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dnllln


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Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment
#21761738 - 06/04/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I used the rest of my master grain jar after I did my g2g transfers to make this little tray. I didn't have any coir so I said screw it and went with straight verm.
I honestly wasn't expecting much, but I'd call this a success. Mixed about half a quart of WBS colonized with GT with 2 cups of verm and "cased" with another cup of verm.
So how do I get those pesky side "pins" out now? In all my infinite wisdom I forgot to put down a liner.

I honestly didn't know what would happen. I had read about the rez effect, so I thought screw it and went with it.
And hey! I haven't been posting because I'm finally back at work! I've got 5 quarts of B+ and another 5 quarts of GT nearly finished that I'll be spawning to two tubs soon!
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ShroominMe
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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: dnllln]
#21761745 - 06/04/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Once they've formed there's no way to get rid of them. After your first flush make sure you remove all the tiny shrooms and pins and put duct tape on the sides before your 2nd flush. They'll probably come back, just not as much as the first time. No harm no foul.
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Mad Season
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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: ShroominMe]
#21761761 - 06/04/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't duct tape the sides.. it doesn't do anything. Light isn't the trigger. It's the high humidity climate in the sides. You want 99% surface humidity. We accomplish this by stuffing the bottom holes tight af and misting. If you want less side pinners, it needs more moisture on the surface. Or have a liner where it shrinks with the substrate providing no microclimate.
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dnllln


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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: Mad Season]
#21761832 - 06/04/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah. It's my fault for not using a liner. This is in a sgfc so I've been misting, but I work 12 hour days so I can only do so much. Irregardless should I be able to flip this upside down on the lid to get to those sidepins? Or do you think it'll crumble the sub? Shoot I might try to get it out of the container and just let it sit on some foil in the sgfc to continue on with a second flush.
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Mad Season
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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: dnllln]
#21761845 - 06/04/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you've got a second tub/tray put it on top of the substrate, flip it and it'll be on the bottom of the other tub. Then put the lid on top of the flipped substrate and flip back again so it's on the lid. You shouldn't have any sub cracking from that. You can also just fruit it in the fc on the lid too
Edited by Mad Season (06/04/15 02:08 PM)
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bugman
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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: dnllln]
#21762041 - 06/04/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you could always do what i did those where all side pins that turned into this
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dnllln


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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: bugman]
#21790031 - 06/10/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bugman, that's exactly what I did! Worked like a charm. So far all the little sidepins save a few aborts and flourished out and been harvested. On top of that I'm getting a ton of new pins on both the top and sides. So far I've gotten roughly 21 grams dry out of this half quart of spawn!
Thanks for your advice everyone! Next month I plan on doing an actual monotub.
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bugman
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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: dnllln]
#21795214 - 06/11/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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dnllln said: bugman, that's exactly what I did! Worked like a charm. So far all the little sidepins save a few aborts and flourished out and been harvested. On top of that I'm getting a ton of new pins on both the top and sides. So far I've gotten roughly 21 grams dry out of this half quart of spawn!
Thanks for your advice everyone! Next month I plan on doing an actual monotub.
yea it ended up being way better than i thought it would
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fearnoevil
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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: bugman]
#21795534 - 06/11/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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While you could simply flip a small tub like that to grow out the side and bottom pins, cleaning them off, soaking and then going for a full second flush might result in a quicker turn around. My XP/observation is that any substrate contains X amount of nutrients which will produce Y amount of mushrooms.
Either allowing the side pins to grow out OR simply removing the pins and going for a second (or more) flushes, the results will be pretty much similar. BUT waiting for the pins to grow usually doesn't produce as much as a full flush, and since you haven't soaked the sub, they'll tend to be smaller. You'll probably get a better and bigger second flush by soaking and fruiting, imho.
Btw, you can dry and save all the pins as well as any parts that may be cut/removed during harvest (depending on how you clean yours). Keep them in the freezer until you have enough (say a 1/2 oz) and then grind them up and do an ethanol extraction on them with everclear or other high proof alky. Bout 5 days is all it takes, filter and do shots, BEST WAY EVER to do shrooms, again imho ;?D
Edited by fearnoevil (06/11/15 11:48 PM)
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ShroominMe
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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: fearnoevil]
#21795559 - 06/12/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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fearnoevil said:
Btw, you can dry and save all the pins as well as any parts that may be cut/removed during harvest (depending on how you clean yours). Keep them in the freezer until you have enough (say a 1/2 oz) and then grind them up and do an ethanol extraction on them with everclear or other high proof alky. Bout 5 days is all it takes, filter and do shots, BEST WAY EVER to do shrooms, again imho ;?D
Thanks for the post fearnoevil, it reminded me of this classic old thread:
CRYSTALS OF THE GODS
Why five days? Soak and filter x 5?
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fearnoevil
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Re: Side Pinning Hell! +Experiment [Re: ShroominMe]
#21795628 - 06/12/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey ShroominMe, yes I remember that post vividly, in fact I think I posted to it, or another one like it, years ago.[EDIT: Actually after checking your link, that is the original writeup by Fanaticus - I can't remember which forum/site it was on, but there was an extensive post by the same name which I did post to but it has been many years ago ;?)] I actually did produce crystals, but it was so much effort (at the time anyway) and I didn't think the crystals were that potent, although may have had something to do with not performing the process properly, idk.
But making the liqueur is easy peasy, and I do love the high, comes on quickly, no weird body/stomach issues, always seems more up/positive high (so say most of my friends whom I've dosed, lol) and an "average" dose lasts around 4 hrs or so and the high is very smooth. So basically UP, then plateau and then down, or you can just keep dosing every 3-4 hrs, also makes it easier to control HOW high you get. Only downside is that it IS in an Everclear base, so with the extreme burn it's rather hard to get down, lol, and nearly impossible for some people. And diluting it with anything just seems to prolong the suffering, lol, but if you can't take it straight I've found a little V8 juice helps (better as a chaser imo).
So basically just grind up your shrooms with a coffee grinder or blender, until it's a fine powder. I use about an oz of shrooms per 300 mls of 190 proof Everclear, try to get the higher proof as it's better imo, less water content and is less likely to extract other "impurites" (for lack of a better word) that tend to give you those weird stomach issues (which for some people seem to much worse than for others, idk why).
Then just leave it in a cupboard or just sitting out even, and every so often, at least a couple of times each day, shake the ever-loving shit out of it for a minute or two, good exercise too, lol. Five days to a week is just what I've heard most do, but it can be done in just a couple of days, but you'll probably be leaving some of the goods behind. But if you're in a hurry, just keep the extracted pulp in a jar in the fridge and add a little alky) and just leave it there for a few weeks or longer (keeps in the freezer for a very long time too).
Then strain it through a fine mesh to get out the bulk of the pulp, then after you press most of the alky out, put the pulp back in the jar, add another 100-150 mls of alky, shake and strain a second time. You could take it right then, but I prefer to then run this through a further filtration to clarify it and get rid of the rest of the mushroom pulp, which again contains unwanted stuff.
Coffee filter in a funnel for the first filtration, then a Charmin plug to really clean it up (this will take a while). Charmin plug is just a length of TP, folded into thirds lengthwise, then carefully rolled up and stuck in the end of a large funnel (tightness is key, too loose and it doesn't filter well, too tight and you'll still be waiting 2 days later, lol). Stuff should come out as a brownish but crystal clear liqueur. Yeah, it's a bit of work but well worth it, imo. When you're done, you can calculate the dosage by dividing the amount of shrooms into the amount of liqueur you have made - for instance 1 oz into 400mls means that 50mls is equal to 1/8th of shrooms, more or less anyways. Hope you try it, it's the bomb dude ;?D
Edited by fearnoevil (06/13/15 12:39 AM)
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