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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21761979 - 06/04/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

naturally, because cops tend to have to cover their ass for tons of shit, because they're crappy people (those cops).


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21761981 - 06/04/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If cops are allowed to be extra fearful in their line of work simply because they have a wife and kids, then they shouldn't be in that line of work. Cops are supposed to be trusted to have proper judgement, if their judgement is impaired then they aren't doing their job.



They are extra alert because while everybody else is running away they are running in.  Why is this such a difficult concept?


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21761988 - 06/04/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How does being hyperalert and having a family tie into each other.

Life is about survival, self preservation.

By nature, fight or flight.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21761989 - 06/04/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Way over your head.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: KnyggaPlease]
    #21761991 - 06/04/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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KnyggaPlease said:
How does being hyperalert and having a family tie into each other.

Life is about survival, self preservation.

By nature, fight or flight.




I didn't say it did and they can't flee.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: KnyggaPlease]
    #21762000 - 06/04/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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KnyggaPlease said:
How does being hyperalert and having a family tie into each other.

Life is about survival, self preservation.

By nature, fight or flight.



yes, more slogan's please, Derpfirm.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21762001 - 06/04/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Way over your head.




I have serious issues with your assessment of what constitutes proper judgment especially in an exigent circumstance requiring instant decision making.  I sure as fuck wouldn't want to be your partner.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762005 - 06/04/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i wouldn't want to be civilian either.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762008 - 06/04/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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KnyggaPlease said:
How does being hyperalert and having a family tie into each other.

Life is about survival, self preservation.

By nature, fight or flight.




I didn't say it did and they can't flee.





Not u man it was directed at XLCAPS


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Akira too lol


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: KnyggaPlease]
    #21762013 - 06/04/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

good God sir, this is a forum of dicsussion, not one of your Chowderhouses.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21762014 - 06/04/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That kid walked away from the cops. That kid had his hands in his pants/pockets and kept walking backwards away from the cop. The cop kept screaming, obviouy he heard him or he wouldn't have turned around.

This will be ruled justified.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21762022 - 06/04/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

just look at your very own logic here, it is dysfunctional to the highest degree, it doesn't even make sense, i think you've left out alot of pertinent information!

that kid walked away? not illegal. he had his hands in his pockets? not illegal. he kept walking backwards from a cop pointing a gun at him when he's done nothing wrong? not only not illegal, and sane too.

the cop was screaming and he obviously heard him or he wouldn't have turned around? not illegal, and who cares? he heard someone, and he obviously (i can do that too right?) didn't hear WHAT was said, so he wanted to HEAR what was said so he aimed to remove his headwear, or stop his music, which rendered him killed. he not only did nothing illegal or wrong, but only acted completely sane,... and you are INSANE.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21762037 - 06/04/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think the kid was playing games with the cops that day, that still doesn't justify the shooting.

The kid didn't know the cops were there to find a suspect that was waving a gun around the area, otherwise he wouldn't have been non-compliant. 

Under a normal set of circumstances the cop wouldn't have been so trigger happy, but he was sure that the guy was the suspect they were looking for and that he was armed with a gun, there was poor judgments on both parties.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: qman]
    #21762043 - 06/04/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it's too bad people can't see that.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21762078 - 06/04/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol you're the one who fails to see it akira like I mentioned on pave 7, you weren't the cop and you have no way of understanding his perception of the situation as it was unfolding


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21762087 - 06/04/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
just look at your very own logic here, it is dysfunctional to the highest degree, it doesn't even make sense, i think you've left out alot of pertinent information!

that kid walked away? not illegal. he had his hands in his pockets? not illegal. he kept walking backwards from a cop pointing a gun at him when he's done nothing wrong? not only not illegal, and sane too.

the cop was screaming and he obviously heard him or he wouldn't have turned around? not illegal, and who cares? he heard someone, and he obviously (i can do that too right?) didn't hear WHAT was said, so he wanted to HEAR what was said so he aimed to remove his headwear, or stop his music, which rendered him killed. he not only did nothing illegal or wrong, but only acted completely sane,... and you are INSANE.




All of that is illegal though. You can not walk away from the police when they are trying to talk to you. He saw the car pull up and walked the opposite direction to get away from them. He kept his hands in his pants where the police could not see what he had, they were responding to a call about a guy with a gun, what were they supposed to think? He turned and saw a cop with a gun pointed at him and didn't show his hands, insulted the cop, and kept retreating.

This guy and his friends were hella drunk in the middle of the day on a week day. I doubt we lost a school teacher or doctor or anything. This wasn't the cure for cancer that just got shot. It was a bum ass thug that has no respect for anyone, obviously not even himself. Because if he cared about himself he would have self preservation.

There are plenty of unjustifiable killings by police these days. This was not one of them.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21762095 - 06/04/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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All of that is illegal though. You can not walk away from the police when they are trying to talk to you.




Yes you absolutely can, unless you're under arrest which they need probable cause in order to do, which from the video we don't know if they had or not, and how is that guy supposed to know if he is if they're just showing up.

Next time a cop comes up to you and says I have some questions, keep walking while saying "are you detaining me or am I free to go" which is fully legal to do unless they detain you on the spot which they need probable cause that you committed a crime to do.

Not saying one way or another whether the cop is right or wrong, but you can definitely walk aay from the police when they try talking to you, I've done it at least 7 times.

They can't detain and talk to you for no reason, and maybe they think you're suspicious, still not a reason, they need probable cause or reasonable suspicion, meaning you match the description to a T and it has to be a detailed description.

In case anyone cares I'll add in one of the times I did this so don't bother reading the rest if you dn't care....I was near apartments a few months back walking back from a store, a police officer pulled up next to me and leaped out and asked to talk for a minute, I don't have anything against any individual police officer unless they give me a reason so I asked what I could help him with.

He said there's been reports of a white guy that robbed 3 apartments in the past day or two, do you have I.d. on you.....at this point, it's obvious he's trying to put my name in his database which is when I stop helping them, I said yes I do, he said can you show it to me, I said are you detaining me or am I free to go, he said I matched a description that witnesses gave to which I replied, are you detaining me or am I free to go....he didn't answer and told me to wait there, went back in his car for a minute, talked on his talkie for a minute or two, came back out and said I was free to go.

You don't even have to show them I.D. unless you are suspected of a crime that they have probable cause to believe you commited. You aren't guilty until proven innocent, and that is why we have these rights.


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    #21762109 - 06/04/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, that shooting was clearl not justified.

Not a single threat.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21762122 - 06/04/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
If cops are allowed to be extra fearful in their line of work simply because they have a wife and kids, then they shouldn't be in that line of work. Cops are supposed to be trusted to have proper judgement, if their judgement is impaired then they aren't doing their job.




Cops hardly have the most dangerous job in the world. They aren't killed at a rate higher than the general population. They are apparently just pussies at a higher rate than the general population.

There have been 11 cops killed this year. So approximately 34 cops are killed per year. There are a million cops. Well look at that 34 per million. Exactly the same rate of murder for the the entire population. I guess I can go around shooting people who don't show me their hands.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21762127 - 06/04/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My job has a higher risk of death then a police officer according to the statistics I've seen on it. Bow to me and respect me NOW :smile:


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