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OfflineHerbologist
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21762133 - 06/04/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Cops hardly have the most dangerous job in the world. They aren't killed at a rate higher than the general population. They are apparently just pussies at a higher rate than the general population.

There have been 11 cops killed this year. So approximately 34 cops are killed per year. There are a million cops. Well look at that 34 per million. Exactly the same rate of murder for the the entire population. I guess I can go around shooting people who don't show me their hands.





Cops dont have a dangerous job? Wow...  :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist]
    #21762145 - 06/04/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Even the head of the cop union in a Baltimore said that his officers are more worried about going to jail than being shot.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist]
    #21762148 - 06/04/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
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koods said:
Cops hardly have the most dangerous job in the world. They aren't killed at a rate higher than the general population. They are apparently just pussies at a higher rate than the general population.

There have been 11 cops killed this year. So approximately 34 cops are killed per year. There are a million cops. Well look at that 34 per million. Exactly the same rate of murder for the the entire population. I guess I can go around shooting people who don't show me their hands.





Cops dont have a dangerous job? Wow...  :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:




Not according to the statistics they don't. Being a truck driver or a construction worker is far more dangerous than being a Cop. They just whine a lot more and demand respect and call you three times a day asking for donations. Fucking pussies.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21762152 - 06/04/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

your statistics are bogus.


its too bad you guys didnt ever live in a 3rd world country because everything that is being bitched about are 1st world problems


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods] * 3
    #21762155 - 06/04/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't you guys get tired of arguing over the same shit day in and day out?  Some cops are good, some cops are bad. Don't act like an idiot and put yourself in situations that involve the police.

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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist]
    #21762158 - 06/04/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
your statistics are bogus.


its too bad you guys didnt ever live in a 3rd world country because everything that is being bitched about are 1st world problems



No your assumptions and impressions are bogus. You have fallen for their ruse to garner sympathy.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #21762165 - 06/04/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
your statistics are bogus.


its too bad you guys didnt ever live in a 3rd world country because everything that is being bitched about are 1st world problems




Actually these are 3rd world problem. First world countries don't have this problem (except for the US)


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21762174 - 06/04/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How are you even a mod?  Dont you need logical and reasonable thinking? :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist] * 2
    #21762178 - 06/04/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21762181 - 06/04/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe your title should be removed then, because you're lacking.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods] * 1
    #21762183 - 06/04/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just demonstrated with actual number that cops are killed at the same rate as the general population. That is logical and reasonable. You're the one who isn't being reasonable.

And let's not forget that cops kill other people at a rate 29x higher than the general population. So, for a threat that is no greater than your average person walking around they use deadly force 29 times more often.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21762209 - 06/04/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Koods is correct in this situation, I've seen the statistics myself, cops don't even rank in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. Mine actually happens to be in the top 10. He didn't say cops don't have dangerous jobs, he said they don't have the most dangerous job, big difference in wording and meaning there.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21762213 - 06/04/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/06/data-on-police-killings-bucks-media-narrative//#more

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90% of those shot by police were armed with a deadly weapon




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koods said:
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XLCaps said:
If cops are allowed to be extra fearful in their line of work simply because they have a wife and kids, then they shouldn't be in that line of work. Cops are supposed to be trusted to have proper judgement, if their judgement is impaired then they aren't doing their job.




Cops hardly have the most dangerous job in the world. They aren't killed at a rate higher than the general population. They are apparently just pussies at a higher rate than the general population.

There have been 11 cops killed this year. So approximately 34 cops are killed per year. There are a million cops. Well look at that 34 per million. Exactly the same rate of murder for the the entire population. I guess I can go around shooting people who don't show me their hands.




More bullshit from you  54 cops have been killed this year, 16 from gunfire.  Stop lieing
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/?referrer=https://www.google.com/
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koods said:
I just demonstrated with actual number that cops are killed at the same rate as the general population. That is logical and reasonable. You're the one who isn't being reasonable.

And let's not forget that cops kill other people at a rate 29x higher than the general population. So, for a threat that is no greater than your average person walking around they use deadly force 29 times more often.




It is their job to stop scumbags and kill them when necessary to protect themselves and the citizenry.  You keep bringing this bullshit up as if it is an indictment.  It isn't a problem.  It's a feature..


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762233 - 06/04/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok 16 have been killed. The other 38 were bad drivers (which is not surprising considering how fast they fly by me in the highway - they drive like they don't believe the laws apply to them,)


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21762236 - 06/04/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No.  Most of them were run over by assholes during a traffic stop.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762237 - 06/04/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
No.  Most of them were run over by assholes during a traffic stop.



Source
I know at least one of them in Maryland was a cop who was driving 100 mph for no reason when he lost control of his car.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist]
    #21762248 - 06/04/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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All of that is illegal though. You can not walk away from the police when they are trying to talk to you




wrong.

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He kept his hands in his pants where the police could not see what he had, they were responding to a call about a guy with a gun, what were they supposed to think?




they were supposed to think correctly. people put their hands in their pockets all the time, it's not reason for suspicion.

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He turned and saw a cop with a gun pointed at him and didn't show his hands, insulted the cop, and kept retreating




means nothing.

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This guy and his friends were hella drunk in the middle of the day on a week day. I doubt we lost a school teacher or doctor or anything. This wasn't the cure for cancer that just got shot. It was a bum ass thug that has no respect for anyone, obviously not even himself.




you can make all the asinine assumptions you want, you'll still be wrong because you have no ethics.

you only wish you were ethical.

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Because if he cared about himself he would have self preservation.

There are plenty of unjustifiable killings by police these days. This was not one of them.




but if he had the self-preservation to stop himself from getting killed for doing nothing and having been innocent, be defending himself, you'd still think he was a thug. you're biased.

this was a justifiably poor excuse for policing and for society in general, and this society, including you insane freaks of nature, are suffering worse now for it. because you believe in insane slogans that have no real meaning other than to justify your views, and you cannot be swayed. you like the fact for your police performing like the cabal they appear to sometimes be, because it justifies your beliefs, and that's it. you have no thoughts or consideration for the reality of the situation. that the cop had not performed in any way that was sensible or cautious, and only had a itchy trigger finger to show for it all, which got an INNOCENT person killed.

the fact is: the guy was innocent. argue that, because i'd love to you see your fallicious reasoning that you try to justify murder with. because he made a boo-boo? and error? he is only human? who cares, so was the kid. they were both humans and you wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt so why should the cop get it? because he's special? that is your argument defeated.

because according to the argument here, he's only human therefore it was a justified killing because he was doing his job and he had the judgement that his life was in danger. even if it was nothingness he was afraid of; you still pose this ridiculous argument, you and everyone else... you are silly as fucking all hell. if he can be held to that level of honor, so can the kid because they are simply both human. the cop however had a job to do, and he performed like a fucking shitheel. point is: you defend him and you're a supplicating fascist if you think he was right in killing the kid whom was innocent and not holding ANYTHING but a legal ipod.

your argument is thoroughly destroyed. stop talking now.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist]
    #21762251 - 06/04/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
your statistics are bogus.


its too bad you guys didnt ever live in a 3rd world country because everything that is being bitched about are 1st world problems



and while his stats mean nothing and are simply hyperbole (though he has a point, and i think you missed it), besides that, your "stats" that you are using here "regarding thugs", they are just as meaningless and misinformed in their usage here.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21762252 - 06/04/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's how it works
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_stop

Traffic stops are inherently dangerous for police officers, many of whom patrol and conduct stops alone. Officers typically take steps to protect themselves from passing traffic such as using their own car as a shield and/or approaching the suspect vehicle on the passenger side.

https://www.google.com/search?q=police+officers+hit+by+car&oq=police+officers+hit+by+cars&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.10825j0j9&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

26 million hits.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21762256 - 06/04/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
Quote:

All of that is illegal though. You can not walk away from the police when they are trying to talk to you




wrong.

Quote:

He kept his hands in his pants where the police could not see what he had, they were responding to a call about a guy with a gun, what were they supposed to think?




they were supposed to think correctly. people put their hands in their pockets all the time, it's not reason for suspicion.

Quote:

He turned and saw a cop with a gun pointed at him and didn't show his hands, insulted the cop, and kept retreating




means nothing.

Quote:

This guy and his friends were hella drunk in the middle of the day on a week day. I doubt we lost a school teacher or doctor or anything. This wasn't the cure for cancer that just got shot. It was a bum ass thug that has no respect for anyone, obviously not even himself.




you can make all the asinine assumptions you want, you'll still be wrong because you have no ethics.

you only wish you were ethical.

Quote:

Because if he cared about himself he would have self preservation.

There are plenty of unjustifiable killings by police these days. This was not one of them.




but if he had the self-preservation to stop himself from getting killed for doing nothing and having been innocent, be defending himself, you'd still think he was a thug. you're biased.

this was a justifiably poor excuse for policing and for society in general, and this society, including you insane freaks of nature, are suffering worse now for it. because you believe in insane slogans that have no real meaning other than to justify your views, and you cannot be swayed. you like the fact for your police performing like the cabal they appear to sometimes be, because it justifies your beliefs, and that's it. you have no thoughts or consideration for the reality of the situation. that the cop had not performed in any way that was sensible or cautious, and only had a itchy trigger finger to show for it all, which got an INNOCENT person killed.

the fact is: the guy was innocent. argue that, because i'd love to you see your fallicious reasoning that you try to justify murder with. because he made a boo-boo? and error? he is only human? who cares, so was the kid. they were both humans and you wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt so why should the cop get it? because he's special? that is your argument defeated.

because according to the argument here, he's only human therefore it was a justified killing because he was doing his job and he had the judgement that his life was in danger. even if it was nothingness he was afraid of; you still pose this ridiculous argument, you and everyone else... you are silly as fucking all hell. if he can be held to that level of honor, so can the kid because they are simply both human. the cop however had a job to do, and he performed like a fucking shitheel. point is: you defend him and you're a supplicating fascist if you think he was right in killing the kid whom was innocent and not holding ANYTHING but a legal ipod.

your argument is thoroughly destroyed. stop talking now.




Why are you replying to me?  I said at the beginning I wouldn't defend this particular incident.


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