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progoslomo
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Volumetrically Dosing DMT?
#21761458 - 06/04/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey everyone! This is my first post so please bear with me if I make any mistakes. I have been lurking around Shroomery for a while and had no real reason to make an account until now. I have looked EVERYWHERE to find an answer to this but have had no luck. So anyways, a friend of mine has managed to get their hands on 500mg DMT from a VERY reliable source. He has a scale, but doesn't feel it is accurate enough to dose such a sacred substance with it. I was curious to know if, knowing the initial weight, one could dissolve the substance in a set amount of liquid such as distilled water or vinegar and just dose everything out that way? He will be using "The Machine" to blast off.. could one just simply dissolve this in say 10ml vinegar or distilled water and just dose 1 ml onto the copper mesh for a 50mg dose? Assuming proper mixing is applied? ALSO, If one were to be able to do this, what would be the most optimal liquid to dissolve the DMT into? Distilled water and vinegar being the main ones that personally come to mind, would either of those harm the DMT? Thanks everyone! Can't wait to hear your responses!!!
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Re: Volumetrically Dosing DMT? [Re: progoslomo]
#21761621 - 06/04/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you're going to be smoking it soon anyway I think making it into a tincture is kind of a waste of time and resources. I would just store it in an airtight container and eye-ball 1/10th at a time into your smoking device.
You could do the tincture exactly like you say, but I've never had experience doing that. I think you would need a lot more than 10ml to dissolve half a gram. Then once you do drop it into a wire ball or some herb, you have to carefully vape off the acid during the process of smoking it to get it back to freebase. Burning too quick would just destroy it.
I just don't see the benefit to going through that extra work. Sprinkling is as easy as dripping.
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Re: Volumetrically Dosing DMT? [Re: progoslomo]
#21761645 - 06/04/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just start with a tiny pinch and work your way up, after a few tries you should be able to eyeball it
I have a proper scale but its just too much of a hassle to deal with tiny amounts like that every time and because purity varies weight only gives you a general idea of the effects anyway I weighed out the first few doses, but now i just eyeball it and/or dose by how many hits i take
also, weighing your dose assumes that you smoke it with 100% efficiency and thats not gonna happen on your first tries
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Re: Volumetrically Dosing DMT? [Re: progoslomo]
#21761654 - 06/04/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just eye ball it really . Even tho it's sacred stuff , it's relatively safe . Like to go to breakthrough it takes lots of willing.
Also smoking vinegar sounds dirty as shit xD
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progoslomo
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Thanks for the replies so far guys! 
maybe he should just eyeball it... Just go with what seems like the right amount like trying to get 1/10 of the DMT and see if it's enough? Just how dangerous would it be to get like 80mg instead of 50?
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Re: Volumetrically Dosing DMT? [Re: progoslomo]
#21761759 - 06/04/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You'd probably black out for like 10 mins if you manage to smoke the whole 80mg. It's a lot of smoke tho so that's pretty hard you would probably back out before going to that point unless you have major balls and lungs
Just take pinches at first and work your way up
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Just to add on, I've never had any trouble just throwing a bit in the bowl. I only got the expected effects the first time I used it but after that I smoked however much I poured onto the herb. Good luck if you haven already done it 
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Get a GEM mg scale OP. Eyeballing is not the way to get solid doses.
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Jean-guy Masta said: Just eye ball it really . Even tho it's sacred stuff , it's relatively safe . Like to go to breakthrough it takes lots of willing.
Also smoking vinegar sounds dirty as shit xD
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Jean-guy Masta said: You'd probably black out for like 10 mins if you manage to smoke the whole 80mg. It's a lot of smoke tho so that's pretty hard you would probably back out before going to that point unless you have major balls and lungs
Just take pinches at first and work your way up
Hahahah that was the funniest thing I've read on this site. Major balls is right.... Try dabbing it....1 small dose the size of a q-tip head and hold it in until you can't hold any more!
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Re: Volumetrically Dosing DMT? [Re: progoslomo]
#21763795 - 06/04/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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DMT freebase is non-polar, meaning it isn't water soluble. Don't even try to dissolve it in water. I find a dab rig to be perfect.
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s240779

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daytripper05 said: DMT freebase is non-polar, meaning it isn't water soluble. Don't even try to dissolve it in water. I find a dab rig to be perfect.
He said water and vinegar. Adding vinegar immediately converts it to the acetate salt. I personally have done it to get the residue off the wax paper my stuff was enclosed in.
In Europe, citric acid is dispensed at needle exchanges so that heroin users can convert freebase heroin on-the-fly for their shots.. Citric acid would work for DMT as well.
Edited by s240779 (06/05/15 09:41 AM)
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