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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
#21781457 - 06/09/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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My fear was that I was going to suggest to someone which if I recall was going to inherit a lot from his parents and be able to live a sweet, sweet life, that they take a compound that might aggravate something underlying. They could also do their brain a lot of good but I'm not sure if I wanted to go with this 50-50 when they'd get better anyway.
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: circastes]
#21781599 - 06/09/15 02:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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circastes said: My fear was that I was going to suggest to someone which if I recall was going to inherit a lot from his parents and be able to live a sweet, sweet life, that they take a compound that might aggravate something underlying. They could also do their brain a lot of good but I'm not sure if I wanted to go with this 50-50 when they'd get better anyway.
Yes, you're right. That's me. But I was thinking using Lucy once in a blue moon would be a part of that 'sweet,sweet' life :)
I mean I've abstained for 5 years now, and have almost recovered, it might actually do some good and bring back magic into my life.
Anyway, I've not made my decision final and am waiting for people to share more experiences, before I even go near LSD.
Any, idea what would be safer and therapeutic, LSD or mdma/e?
Edited by mothamaruti (06/09/15 02:37 AM)
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
#21781694 - 06/09/15 04:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
#21791549 - 06/11/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Come on guys, I'm sure some of you have gone through psychosis, and recovered from it. Give me advice and share your experiences here in this thread.
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
#21793263 - 06/11/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey man,
I'm Bipolar and I wouldn't suggest acid after so long. I'm close to 3 years acid free.
I would recommend mushrooms though. They're healthier in my opinion and don't need much time recovering.
If the trip on acid goes bad, it affects me for a long while. I had to stop for the same reasons, it threw my disorder off the roof, I couldn't keep going.
Mushrooms temporarily cure me. They stabilize me even after I come down for a good while.
Have a good one!
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: HerbalJunkie]
#21793395 - 06/11/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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By no means am I saying you're full of it but that is weird that you say that. I have never done LSD, I do mushrooms once a week though. A lot of people here on the shroomery, I have read, say that LSD is easier on the mind when compared to mushrooms. The way I hear a lot of people compare the two is like LSD is friendly, colorful, & happy. & mushrooms are more unpredictable, provoking, & self analyzing. Like I said, I have never done LSD but I have done my fair share of mushrooms & I can definitely say that sometimes they are pretty unpredictable & provoking.
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21793719 - 06/11/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Giving recommendations to people spiritually requires a lot of clearheadedness and responsibility
I don't think you fall into the responsible part HerbalJunkie
Anything can go bad with mushrooms, and same with LSD if you got mental illness predisposition. It can be very dangerous. It is false that mushrooms are less dangerous because of less length or less time recovering. The recovery time seems to be about the same for mushrooms/LSD for me - after many of each.
LSD is usually more clearheaded, but that doesn't make it any less dangerous.
Mushrooms give me bad trips much easier. I would definitely not recommend mushrooms to any with mental illness - unless I felt like I had to.
I trust my feelings, but my thoughts say no on this matter...
They have the potential to help people, or break people completely very easily too.
People can get better without drugs...
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: lessismore]
#21808390 - 06/14/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You remind me of myself 3 months ago. I posted on this forum a very similar question about curing my depression with a psychedelic trip after 1,5 years of not touching psychedelics. I don't like to give huge long ass replies to questions but the topic of psychedelics is just that complicated, but my most direct advice I can give you is: Do the trip if you want, but do it without any predetermined expectations towards it and take it as it comes.
My trip story: Before the trip I expected it to be "a beautiful trip of reflecting upon the past and then watching it vanish so I can live my life happily ever after." or something like that.
However once I actually was in the trip everything backfired and the "Reflection upon the past" ended up with the past facefucking me in a fire of psychedelic inferno. So during the trip it was just a depressing hell of the past attacking me and sliding down a hole of insanity until I eventually started coming to grip with my situation so I could finally start to crawl out of it again. But ironically now 3 months afterwards I can actually say that those 6 torturous hours paradoxically helped me get myself together by letting me intensely face the worst of the pain that I otherwise would have had to carry for months, years or who knows how long? And while I still can't say that I'm totally free of it I feel more at peace just knowing that dwelling upon it will just yield infinite, endless pain.
So I suppose I watched the past vanish; In a fire fueled by my traumatic past and lit by 2.5g Shrooms.
"As time passes Things change every day But wounds, wounds heal, but scars still remain the same But tomorrow today's going down in flames Throw the match, set the past ablaze." -Eminem, Beautiful Pain.
So if you decide to do the trip I would recommend that you: 1. Keep your mind fresh, any thoughts you have before the trip will if nothing else happens STAY and just accelerate and get aggravated once you enter the trip. 2. Do Shrooms, not Acid. You do as you want but in my honest opinion Shrooms have A LOT more power when it comes to dealing with mental illnesses, they just feel SO much more authentic. I no longer do Acid but I remember feeling more "Detached" and distracted from my emotions relative to Shrooms, great of recreational use but not so for spiritual use if you ask me. 3. Have fun. For fucks sake the whole purpose of taking psychedelics in the first place is to have an experience, treat it as such and there won't be any confusion. That applies to life in general.
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: AnonLMN619]
#21809071 - 06/15/15 02:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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AnonLMN619 said: You remind me of myself 3 months ago. I posted on this forum a very similar question about curing my depression with a psychedelic trip after 1,5 years of not touching psychedelics. I don't like to give huge long ass replies to questions but the topic of psychedelics is just that complicated, but my most direct advice I can give you is: Do the trip if you want, but do it without any predetermined expectations towards it and take it as it comes.
My trip story: Before the trip I expected it to be "a beautiful trip of reflecting upon the past and then watching it vanish so I can live my life happily ever after." or something like that.
However once I actually was in the trip everything backfired and the "Reflection upon the past" ended up with the past facefucking me in a fire of psychedelic inferno. So during the trip it was just a depressing hell of the past attacking me and sliding down a hole of insanity until I eventually started coming to grip with my situation so I could finally start to crawl out of it again. But ironically now 3 months afterwards I can actually say that those 6 torturous hours paradoxically helped me get myself together by letting me intensely face the worst of the pain that I otherwise would have had to carry for months, years or who knows how long? And while I still can't say that I'm totally free of it I feel more at peace just knowing that dwelling upon it will just yield infinite, endless pain.
So I suppose I watched the past vanish; In a fire fueled by my traumatic past and lit by 2.5g Shrooms.
"As time passes Things change every day But wounds, wounds heal, but scars still remain the same But tomorrow today's going down in flames Throw the match, set the past ablaze." -Eminem, Beautiful Pain.
So if you decide to do the trip I would recommend that you: 1. Keep your mind fresh, any thoughts you have before the trip will if nothing else happens STAY and just accelerate and get aggravated once you enter the trip. 2. Do Shrooms, not Acid. You do as you want but in my honest opinion Shrooms have A LOT more power when it comes to dealing with mental illnesses, they just feel SO much more authentic. I no longer do Acid but I remember feeling more "Detached" and distracted from my emotions relative to Shrooms, great of recreational use but not so for spiritual use if you ask me. 3. Have fun. For fucks sake the whole purpose of taking psychedelics in the first place is to have an experience, treat it as such and there won't be any confusion. That applies to life in general.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I think, I'm gonna go ahead and trip, my gut says it's alright. I'll definitely follow your tips.
The reason I'll be doing LSD and not shrooms is at present I can only get my hands on Lucy.
Another schizophrenic/bipolar who was much worse than me, tripped recently and had a lot of positive changes in his life, following the trip. I don't even show any symptoms of the illness anymore, it's just that I need that final push out from slight depression and feel the magic of life once more. My life used to be amazing when I used to trip on and off earlier. Also, I think it will help me contemplate about my career a little.
Worst case scenario, if I trip and cannot handle it (which I doubt) I pop an Olanzapine to end it. But I have a feeling, it's gonna be fine.
Edited by mothamaruti (06/15/15 02:21 AM)
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
#21812797 - 06/15/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm also contemplating a small/medium dose mdma/e trip. Do you think it could be a healing experience in the right set and setting??
Wouldn't MDMA/E be safer on the mental health to trip than shrooms/LSD, cause the latter can be unpredictable??
Would a solo MDMA/E trip be healing??
Edited by mothamaruti (06/16/15 01:08 AM)
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
#21833487 - 06/20/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay, I tripped on mdma last night, did around 150mg. I had an intense trip for 5 hrs. I did it all by myself in my room with my pet Great Dane. I chatted with a few friends online, some of them I knew in person. I made a soft bed for myself with my Great Dane lying next to it. I connected the visualizer app on my iPad to the TV, and put on some tunes on my high quality headset connected to the iPod. I can say 80 percent of my trip was happy and I had a blast doing it. It was fun laying in bed, hugging my dog, dancing to music, having intimate chats with people, tripping near the TV while the visualizer was on.
Overall my experience was amazing, I feel healed, energetic and confident coming out from the trip. I'm more motivated in life as well.
My gamble worked =)
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
#21833520 - 06/20/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's good to hear man glad you enjoyed yourself. Stay healthy.
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: lovesquare]
#21836600 - 06/21/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lovesquare said: That's good to hear man glad you enjoyed yourself. Stay healthy.
Thanks. I'm feeling extremely healed today, it wasn't just a recreational experience. I think mdma could be used in psychiatry. Magic has returned to my life, and I have a wonderful substance to use once in a blue moon. I think the set and setting plays a major role even for an mdma trip.
Yes, I'll stay healthy Even managed exercise the next day
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
#21836750 - 06/21/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have diagnosed Bipolar disorder, and I can safely and confidently say that Lsd and psilocybin saved my life. The key to it all is set and setting.
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: FractalMind]
#21837075 - 06/21/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im using LSD to induce a controlled form of skits - LSD promotes skitzo-like action.
I wouldn't do it. If you got that close without LSD - you don't need it now - it can be VERY risky - potentially resulting in a complete relapse.
You don't need LSD bro, if you wanna talk and have an outside perspective on your next steps either reply or pm me
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: glimpee]
#21837190 - 06/21/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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glimpee said: Im using LSD to induce a controlled form of skits - LSD promotes skitzo-like action.
I wouldn't do it. If you got that close without LSD - you don't need it now - it can be VERY risky - potentially resulting in a complete relapse.
You don't need LSD bro, if you wanna talk and have an outside perspective on your next steps either reply or pm me
I've sent you a pm.
After reading my experience with mdma do you guys think I could use it in a safe set and setting, 1-3 times a year? I mean I had a brilliant time !
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: FractalMind]
#21837220 - 06/21/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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FractalMind said: I have diagnosed Bipolar disorder, and I can safely and confidently say that Lsd and psilocybin saved my life. The key to it all is set and setting.
Could you elaborate?
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti] 1
#21848549 - 06/24/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was diagnosed as add when I was younger, forced to be on add meds (speed) throughout my whole childhood, was punished when I didn't take that shit... started having issues with depression a few years in to that, due to issues at school, became a cutter, started to show suicidal tendencies diagnosed Bipolar, fast forward till now I have been in psych hospital 5 times, and a 30-day stint in rehab for various suicidal, and violent outbursts. Recently, after rehab and before my last hospitalization, I have had 1 mushroom trip, and 1 lsd trip in particular that have truly showed me the errors of my younger years. They have showed me I am a valuable person. They have showed me that there is a plan. I have been able to learn guitar, I have been incredibly blessed with the opportunity to blow glass with someone who learned from Snodgrass! I attribute all of my hopes, and dreams to the psychedelic experience. But I must say, the key is set and setting. Being in the right place, in the right mindset has EVERYTHING to do with the outcome. ESPECIALLY for someone with mental illness. It can be the difference between a scarring psychotic episode (this happened to me, all to do with poor set/setting), and a completely mystical, ineffable, and life - changing experience.
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: FractalMind]
#21849050 - 06/24/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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FractalMind said: I was diagnosed as add when I was younger, forced to be on add meds (speed) throughout my whole childhood, was punished when I didn't take that shit... started having issues with depression a few years in to that, due to issues at school, became a cutter, started to show suicidal tendencies diagnosed Bipolar, fast forward till now I have been in psych hospital 5 times, and a 30-day stint in rehab for various suicidal, and violent outbursts. Recently, after rehab and before my last hospitalization, I have had 1 mushroom trip, and 1 lsd trip in particular that have truly showed me the errors of my younger years. They have showed me I am a valuable person. They have showed me that there is a plan. I have been able to learn guitar, I have been incredibly blessed with the opportunity to blow glass with someone who learned from Snodgrass! I attribute all of my hopes, and dreams to the psychedelic experience. But I must say, the key is set and setting. Being in the right place, in the right mindset has EVERYTHING to do with the outcome. ESPECIALLY for someone with mental illness. It can be the difference between a scarring psychotic episode (this happened to me, all to do with poor set/setting), and a completely mystical, ineffable, and life - changing experience.
Much Love
Brilliant post. My gut instinct says shrooms will be good for me as well. Thankfully my condition never worsened to the extent where I had to be hospitalised. I was always fine on meds and currently on one of the lowest dose of Olanzapine, thankfully it never interfered with my trip.
You should try a 150mg mdma trip sometime, it really healed me and released trauma from my past. It helps as long as you don't abuse it. I'm feeling the magic re-entering my life. I show absolutely no signs of illness anymore and have become very motivated about my career. Make sure your set and setting is extremely comfortable
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Re: An LSD trip to give you the final push to sanity from Schizophrenia/Bipolar. [Re: mothamaruti]
#21872055 - 06/29/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay guys, my experience with mdma was absolutely brilliant and healing. What do you recommend next? I've been contemplating a lot about DMT cause it's a 10min thing only, I know it is extremely powerful though.
Do you think I should dabble in dmt or simply stick to my newfound magic of mdma for now?
Any of you recovered schizophrenics/bipolars have had experience with dmt?
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