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Are you in favor of vaccines?
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Re: do you believe science? [Re: SeaShrooms]
#21789495 - 06/10/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I believe the scientific method is one of the best ways of understanding the world around us, but it is not the only way.
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LunarEclipse said: Are you in favor of vaccines?
It depends on the person/child. I don't think reality is black and white.
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Except in prison.
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There are shades of mexicans a such, it's not all black and white
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Badgers? We don't need no steenkin' badgers!
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hahahahahhahahah great pic!
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This sure is a fun topic.
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Yeah like a belief in science is a choice, silly goose OP. It works with out belief.
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I'm funny, how?
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I believe the scientific method is one of the best ways of understanding the world around us, but it is not the only way.
Out of curiosity, can you name others?
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If the universe is expanding, then what is it expanding into?
Exactly my point about metaphysics, which requires philosophical thinking not scientific thinking. At the theoretical 'edge' physics( Greek: 'physis' = nature) is being created, or perhaps less magickally-sounding, potential is becoming actual. There is no 'outside' the boundary. At that juncture there is the Unmanifest, Non-existence. This is a transcendental Reality, Undefined as the notation 1/0. Theologically it is variously referred to in mystical Judaism or Christianity, and always it is utterly transcendental, without known attributes. The best metaphor I have uses our own dreamscapes, which exist solely in consciousness, not in space-time. Correspondingly (and a strict materialist won't like this at all because it posits Mind as the metaphysical substratum of physical reality) but, the metaphor is that the physical universe is akin to the dream of God (Ultimate Reality) expanding into the Unmanifest not-yet, just as our own dreamscapes expand in our mind, not 'within' our physical skull. But this metaphor works if and only if mind is not equated with an energetic epiphenomenon of electro-biochemical neural processes. In other words, mind derives from Mind, not from matter. Matter also derives from Mind insofar as THAT which preceded the Big Bang, preceded physical particles and matter. Only Mind becomes self-conscious through developments in the Great Chain of Being which began with the first positive and negative particles coalescing from the Primal Plasma into Hydrogen all the way up to the complexity of a human being. That which is 'prior to physics' is metaphysical.
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Science is God, Math is undeniable.
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I believe in the evidence found through scientific methods. My beliefs/opinions have no effect on what reality is. There is more magic in the natural world than we care to acknowledge. Look into astrophysics if you want to know anything about physics and the universe we actually live in.
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MinnesnowtaNice said: Science is God, Math is undeniable.
Neither science or theology would concede to this false equation of definitions. Science is logical methodology. Math can only quantify, not qualify, not grasp human valuation of quantity ("How much do you love?" Absurd.). Science, from the Latin scientia means knowledge. However, epistemé is not gnosis, and these refer to scientific knowledge and mystical knowledge, respectively. Epistemé is a corollary of the Thinking function, gnosis is a function of the Intuitive function. Thinking works in consonance with the Sensing function (sense data and reason), Intuition works in consonance with the Feeling function (insight and devotion). The human psyche works through all four of these functions. One-sidedness is simply, well, one-sided. Unconsciousness of one's "inferior functions" results in incompleteness and deficiencies in human development.
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Consciousness is the other tool besides science for investigating the world.
Change it. It will eventually drift to these higher circuits and stay there.
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Re: do you believe science? [Re: circastes]
#21795347 - 06/11/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Consciousness is the other tool besides science for investigating the world.
You sound like a Phenomenologist! Great!
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Consciousness isn't a tool, consciousness is a part of biology. Unless you think your soft tissue is a tool too
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