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spaceman101
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#21765215 - 06/05/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm about to get a 4 ribbed bridge whenever it gets large enough for a buddy of mine to cut it.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#21766295 - 06/05/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lemnaminor said: oh, it was a 5 ribbed bridgesii, what a shame!
Well, not a shame, if you did it to save a variegated loph.
What's special about a five ribbed Bridgesii?
Nothing at all. I have about thirty seed grown bridgesii. All have varying amounts of ribs at varying stages of maturity. I've seen merchants who will use the amount of ribs as a selling point in order to overprice a cactus and sell it to suckers who believe that a fewer amount of ribs indicates that the plant has a higher amount of alkaloids. There's no scientific basis behind it. Just schlockmeisters selling snake oil.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: prismism]
#21766352 - 06/05/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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To add on that...a lot of people just consider them "special" only because they can be rarer & harder to come by.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: 1234go]
#21766430 - 06/05/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lets bring this back to healing Spaceman's yote. Positive vibes
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
#21766512 - 06/05/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is no reason that what is left on the peres won't pup again. I'm confident for this yote
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spaceman101
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: Argyreia]
#21766609 - 06/05/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks guys and prism I cut off a large enough piece to root so I'll still have the 5 ribed Bridge when it callouses
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: spaceman101]
#21767690 - 06/05/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yo spray that rot down with some clove oil water it should promptly stop spreading
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: 1234go]
#21767778 - 06/05/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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prismism said:
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Lemnaminor said: oh, it was a 5 ribbed bridgesii, what a shame!
Well, not a shame, if you did it to save a variegated loph.
What's special about a five ribbed Bridgesii?
Nothing at all. I have about thirty seed grown bridgesii. All have varying amounts of ribs at varying stages of maturity. I've seen merchants who will use the amount of ribs as a selling point in order to overprice a cactus and sell it to suckers who believe that a fewer amount of ribs indicates that the plant has a higher amount of alkaloids. There's no scientific basis behind it. Just schlockmeisters selling snake oil.
I see,thanks
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1234go said: To add on that...a lot of people just consider them "special" only because they can be rarer & harder to come by.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#21769078 - 06/06/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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New pics? See how they are doing...I hope that I convinced you to act fast enough. I didnt want to see you suffer and hurt the way I do for the plant that rotted on me. I was able to save lots of genetic material, and a few rooted pieces, but the main root and stems died.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
#21783535 - 06/09/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I plan to upgrade this thread with some pics tonight.
All the rot seems to be gone and I have a stump on the peres that looks good and swollen so I'm hoping for a pup at some point. Also the graft seems to have connected but I don't know if it has completely taken yet or if it even will. The scion has not shriveled any at this point though
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: spaceman101]
#21784502 - 06/09/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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they can take days to weeks to show growth. remember, it was a sick plant, and still has to regenerate cell structure and growth patterns
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
#21784593 - 06/09/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you kosmo for your help
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: spaceman101]
#21784813 - 06/09/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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no problem Spaceman.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: spaceman101]
#22004056 - 07/27/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys I just wanted to let everyone know that has been following me with my issues of rot "especially with my variegated grafts" that I have seemed to save each one
One of my Wooly loph grafts have successfully taken to my Bridge rootstock and my fully variegated Loph that I had to cut down nearly to the base is pupping. Also the original Yellow loph that I had to cut down is pupping like crazy but it only had 1 areole to pup from and it was basically the only non variegated area on the loph so the pups are normal. I have a pic of that one now but I'll post a pic of the others when I get back today
 Here's the last one I was talking about and this is an older pic so I'll update it later to show you haw large they've gotten
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: spaceman101]
#22004062 - 07/27/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice work. Im glad we could help.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
#22004071 - 07/27/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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kosmokratorshaman said: Nice work. Im glad we could help.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: spaceman101]
#22004717 - 07/27/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good job man!
By the way, i read a bit of the discussion, and i want to make clear that i don't belive in folklore of 4/5 ribbed bridgesii to be more potent. i just like how they look. My personal opinion is that 5 rib ones are the best looking bridgesii, and i seek for getting a 4 ribbed one. The rarer the better.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: spaceman101]
#22004811 - 07/27/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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spaceman101 said: Hey guys I just wanted to let everyone know that has been following me with my issues of rot "especially with my variegated grafts" that I have seemed to save each one
One of my Wooly loph grafts have successfully taken to my Bridge rootstock and my fully variegated Loph that I had to cut down nearly to the base is pupping. Also the original Yellow loph that I had to cut down is pupping like crazy but it only had 1 areole to pup from and it was basically the only non variegated area on the loph so the pups are normal. I have a pic of that one now but I'll post a pic of the others when I get back today
 Here's the last one I was talking about and this is an older pic so I'll update it later to show you haw large they've gotten
I Thank you all for your support
Looks good spaceman. Glad you could save it. It's always hard to lose cacti to rot. You always blame yourself and wonder if you could have done anything different. At least is they case with me. I'm very hard on myself. This year I lost my loph crest. It was a terrible loss.
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: ferrel_human]
#22005121 - 07/27/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Woot! Good to hear that news!  
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Re: Variegated yote graft with what seems like the beginning stages of rot [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22005244 - 07/27/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just a note, even though that areole that is pupping is not showing variegation, you still have a great chance for that yote to variegate again. The phenotype for that behavior is within the genetic makeup of every cell in that specimen.
The possibility always exists.
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