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Albino Golden Teacher? 1
#21761473 - 06/04/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a bulk tub going of golden teacher while the flush is not too impressive quantity wise there are a few of what appear to be albino mushrooms popping up here's a pic of the biggest one. Has anyone ever encountered this before? Do you know what would cause this?

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Mad Season
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Yes. If it has white spores it's albino. Kinda doubt it is though. Probably just leucistic. That's white with black spores.
Here's a leucistic golden teacher I had a few years ago:
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Re: Albino Golden Teacher? [Re: Mad Season]
#21761592 - 06/04/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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interesting.
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NumeroEno
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Looks leucistic to me. Clone and stabilize that fucker
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Re: Albino Golden Teacher? [Re: NumeroEno]
#21761637 - 06/04/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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NumeroEno said: Looks leucistic to me. Clone and stabilize that fucker 
exactly what I was thinking, and nice phish references sir, Will you be on tour this summer? magnaball awaits!
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Nah I won't be touring. The only shows I'll be able to make it to is the 3 night run at Dick's in Denver.
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I had one of those come up on the last flush I had of a cake. Think it was GT too actually. Been years since I grew, can't remember.
Perhaps mine had more to do with lack of nutrients though, as a bunch of weird ones came up on that last flush.

Btw Numero, I had never heard a Phish song until DSO covered one at the Jubilee this year. I had always heard they sucked but I enjoyed what I heard, it was actually the same song you have quoted.
"from the land of the Big Baboon", I was frying at the time and started dying laughing when I heard that.
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Re: Albino Golden Teacher? [Re: Toe_Jam]
#21761746 - 06/04/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's one of my favorite songs by far. IMO the only people that talk shit about phish are the ones that haven't listened to them enough. I've surprised quite a few of my skeptical friends by how much they rock. They're so talented and so tight. Back in the early 2000s when Trey was all fucked up it was a different story, but now that he's clean they just crush it.
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error37invaliduser
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totally crush it
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Clone it, isolate, fruit each isolate out and then take prints from any fruits that come out abino, or just from the best ones. Then do MS grows with those spores and clone and isolate all over again. If you get lucky and do it right, after 6 or 7 generations you might be able to stabilize a new albino or leucistic strain.
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I know this thread is a bit old but I just had the same thing happen. Two brf cakes now fruiting a multispore GT have normal brown headed pins but also a cluster of white ones, and a few individual white ones.

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cool, watch out for any that have what appears to be black prints, i would clone and print those as well as the white ones
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Re: Albino Golden Teacher? [Re: cronicr]
#22572250 - 11/25/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is only my second time growing and the last time was 19 years ago but I've never had anything like this happen before. I understand that when you use a multispore syringe you get mixed genetics and variations in the mushrooms and somehow I just hit the genetic lottery and ended up with white GT shrooms and obviously it's happened before with this strain. At this point I don't know if they're albino or just white but it sure is neat and i plan to clone it and do a grow exclusively from the clones and that will get me identical and all-white shrooms but I'm interested to know how one would go about selection where you could get all white shrooms from their prints or if that's even possible. Anyway, here they are this morning and as you can see, I think i have the same thing that the OP had. They are definitely white.

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MycodelicManiac said: This is only my second time growing and the last time was 19 years ago

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MycodelicManiac said: but I've never had anything like this happen before. I understand that when you use a multispore syringe you get mixed genetics and variations in the mushrooms and somehow I just hit the genetic lottery and ended up with white GT shrooms and obviously it's happened before with this strain. At this point I don't know if they're albino or just white but it sure is neat and i plan to clone it and do a grow exclusively from the clones and that will get me identical and all-white shrooms but I'm interested to know how one would go about selection where you could get all white shrooms from their prints or if that's even possible. Anyway, here they are this morning and as you can see, I think i have the same thing that the OP had. They are definitely white.
Mixed spores in the same syringe is definitely possible. I would take a clone of those little pins, make sure to get clean growth on agar, then grow it out and take a print of one of the fruits. Then when you go to use the spores, the resulting mushrooms should all have the same phenotype.
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36fuckin5
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You want to isolate sectors after you clone to get a pure culture.
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You may have mostly albino/white genetics in those mushrooms mixed with a little bit of pigmented genetics.
When you clone them, be sure to save the initial clone plate in the fridge. You may grow it out to find you took the wrong sector and get all normal pigmented fruits.
Print them as well. I would consider that a second option to cloning the fruits. The albinos I'm trying to isolate are mostly sterile. Be aware they may have clear spores if they are true albinos.
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I would like to know if the OP's white shrooms had normal or clear spores. anyway thanks for all the suggestions I'll definitely do that. I've cloned lots of different mushrooms on agar it should be pretty easy.
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Re: Albino Golden Teacher? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22573337 - 11/25/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: You want to isolate sectors after you clone to get a pure culture.
Wouldn't it already be just one genotype when you clone it? one dikaryotic strain? it was my understanding that if I clone it, i will get nothing but the same exact genetics when i grow it out and fruit it.
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Machiavelliavore
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The mushroom can be composed of more than one strain. I had some interesting mixed albino/pidgmented fruits.

That one is mostly pigmented with a bit of albino (only photo I have) but probably only one sector from a clone of that fruit would be albino. A fruit could look almost entirely albino, but still have a bit of pigmented genetics in it, and then if you toss the initial clone plate and keep only one sector, you could lose it.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
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cronicr


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yep fruits can be made up of more then one strain
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