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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21764258 - 06/05/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Lack of sleep is very much life threatening. I've attempted suicide from lying awake staring at a ceiling for hours.
Yes I've tried melatonin, didn't really help, valerian root helps a bit but really is like a band aid on a bullet wound.
Sprinkles and Cactus have proved they have no idea what they're running their mouths about and it's almost humorous.
You attempted suicide because you couldn't fall asleep immediately? Lack of sleep is not life threatening unless you push the envelope I have gone 144 hours without sleep several times and survived.
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21764262 - 06/05/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I actually don't sleep a lot. Hence my mention of having abnormal theta brain waves. I'm on a computer because staring at a dark ceiling for 4 hours gets pretty boring.
I only get about 4 to 5 hours of sleep a night. Stop acting like you fucking know me.
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21764264 - 06/05/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said:
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Psychonautica said: Lack of sleep is very much life threatening. I've attempted suicide from lying awake staring at a ceiling for hours.
Yes I've tried melatonin, didn't really help, valerian root helps a bit but really is like a band aid on a bullet wound.
Sprinkles and Cactus have proved they have no idea what they're running their mouths about and it's almost humorous.
You attempted suicide because you couldn't fall asleep immediately? Lack of sleep is not life threatening unless you push the envelope I have gone 144 hours without sleep several times and survived.
I attempted suicide after not being able to sleep for 16 years.
-------------------- The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one 3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother. Sheekle said: yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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musiclover420
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: danielx]
#21764268 - 06/05/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Scarily naive and close minded/ judgmental... Everyone likes to think they know best though
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21764270 - 06/05/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wrong. You dont know that we know that it is all in your head.
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Psychonautica
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: sprinkles]
#21764274 - 06/05/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus claims to suffer from insomnia but you've never thought of killing yourself to get respite from the waking nightmare?
Then you don't have insomnia.
Have you ever considered suicide, Shroomslip, or is it abnormal to think that's common with insomnia?
-------------------- The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one 3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother. Sheekle said: yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21764284 - 06/05/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sounds like something an overweight person would say. Sedentary people have difficulty sleeping because they dont do anything physical. Save billions, if we ate less and moved more the government couldnt control is with corn. It's corn control. 
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21764287 - 06/05/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trying to kill yourself doesn't make your problems any worse than the next guys. It just means you are too weak to deal with it. Seriously though, if you have suicidal thoughts, get some help.
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21764294 - 06/05/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can't "learn to sleep" when the lights simply won't shut off. I have a feeling you're one of those people I mentioned earlier who has difficulty sleeping and claims to have insomnia. If you were told by a doctor you have insomnia it was probably the other group I mentioned in that doctors are diagnosis/prescribe happy.
There is no learning to sleep. It either happens or it doesn't. I have suffered with it my entire life. There is literally not one single thing any person can tell me that I haven't already tried minus some off the wall shit said just to be the first like "dip your dick in honey, do the hokey pokey, hold your breath for 2 minutes while you flail your arms in opposite directions". I have tried everything under the sun to find a solution. THE ONLY thing that works is drugs that push my mind and body into that "I can't go on any longer" phase before it would reach it at it's own pace.
Do I think drugs are the best answer? No. But I've been on them for much longer than a couple of weeks and my problems haven't gotten worse. I've benefited greatly from being able to sleep regularly. My insomnia can't get worse. It doesn't matter if I can't sleep for 4 days or take meds for long periods and find out I can't sleep for 5 now. By day 2 I'm already entering into psychosis. After day 3 I don't get any worse. My mental faculties are shot, I'm hallucinating, entirely emotionally unstable and experiencing all the other "perks" sleep deprivation brings.Quote:
Psychonautica said: Bitter Cactus claims to suffer from insomnia but you've never thought of killing yourself to get respite from the waking nightmare?
Then you don't have insomnia.
Have you ever considered suicide, Shroomslip, or is it abnormal to think that's common with insomnia?
No it's not uncommon. Insomnia, or rather the sleep deprivation it causes, is maddening. If I go a few weeks without meds, I will lose my shit. Whatever rationality I may have goes completely out the window.
For those who don't understand what it's like, I challenge you right here right now to find out. Go on a sleep cycle for a month or so of being awake for 36+ hours and then going to bed for 2 hours, wake up and do it again. See how long you can do it without going insane. I know no one is going to do it, because everyone understands the value of sleep. Anyone who is old enough to be on this site has stayed up far too late with obligations the next day and had to trudge their way through it. Just imagine if you didn't have a choice in the matter and it was an everyday thing.
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: stratocast] 1
#21764297 - 06/05/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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no. it means you have a mental illness and suffer from depression. dont just assume that a person is weak because they dont feel like being here anymore. seriously. every human being has thought about suicide. its normal. if you didnt think about suicide, you are not fkg normal.
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: sprinkles] 1
#21764301 - 06/05/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Holy shit did sprinkles just say something intelligent?
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: sprinkles]
#21764306 - 06/05/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That seems a bit hypocritical too me. Let me guess, you are depressed so take it more seriously than something, like say insomnia which you clearly don't understand.

I agree with The first have of what Sprinkles said too, though I am not sure I can stand by the "suicidal thoughts are normal" comment...
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: musiclover420]
#21764318 - 06/05/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well duh music, depression is a disease, I'm choosing to have insomnia obviously.
-------------------- The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one 3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother. Sheekle said: yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: musiclover420]
#21764332 - 06/05/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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it means every human being on earth has thought about suicide at some point in their life and that is normal. Take a reading class. why do i always have to explain everything. dont they teach reading anymore? probably not. drama and art and singing is more important than reading, science, and math. And thats why america is behind. Soon we'll be a 3rd world country that even the mexicans wont want to live in.
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: sprinkles]
#21764337 - 06/05/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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it'll be a metrosexual/transexual free for all and I will be long dead before that happens.
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musiclover420
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: sprinkles]
#21764340 - 06/05/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am pretty sure there have been people who probably have never even conceived of taking their own life before. How can you know what everyone thinks?
I highly doubt every single person, or even the vast majority has seriously thought of suicide.
What the hell does taking a reading class have to do with you stating something like
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sprinkles said: it means every human being on earth has thought about suicide at some point in their life
 
I get the theory behind that but I believe humans are to diverse for any general statements like that to be true.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: musiclover420]
#21764360 - 06/05/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's sprinkles, just ignore it and move on lol.
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21764364 - 06/05/15 02:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't take revenge unless your plan will bring some finality to your unhappy situation. Think selfishly and think big picture. Most things that feel good, like shouting at him, are extraordinarily temporary in their relief.
If you have poison ivy you don't scratch, that's what it wants; you make a plan, acquire what you need and set it in motion and have patience.
You want to think practically and make sure you figure out your priority before making a plan. If you could only choose 1 would you rather: get your money back, have him move out, or get epic revenge. One choice isn't better then the other (though I'd choose the 2nd every time) but it's nearly impossible to accomplish more then 1 of those objectives.
Whatever you decide to do you should be removing his control over your things. Buy a doorknob with a lock for your bedroom, label everything that's yours in public space, be really obnoxious about it, it's a great first step for signaling he's no longer welcome and starts the process of getting him out.
Of course if you're just looking to fuck with him:
1) post his # to male seeking male casual encounters on craigslist asking for dick pics. 2) constantly loosen any cord connections he uses (cable internet etc) 3) hide his shit 4) if you're home and awake, your music is playing. No headphones and switch to wev he hates. 5) You said he has no license. Peel the little registration sticker off his back license plate. Eventually someone will notice. (It won't be him)
Honestly #1 is incredibly epic and lasts for months, plus it's super anonymous and insanely annoying so if you're not interested in taking the high road, it's a great option.
I'm not contributing to that mental illness / depression / insomnia conversation because they literally always go the exact same way and there's always 3 types of people:
"You could never really understand the depths my mind has to face" "I've never experienced it so I'm sure you're full of crap" "Everybody look at me, I don't have issues but I'm so supportive and empathetic that I'm a great person"
Not passing judgement on any of the people in that convo, I've just seen it a hundred thousand times and it never freakin changes.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: musiclover420]
#21764368 - 06/05/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bro so many people have a tough time sleeping. Last time I checked you don't need to attempt to kill yourself to get a diagnosis for insomnia. We are all not as weak minded as that.
And dude, trust me, you do not need the meds. That is your addiction talking. Sure, in the short term they may offer you relief but in the long term will cause you way more problems. Listen to this warning. You should stop immediately because benzo addiction is worse then being a heroin junkie. It will make your insomnia ten times worse in the long run buddy unless you expect to be hooked on them your whole life at monsterous doses. Benzo addiction doesn't discriminate dude and you are clearly hooked you are freaking out over nothing.
By the way, there are sleeping techniques and things you can do to get a better sleep. My suggestion is to get a good therapist and to do some research because the drugs are gonna make it way worse. Those drugs are bad news bears bud.
You are doing something addicts like to call rationalization. You are rationalizing your addiction to the pills because you have troubles sleeping. That is the beginning of a long road of benzo addiction and trust me it is a shit storm.
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Re: Well it turns out my roommate flushed my meds. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21764385 - 06/05/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You have absolutely no idea what your talking about, and your reputation as a troll speaks volumes about your logic. Insomnia isn't one night of rough sleep. Nor a month. It's a life long condition.
Someone stealing my meds is freaking out over nothing?
Troll confirmed
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Edited by Psychonautica (06/05/15 02:20 AM)
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