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ergoticmandala



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which of these plants is really worth growing myself?
#21762009 - 06/04/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Celastrus paniculatus, Calea ternifolia, Centella asiatica, Heimia salicifolia; and keep in mind that I will be using these to try and find a way to promote lucid dreams or enhance vivid dreams.
Commentary about each of these herbs would also be appreciated.
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Lemnaminor
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Re: which of these plants is really worth growing myself? [Re: ergoticmandala]
#21762154 - 06/04/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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All of them work really well, simply because the placebo effect weights more than the actual effect of those herbs.
ok, being serious, i never tried those kind of herbs to lucid dream, but even the most renowned one (calea zacatechichi) seems to do not help that much alone. Most of the effort is up to you. Training is the key.
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musiclover420
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Re: which of these plants is really worth growing myself? [Re: Lemnaminor]
#21762226 - 06/04/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have had grate experiences with Celastrus.
I started taking a seed a day and increasing it by an extra seed a day. Well after a couple weeks I had not noticed much and I stopped.
The next night I had some very intense and vivid dreams.
Now I go back and forth taking it, seems the longer I supplement with it and push my dose the more effective it is.
I also use tinctures now on top of the seeds.
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Lemnaminor
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Re: which of these plants is really worth growing myself? [Re: musiclover420]
#21762345 - 06/04/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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just a reminder, Lucid dreams, are not just intense dreams, dreams that you remember perfectly or dreams full of details. Lucid dreams are dreams that you control (at different levels) from chosing in which way you want to go (as minimum of control) to deleting everithing around you or completely creating a setting (to the maximum)
Also your exeperience is more or less stong depending on your thought and coscience. While the minimum criteria for a lucid dream is to be aware that you are in a dream, this is not sufficient, as i did many dreams in wich i'm aware that i'm dreaming but those were definitely not to be considered lucid dreams.
Just to make some examples, some of things that i've done in my lucid dreams, that made me realize that my mind was almost fully awake:
Remembering things to do in the dream and doing them (things that i wanted to do and conceived while i was awake, and lucid dream test that i red on the internet)
Being fully aware of your current position in the real world (meaning that i understand how i am positioned in the bed and of course in which place)
Fixing ideas and phrases and remembering after awaking.
Being able to wake up to command.
Controlling fear, when you happen to get a lucid Nightmare (happened twice, once i had to change the setting, once i wanted to bear the situation that slowly faded to more calm)
Dream starting exactly where you went to bed and realizing that this is not reality but lucid dream after some seconds, then getting outside by the window, or by stairs as you would normally do.
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Oggy
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Re: which of these plants is really worth growing myself? [Re: Lemnaminor]
#21762472 - 06/04/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didn't know Centella Asiata altered the dream state... Neat! I have a ton of the seeds that I received months back but never did anything with. I'm trying to germinate a handful of them right now with no luck so far. I started them around the first week of May.
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