by letting me intensely face the worst of the pain that I otherwise would have had to carry for months, years or who knows how long?
And while I still can't say that I'm totally free of it I feel more at peace just knowing that dwelling upon it will just yield infinite, endless pain.

So I suppose I watched the past vanish; In a fire fueled by my traumatic past and lit by 2.5g Shrooms.

"As time passes
Things change every day
But wounds, wounds heal, but scars still remain the same
But tomorrow today's going down in flames
Throw the match, set the past ablaze."
-Eminem, Beautiful Pain.


So if you decide to do the trip I would recommend that you:
1. Keep your mind fresh, any thoughts you have before the trip will if nothing else happens STAY and just accelerate and get aggravated once you enter the trip.
2. Do Shrooms, not Acid. You do as you want but in my honest opinion Shrooms have A LOT more power when it comes to dealing with mental illnesses, they just feel SO much more authentic.
I no longer do Acid but I remember feeling more "Detached" and distracted from my emotions relative to Shrooms, great of recreational use but not so for spiritual use if you ask me.
3. Have fun. For fucks sake the whole purpose of taking psychedelics in the first place is to have an experience, treat it as such and there won't be any confusion. That applies to life in general.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: AnonLMN619]
    #21809071 - 06/15/15 02:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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AnonLMN619 said:
You remind me of myself 3 months ago.
I posted on this forum a very similar question about curing my depression with a psychedelic trip after 1,5 years of not touching psychedelics.
I don't like to give huge long ass replies to questions but the topic of psychedelics is just that complicated, but my most direct advice I can give you is:
Do the trip if you want, but do it without any predetermined expectations towards it and take it as it comes.

My trip story:
Before the trip I expected it to be "a beautiful trip of reflecting upon the past and then watching it vanish so I can live my life happily ever after." or something like that.

However once I actually was in the trip everything backfired and the "Reflection upon the past" ended up with the past facefucking me in a fire of psychedelic inferno.
So during the trip it was just a depressing hell of the past attacking me and sliding down a hole of insanity until I eventually started coming to grip with my situation so I could finally start to crawl out of it again.
But ironically now 3 months afterwards I can actually say that those 6 torturous hours paradoxically helped me get myself together by letting me intensely face the worst of the pain that I otherwise would have had to carry for months, years or who knows how long?
And while I still can't say that I'm totally free of it I feel more at peace just knowing that dwelling upon it will just yield infinite, endless pain.

So I suppose I watched the past vanish; In a fire fueled by my traumatic past and lit by 2.5g Shrooms.

"As time passes
Things change every day
But wounds, wounds heal, but scars still remain the same
But tomorrow today's going down in flames
Throw the match, set the past ablaze."
-Eminem, Beautiful Pain.


So if you decide to do the trip I would recommend that you:
1. Keep your mind fresh, any thoughts you have before the trip will if nothing else happens STAY and just accelerate and get aggravated once you enter the trip.
2. Do Shrooms, not Acid. You do as you want but in my honest opinion Shrooms have A LOT more power when it comes to dealing with mental illnesses, they just feel SO much more authentic.
I no longer do Acid but I remember feeling more "Detached" and distracted from my emotions relative to Shrooms, great of recreational use but not so for spiritual use if you ask me.
3. Have fun. For fucks sake the whole purpose of taking psychedelics in the first place is to have an experience, treat it as such and there won't be any confusion. That applies to life in general.




Thanks for sharing your experience. I think, I'm gonna go ahead and trip, my gut says it's alright. I'll definitely follow your tips.

The reason I'll be doing LSD and not shrooms is at present I can only get my hands on Lucy.

Another schizophrenic/bipolar who was much worse than me, tripped recently and had a lot of positive changes in his life, following the trip. I don't even show any symptoms of the illness anymore, it's just that I need that final push out from slight depression and feel the magic of life once more. My life used to be amazing when I used to trip on and off earlier. Also, I think it will help me contemplate about my career a little.

Worst case scenario, if I trip and cannot handle it (which I doubt) I pop an Olanzapine to end it. But I have a feeling, it's gonna be fine.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21812797 - 06/15/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm also contemplating a small/medium dose mdma/e trip. Do you think it could be a healing experience in the right set and setting??

Wouldn't MDMA/E be safer on the mental health to trip than shrooms/LSD, cause the latter can be unpredictable??

Would a solo MDMA/E trip be healing??


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    #21833487 - 06/20/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Okay, I tripped on mdma last night, did around 150mg. I had an intense trip for 5 hrs. I did it all by myself in my room with my pet Great Dane. I chatted with a few friends online, some of them I knew in person. I made a soft bed for myself with my Great Dane lying next to it. I connected the visualizer app on my iPad to the TV, and put on some tunes on my high quality headset connected to the iPod. I can say 80 percent of my trip was happy and I had a blast doing it. It was fun laying in bed, hugging my dog, dancing to music, having intimate chats with people, tripping near the TV while the visualizer was on.

Overall my experience was amazing, I feel healed, energetic and confident coming out from the trip. I'm more motivated in life as well.

My gamble worked =)


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21833520 - 06/20/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's good to hear man glad you enjoyed yourself. Stay healthy.


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    #21836600 - 06/21/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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That's good to hear man glad you enjoyed yourself. Stay healthy.




Thanks. I'm feeling extremely healed today, it wasn't just a recreational experience. I think mdma could be used in psychiatry. Magic has returned to my life, and I have a wonderful substance to use once in a blue moon. I think the set and setting plays a major role even for an mdma trip.

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21836750 - 06/21/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have diagnosed Bipolar disorder, and I can safely and confidently say that Lsd and psilocybin saved my life. The key to it all is set and setting.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: FractalMind]
    #21837075 - 06/21/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Im using LSD to induce a controlled form of skits - LSD promotes skitzo-like action.

I wouldn't do it. If you got that close without LSD - you don't need it now - it can be VERY risky - potentially resulting in a complete relapse.

You don't need LSD bro, if you wanna talk and have an outside perspective on your next steps either reply or pm me


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: glimpee]
    #21837190 - 06/21/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Im using LSD to induce a controlled form of skits - LSD promotes skitzo-like action.

I wouldn't do it. If you got that close without LSD - you don't need it now - it can be VERY risky - potentially resulting in a complete relapse.

You don't need LSD bro, if you wanna talk and have an outside perspective on your next steps either reply or pm me




I've sent you a pm.

After reading my experience with mdma do you guys think I could use it in a safe set and setting, 1-3 times a year? I mean I had a brilliant time !


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: FractalMind]
    #21837220 - 06/21/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I have diagnosed Bipolar disorder, and I can safely and confidently say that Lsd and psilocybin saved my life. The key to it all is set and setting.





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    #21848549 - 06/24/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was diagnosed as add when I was younger, forced to be on add meds (speed) throughout my whole childhood, was punished when I didn't take that shit... started having issues with depression a few years in to that, due to issues at school, became a cutter, started to show suicidal tendencies diagnosed Bipolar, fast forward till now I have been in psych hospital 5  times, and a 30-day stint in rehab for various suicidal, and violent outbursts. Recently, after rehab and before my last hospitalization, I have had 1 mushroom trip, and 1 lsd trip in particular that have truly showed me the errors of my younger years. They have showed me I am a valuable person. They have showed me that there is a plan. I have been able to learn guitar, I have been incredibly blessed with the opportunity to blow glass with someone who learned from Snodgrass! I attribute all of my hopes, and dreams to the psychedelic experience. But I must say, the key is set and setting. Being in the right place, in the right mindset has EVERYTHING to do with the outcome. ESPECIALLY for someone with mental illness. It can be the difference between a scarring psychotic episode  (this happened to me, all to do with poor set/setting), and a completely mystical, ineffable, and life - changing experience.

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    #21849050 - 06/24/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I was diagnosed as add when I was younger, forced to be on add meds (speed) throughout my whole childhood, was punished when I didn't take that shit... started having issues with depression a few years in to that, due to issues at school, became a cutter, started to show suicidal tendencies diagnosed Bipolar, fast forward till now I have been in psych hospital 5  times, and a 30-day stint in rehab for various suicidal, and violent outbursts. Recently, after rehab and before my last hospitalization, I have had 1 mushroom trip, and 1 lsd trip in particular that have truly showed me the errors of my younger years. They have showed me I am a valuable person. They have showed me that there is a plan. I have been able to learn guitar, I have been incredibly blessed with the opportunity to blow glass with someone who learned from Snodgrass! I attribute all of my hopes, and dreams to the psychedelic experience. But I must say, the key is set and setting. Being in the right place, in the right mindset has EVERYTHING to do with the outcome. ESPECIALLY for someone with mental illness. It can be the difference between a scarring psychotic episode  (this happened to me, all to do with poor set/setting), and a completely mystical, ineffable, and life - changing experience.

Much Love




Brilliant post. My gut instinct says shrooms will be good for me as well. Thankfully my condition never worsened to the extent where I had to be hospitalised. I was always fine on meds and currently on one of the lowest dose of Olanzapine, thankfully it never interfered with my trip.

You should try a 150mg mdma trip sometime, it really healed me and released trauma from my past. It helps as long as you don't abuse it. I'm feeling the magic re-entering my life. I show absolutely no signs of illness anymore and have become very motivated about my career. Make sure your set and setting is extremely comfortable

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21872055 - 06/29/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Okay guys, my experience with mdma was absolutely brilliant and healing. What do you recommend next? I've been contemplating a lot about DMT cause it's a 10min thing only, I know it is extremely powerful though.

Do you think I should dabble in dmt or simply stick to my newfound magic of mdma for now?

Any of you recovered schizophrenics/bipolars have had experience with dmt?


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21872269 - 06/29/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've done DMT a few times, but I don't really have much to say about it honestly. I've only done it a handful of times, and never had a breakthrough. My most intense time I thought I was dieing because I burnt my throat from the DMT.

I think you could try acid or mushrooms, I'd just stay in the lower dose area for your first time. I wouldn't recommend using ecstasy too often though. Most people say it loses its magic very fast.

Personally I'd suggest shrooms, as they are always the most amazing things for me. LSD makes me feel to drained mentally afterwards.

But if you were to try DMT, I think it'd be completely fine. But I suggest getting one of those oil/meth pipes. I haven't used one, but they are able to vaporize without directly inhaling the flame.


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    #21872893 - 06/29/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've done DMT a few times, but I don't really have much to say about it honestly. I've only done it a handful of times, and never had a breakthrough. My most intense time I thought I was dieing because I burnt my throat from the DMT.

I think you could try acid or mushrooms, I'd just stay in the lower dose area for your first time. I wouldn't recommend using ecstasy too often though. Most people say it loses its magic very fast.

Personally I'd suggest shrooms, as they are always the most amazing things for me. LSD makes me feel to drained mentally afterwards.

But if you were to try DMT, I think it'd be completely fine. But I suggest getting one of those oil/meth pipes. I haven't used one, but they are able to vaporize without directly inhaling the flame.




Yes, I plan to use ecstasy/mdma a max of 1-4 times a year with minimum 3 months of gap. That will keep the magic alive. My last trip was more intense and magical than any of my previous trips. I did the ecstasy/mdma after 5 years of abstinence. I think this substance has amazing healing power

I planned on smoking the DMT in a regular glass pipe. Yes, I'll use it at a lower dose. Can I put some tobacco at the bottom of the pipe and dmt on top? Is DMT healing as well?

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #21872928 - 06/29/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Plenty of people smoke DMT in a regular pipe using the sandwich method. Pretty much put either some herb or ash on the bottom, and some ash/herb on the top. Try and smoke it as much as you can.

Well a gram of DMT can last either 20 times, at 50 mgs. Or it can last 40 times at 25 mgs. It's all depending on your dosage, and whether or not you drop or waste any.

I haven't had enough experience with DMT, but many people say DMT is very healing.

Have you heard of changa? You could make your own changa blend. I've heard it's more healing, like a shorter ayahuasca trip.


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    #21879522 - 06/30/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dmt may be short, but of all my drug experiences, it was the most intense and terrifying. Definitely treat it with respect, or you will get an uncomfortable psychedelic bitch-slap


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: FractalMind]
    #21880268 - 06/30/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Dmt may be short, but of all my drug experiences, it was the most intense and terrifying. Definitely treat it with respect, or you will get an uncomfortable psychedelic bitch-slap




second that. first time I took it I saw/felt three dead bodies pooling in their own blood in my room


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: glimpee]
    #21998335 - 07/26/15 03:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Okay, I got my hands on half a gram of DMT. I plan to smoke 20mg of it for my 1st time. Any ideas what should I expect from 20mg?? I'm looking for the final push towards sanity along with feelings of oneness, love, peace and safety. My mdma experiment was successful, which has made me want to try dmt in very small doses, I know dmt is much more powerful.

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22023980 - 07/31/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, I smoked the dmt, and plugged into music my 1st two times and meditated the remaining 2 times, everything in sight transformed into a cartoon like visual. It felt pretty safe on my mind since the duration of the high was short and dose was low. I felt peace and love during the trip, a connection with the cosmos and it's pushed me further into sanity. I'm humbled by my changa experience overall. I feel a lot of magic has returned into my life through this spiritual use of psychedelics, and my mental illness is a part of my past. However, I've decided I won't be using DMT again for a while now,  I will use mdma after a month or two :smile:


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22024081 - 07/31/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would honestly say try out Mescaline instead of Lsd, Lsd can be pretty mind fucky compared to the loving guidance of Mescaline


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22024127 - 07/31/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have been around schizos in a similar situation.
If you do decide to go through with this be sure to test the waters with a very low dose. See how it feels. Considering your break has been so long, if your trip is bad, it could propel you further.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22024453 - 07/31/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say drop the sanity \ skitzo talk... even to yourself and STICK with it....you don't have SKITZO you cant physically touch the SKITZO... you have something SLIGHTY WRONG that will go away LIKE YOUR DOCTORS SAID.
no big deal at all...:likeaboss:

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Marihuana]
    #22026926 - 08/01/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There are NUMERIOUS srtudies of cases were in a clinical setting lsd was admintered and helped patients with alcoholism, mental health, ect. Search it on the web. Too bad it was made illegal it was helping a lot of people.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Marihuana]
    #22026974 - 08/01/15 03:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd say drop the sanity \ skitzo talk... even to yourself and STICK with it....you don't have SKITZO you cant physically touch the SKITZO... you have something SLIGHTY WRONG that will go away LIKE YOUR DOCTORS SAID.
no big deal at all...:likeaboss:

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Or you're a liar.




I haven't lied about a single word I said in this thread. Yes, I'm finally getting rid off the schizo talk, I think I'm very healed at the moment.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #22026978 - 08/01/15 03:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There are NUMERIOUS srtudies of cases were in a clinical setting lsd was admintered and helped patients with alcoholism, mental health, ect. Search it on the web. Too bad it was made illegal it was helping a lot of people.




Yes I've read about them, and I'm sure mdma is extremely useful as well


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22027015 - 08/01/15 04:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes mdma had been used therputically for a while (i believe in the 80s) but mdma unfortunately has side effects on the human brain that limit its usefulness. Where as lsd neurologically speaking has shown no ill side effects and thus can be a tool used for an entire lifetime. If need be.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #22027193 - 08/01/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes mdma had been used therputically for a while (i believe in the 80s) but mdma unfortunately has side effects on the human brain that limit its usefulness. Where as lsd neurologically speaking has shown no ill side effects and thus can be a tool used for an entire lifetime. If need be.




If a person has self discipline and control over his mind, he or she wouldn't have issues using mdma once in a while. Of course, its easy to slip into abuse, but responsible usage of mdma is possible.

I've done acid earlier, and i found mdma to be a lot more 'easy on the mind'. there are lesser chances of things going wrong. OF course, it still has side effects on the brain. On acid, in a bad set and setting, things could go wrong.

DMT was brilliant though, 3 of the 5 times i smoked i had 0 fear.

I must try Mescaline sometime, it sounds real good cause someone here said its gentle.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22058609 - 08/07/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

have you dropped the skitzo talk at all? or even tried?


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Marihuana]
    #22061477 - 08/08/15 03:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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have you dropped the skitzo talk at all? or even tried?




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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22297097 - 09/27/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Okay. For people who have been in the same boat as me or are facing the ordeal I did.

I did LSD 2x times, last month, spaced by 2 weeks apart and I feel it helped me tremendously. I'm socially more confident now. The 1st trip out of the two, was slightly difficult and the 2nd trip was happy from start to end. I dosed around 150mics of lsd each time.

However, I feel mdma is much more therapeutic when not abused.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22297292 - 09/27/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hey welcome back. You've been gone for quite some time. Haven't you? Will you stick around this time? I'm glad to hear things are getting better for you man. Just don't start abusing LSD or any drugs for that matter. I think it will definitely do more harm than good.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22297691 - 09/27/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah :smile: I got busy with life. Thanks for the message!

No, I won't be abusing any drugs, I've learned my lesson the hard way. I plan to keep my drug use to the minimum.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22297756 - 09/27/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

All good man. I hear you. If that's the case then maybe it's a good thing for you that you don't go on The Shroomery too often. You don't need any distractions when you're trying to get back on track. Not to say that I don't enjoy having you around or seeing your posts.

That's good man. I, myself, have been taking a break from psychedelics & weed, plus the occasional stimulant (amphetamine salts). Basically all drugs in general. It's been almost a month since the last time I took any psychedelics and before that I was using them once every two weeks, and before that it was once every week. I don't think it's good to be using drugs, especially psychedelics, in dark times. I hope all is well with you bro. Take it easy. Have a great day.

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22298712 - 09/27/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Good to hear you're taking a break. I did LSD and MDMA after a break of 5-6 years. It's a miracle I'm able to handle both without any negative repercussion!

Life is pretty good and I've hit stability once again! I'm very content with my life. Been using kratom on and off :smile: it's a brilliant substitute for weed.

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22372864 - 10/13/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Tripped once more and had the trance dance experience in my room! This trip was even better than the trips I had earlier.

I dosed around 125-150ug and had a blast dancing to psychedelic music amidst other genres of music. I also laid down on my back and closed my eyes to some CEVs along with some meditative music. Had no paranoia or any weird thoughts.

My next trip is going to be in nature, I think I can handle it easily in public now but I'll trip after a break now.

I feel much more healthy now and am getting compliments regarding sound mental health from my immediate family. What I've realised is that LSD or ecstasy does not cause any problems in me, the way cannabis does.

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22377281 - 10/14/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Tripped once more and had the trance dance experience in my room! This trip was even better than the trips I had earlier.

I dosed around 125-150ug and had a blast dancing to psychedelic music amidst other genres of music. I also laid down on my back and closed my eyes to some CEVs along with some meditative music. Had no paranoia or any weird thoughts.

My next trip is going to be in nature, I think I can handle it easily in public now but I'll trip after a break now.

I feel much more healthy now and am getting compliments regarding sound mental health from my immediate family. What I've realised is that LSD or ecstasy does not cause any problems in me, the way cannabis does.

Love and light to everyone!




Glad to hear it worked out :smile:

I offered caution earlier, because Im using LSD to push myself from sanity to insanity... I say insanity because theres no name for a "good" version

And I'm definitely making progress

So its interesting how psychedelics affect different people differently :smile:


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: glimpee]
    #22377421 - 10/14/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

very interesting thread...glad to see op is doing well. I have to admit, I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to using psychs with a diagnosed schizophrenia condition. I think the MDMA was a good choice to begin testing the waters and op certainly has shown good control on not dosing too much or too often. :threadmonitor:


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    #22423289 - 10/23/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm doing better than I did in the last 6 years! The ordeal turned me into a mature and compassionate person. I'm so much more confident socially after this mdma and lsd therapy. 0 symptoms of any illness, doctors have told my parents that their worries are over. I see myself leading a 'normal' or even better than normal life.

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: glimpee]
    #22423298 - 10/23/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Tripped once more and had the trance dance experience in my room! This trip was even better than the trips I had earlier.

I dosed around 125-150ug and had a blast dancing to psychedelic music amidst other genres of music. I also laid down on my back and closed my eyes to some CEVs along with some meditative music. Had no paranoia or any weird thoughts.

My next trip is going to be in nature, I think I can handle it easily in public now but I'll trip after a break now.

I feel much more healthy now and am getting compliments regarding sound mental health from my immediate family. What I've realised is that LSD or ecstasy does not cause any problems in me, the way cannabis does.

Love and light to everyone!




Glad to hear it worked out :smile:

I offered caution earlier, because Im using LSD to push myself from sanity to insanity... I say insanity because theres no name for a "good" version

And I'm definitely making progress

So its interesting how psychedelics affect different people differently :smile:




Basically you want to go to the mystical timeless universe :smile::)


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22497016 - 11/08/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Glad to hear you're doing better man. I hope you keep progressing in life. Cheers matie!


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22509961 - 11/11/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Tripped once more and had the trance dance experience in my room! This trip was even better than the trips I had earlier.

I dosed around 125-150ug and had a blast dancing to psychedelic music amidst other genres of music. I also laid down on my back and closed my eyes to some CEVs along with some meditative music. Had no paranoia or any weird thoughts.

My next trip is going to be in nature, I think I can handle it easily in public now but I'll trip after a break now.

I feel much more healthy now and am getting compliments regarding sound mental health from my immediate family. What I've realised is that LSD or ecstasy does not cause any problems in me, the way cannabis does.

Love and light to everyone!




Glad to hear it worked out :smile:

I offered caution earlier, because Im using LSD to push myself from sanity to insanity... I say insanity because theres no name for a "good" version

And I'm definitely making progress

So its interesting how psychedelics affect different people differently :smile:




Basically you want to go to the mystical timeless universe :smile::)




I dont believe in a mystical timeless universe - that would imply it exists before we go there.

The mind can create anything. No, really, anything. It can create with more detail than the reality we perceive before us. More importantly, it can convince us of anything. If we seek out a mystical universe - once our mind shows us something cool and unexplainable - we assume it is that

no, we do more than assume... our mind superimposes the assumption onto the conscious for a multitude of reasons

But then if the mind can endlessly create - and can even forget time - how can we actually be sure this mystical universe exists?

How can we be sure of astral projection? Language elves? etc.

Ive been places... done things mentally - but it was all completely within the mind

although I thought it wasnt.



In fact - I'm believing more and more that this reality is all within the mind too

Not just one mind - but in all separate minds and consciouses in unison

Im not sure how that works yet - but its pretty freekin mystical.


So no, I'm not trying to go to a mystical timeless universe...


I'm trying to create one.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22875077 - 02/07/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

An update friends and aliens.

I did some more mdma, mescaline and 2cb all at separate times and high doses, I emerged victoriously through my experiences. Life is very magical again and I feel very free, ready to face the world again. My social confidence and confidence in general has gone much higher. I have 0 delusions now and am much much happier.

I'm glad I can use these substances again, without any issues.

I can conclude psychedelics are the tools of mind, meant to be used carefully and responsibly. When used in such a manner and with respect, they can create miracles in your life.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22876454 - 02/07/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: filthyknees]
    #22877832 - 02/08/16 02:24 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

As someone who is living with schizophrenia, I would say that regular tripping definitely helps. My choice is ayahuasca. I first experienced the symptoms while in my senior year of high school, but it wasn't formally diagnosed until well after i got out of college. One of the most important things to do is find a therapist that you can trust with your life, and give the psych meds a fair try.

I was a special case because there is some damage to an area of my brain called the Ventral Tangential Area (VTA). In sort it makes it difficult to make judgements based on positive motivation. Imagine going through life with every choice being based on the lesser of evils. Combine that with schizophrenia, and let's just say that is about as close to Hell as it gets on Earth. The fracturing of my mind into pieces was causing me to loose everything, and almost drove me to suicide. None of the meds helped except Abilify at 20mg, but that caused extreme diabetic symptoms after a few months of taking it- 900+mg/dl so i had to quit.(Highly recommend Abilify for a psychotic crisis, or gently but quickly ending a very bad trip BTW)

What psychedelics seem to do is weaken the pseudo-egos of the spit parts of the mind so you can integrate them. It is similar to peeling an onion bit by bit until it reaches the core. They seem to up-regulate some brain chemicals, by compensating for the extreme insanity of the trip. It seems like there is a new normal for a few months or so. Whatever the mechanism is, i don't really care! It gives a blessed break from the voices, f-ed up thoughts, delusions, and the general static in my head.

The catch is that you have to quit all your psych meds before you can use psychedelics to treat this horrible disease. Think of it as journey, not a trip to a destination. Depending on how bad your symptoms are, it will be a good idea to prepare for this well in advance. For example, make sure the place is clean and comfortable. Take everything that might be used as a weapon out of reach and make them hard to get to. Get a trusted friend as a sitter. Keep a couple of the psych meds that are true anti-psychotics such as quiteipine, olanzapine, abilify etc on hand if it gets too crazy and there is a need to abort the trip.

I hope you find this helpful, and wish you the best in your fight to restore sanity to your mind.


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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
    #22940842 - 02/24/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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An update friends and aliens.

I did some more mdma, mescaline and 2cb all at separate times and high doses, I emerged victoriously through my experiences. Life is very magical again and I feel very free, ready to face the world again. My social confidence and confidence in general has gone much higher. I have 0 delusions now and am much much happier.

I'm glad I can use these substances again, without any issues.

I can conclude psychedelics are the tools of mind, meant to be used carefully and responsibly. When used in such a manner and with respect, they can create miracles in your life.




Im glad youre ok!

Something Ive learned, however, no human is delusion free, but I'm happy youre at a healthy level and place! Psychs can be dangerous - and you've proven more than capable and responsible in handling them.

The journey never ends, let us all keep improving exponentially and indefinitely :smile:


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