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SmokeyMcblunts
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Hi I'm new here, been lurking for years. Help with Id?
#21760769 - 06/04/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Habitat: Found on a lawn in a park in spokane Washington last week of May. 85 degrees, 50%+ relative humidity. It had rained the night before. The lawn where these mushrooms were growing had just been watered, and there were mushrooms everywhere. They seemed to favor the taller grass with clovers.
Gills: Brown to black. attached, not dipping below the cap.
Stem: Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc. 1-4" stem, stems would snap if wrapped around a finger(I know that's a common test)
Cap: Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc. Brown to gold. Most had a ring or margin around the edge of the cap that was darker. The caps dried lighter on the larger caps, some of the smaller caps dried black
Spore print color: Very important! Dark purple to black... I have pictures you tell me
Bruising: Color that the mushroom bruises, if any. No bruising Other information: Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.
Smells pleasant. I've taken spore prints from other stuff that smelled horrible, these however smelled like normal white button food mushrooms.



I'm hoping hey are Panaeolus cinctulus
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Walts
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Re: Hi I'm new here, been lurking for years. Help with Id? [Re: SmokeyMcblunts]
#21760832 - 06/04/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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there's definitely some cinctulus in there, you just need to sort them out with spore prints I see one bluing at the base in pic 2
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Anglerfish
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Re: Hi I'm new here, been lurking for years. Help with Id? [Re: Walts]
#21760883 - 06/04/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The only definite thing I can say about your finds is that you got a mixed collection of mainly dark spored species.
In the last picture I probably see both Psathyrella and Panaeolus sp.
You should separate each species by macroscopic features, order them and take good close up shots of each, including all features (caps, gills, stems).
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SmokeyMcblunts
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Re: Hi I'm new here, been lurking for years. Help with Id? [Re: Anglerfish]
#21760913 - 06/04/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you! I had them separated by cap at first, but then it seemed like the only difference was how wet or dry the caps were... I remember seeing some that I thought "might be different" but they ended up looking the same on the spore prints and when the caps dried they all looked identical with the same spore prints. I plan to go hunting again today, maybe I can get some pics of them in their habitat before picking
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Walts
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Re: Hi I'm new here, been lurking for years. Help with Id? [Re: Anglerfish]
#21760922 - 06/04/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said: The only definite thing I can say about your finds is that you got a mixed collection of mainly dark spored species.
In the last picture I probably see both Psathyrella and Panaeolus sp.
You should separate each species by macroscopic features, order them and take good close up shots of each, including all features (caps, gills, stems).
yea i meant to mention there's also a lot of different species in there probably going to be really tough and not worth it if you picked them last week
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Anglerfish
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Re: Hi I'm new here, been lurking for years. Help with Id? [Re: Walts]
#21760953 - 06/04/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Walts said: probably going to be really tough and not worth it if you picked them last week
Ah, yeah I see that now.
Unless OP has a microscope and time enough to key them out, they're best off in the bin.
OP, please make sure you post proper id requests within as short time as possible after picking. Important features will degrade swiftly as the mushrooms dry.
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Re: Hi I'm new here, been lurking for years. Help with Id? [Re: Anglerfish]
#21760978 - 06/04/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you! I will post pics immediately next time. I plan to go out again today if I get the chance. Guess I missed my window of opportunity with these
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Anglerfish
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Re: Hi I'm new here, been lurking for years. Help with Id? [Re: SmokeyMcblunts]
#21761008 - 06/04/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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SmokeyMcblunts said: Thank you! I will post pics immediately next time. I plan to go out again today if I get the chance. Guess I missed my window of opportunity with these
Yes, I'm afraid so.
When you go out again, bring several bags or containers, one for each find. Take pictures in situ, of caps, gills and stems. Very important! Make sure you take up the whole stem including base, as some active species mainly bruise blue in the stem base. A good method to keep order is to number your finds, and make descriptions at once which you jot down on paper.
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Re: Hi I'm new here, been lurking for years. Help with Id? [Re: Anglerfish]
#21761025 - 06/04/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said:
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Walts said: probably going to be really tough and not worth it if you picked them last week
Ah, yeah I see that now.
Unless OP has a microscope and time enough to key them out, they're best off in the bin.
OP, please make sure you post proper id requests within as short time as possible after picking. Important features will degrade swiftly as the mushrooms dry.
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Anglerfish said:
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Walts said: probably going to be really tough and not worth it if you picked them last week
Ah, yeah I see that now.
Unless OP has a microscope and time enough to key them out, they're best off in the bin.
OP, please make sure you post proper id requests within as short time as possible after picking. Important features will degrade swiftly as the mushrooms dry.
Do have a specific microscope I should buy?
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