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CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime?
    #2176361 - 12/14/03 09:55 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Could this be useful for mushroom cultivation?

http://www.lime.org/ENV02/Other802.htm

In the controlled atmospheric storage of fruit and vegetables, bags of hydrated lime are placed on racks in the storage room to absorb CO2 that exudes from the ripening fresh produce. In this manner a higher ratio of oxygen to CO2 is maintained, permitting vegetables and fruit to be stored fresh for much longer periods. When placed in close proximity to the produce, carbon dioxide penetrates easily through the multiwall paper bags into the lime. For apples lime consumption averages about 1 to 1.5 lb./bushel. Pears, plums, and tomatoes, in addition to apples, have been stored in this way in Canada and the Northeastern U.S., as well as in Oregon and Washington. In California this technique is commonly employed in storing lettuce.


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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2176457 - 12/14/03 11:25 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I was doing the same kind of net hunting myself like a week ago. Other things that are good as co2 absorbents are concrete, calcium(combines with co2 to make calcium carbonate) and some brand name products like Soda-lime, Ascarite, etc. You can find those here:

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But this one seems even better, but no pricing listing, just something to keep in mind in the future.

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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Mycomancer]
    #2176473 - 12/14/03 11:40 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Would be nice if there was a way to turn CO2 to oxygen so that you could have a closed system.


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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2176478 - 12/14/03 11:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

well, there's always plants. You can buy live pet grass(or live catnip) at petco, there in small sqaure potters, if there's room in the fruiting chamber, try throwing a couple of those in there and provide a good light cycle to supplement photosynthesis.

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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Mycomancer]
    #2176498 - 12/14/03 11:55 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

That idea's been tossed around, but it seems it would take up alot of space, and be very inefficient.


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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2176509 - 12/14/03 12:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

That's why you need two chambers! One for the fruiting, with a short hose or pvc pipe connecting to the other chamber which is filled with plants, and another hose/pipe to bring o2 back. Use of fans to keep air flowing from one chamber to the other. that takes care of space within the fruiting chamber, by the nature of it's design you have air circulation, and co2 exchange. Not to mention the plants will aid with the humidity.

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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Mycomancer]
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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Mycomancer]
    #2177450 - 12/14/03 07:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

This is an interesting topic, does anyone know what plants absorb more co2 than others. Also the reduction of co2 i would assume would reduce contams?


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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: A3eyedfish]
    #2177479 - 12/14/03 07:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hehe, verry nice id? with the plants/shrooms co2/o2 exange... cannabis + shrooms in hamony?

but, i doubt plats are that effective... i guess u need 10 normal cannabis (example) plats to sustain a normal growchamber..


and then u have the problem of humnidity, the plants like one kind, and the shrooms another. :smile:

but verry cool, verry cool indeed.

but, A3eyedfish might on to something, some plants might be better then others?


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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Parpas]
    #2177531 - 12/14/03 08:23 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Mycelim can fix CO2. It might benifit if you have A LOT growing, but, otherwise, it won't do much that air exchange can't do itself.

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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Parpas]
    #2177541 - 12/14/03 08:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

There are indeed differences among plants and their level photosynthetic ability. I would guess that plants with larger leaves(thus more surface area for the conversion) would be better candidates. Plants that are prolific producers of leaves are also good candidates. Then perhaps we should consider geographical origins. Would a plant that's tropical in nature, which normally recieves stronger and more direct sunlight, be a better synthesizer? Also, the tropical flora would be better suited to a humid climate.

Also type of lighting affects the process. I believe that lighting strong in the blue promotes a stronger photosynthetic response. MJ growers are probably familiar with these. The key is probably in maximizing these parameters.

Although we may not obtain an efficiancy level high enough to convert all the co2 to o2, we will get an etrainment effect where the remaining co2 is being mixed with the fresh o2, and then recirculated. A key point in the pmp and many professional growing solutions, as pointed out by Stamets in TMC.

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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2194317 - 12/21/03 08:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Have you considered a tray of green algae? (W. hepa filters between it and the grow chamber, of course.) Advantages: high humidity, grows flat,not up, (so if you could find a way to get light to each level, you could stack several levels of algae in a small space). Disadvantages: hard as HELL to handle without throwing contaminants everywhere.

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Re: CO2 reduction by use of hydrated lime? [Re: Parpas]
    #2194411 - 12/21/03 09:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i dont think a relatively small amount of fungus would be enough to sustain a single cannabis plant with its co2 needs, much less 10. i would imagine the plant would expereince alot of stress in a closed system with only fungus supplying co2. the benefits the plants would provide (co2 removal is all i can think of) arnt worth the problems that would be associated with sustaining both organisms. but i still keep several "air plants" in my fruiting chamber. they are lucky charms! i originally used them because they are tiny, clean, require no soil, and thrive in high humidity enviroments. they get sickly when they are in the chamber for too long(they are only getting the light supplied by my tiny LED nightlight), so i rotate them out to keep them alive. only place ive seen these airplants @ rite-aid/eckerd/ local pharmacy type places, and they are actually pretty cool little plants.


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