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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist]
    #21761515 - 06/04/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Either way.  Not immediately complying with a police officer could end your day for good.  I think we can all agree on that.




But it shouldnt be that way, thats what im saying and thats what most people are trying to change.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21761582 - 06/04/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What should they have done differently, and at what point in time?


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21761644 - 06/04/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Made sure he had a weapon, and dont tell me hes fast enough to raise a weapon, aim, and fire it before they got a glimpse of it.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21761674 - 06/04/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If you can sit through the first 45 seconds or so of the video, then you can see all this happen. It's actually pretty clear. You should take those meds you claim to have.




no. you misunderstand. let me clarify. you don't shoot some for looking at someone and saying something to them.

now take your meds... and go away permanently.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21761682 - 06/04/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Calling him a fool doesn't justify it alone. Calling the cop a fool while a gun is pointed at him shows a disregard for the command to put his hands up, and it shows that the guy behaves impulsively. That coupled with the hand movements shows a deliberate failure to comply with a command that was intended to make the situation safer for everybody involved. A jackass who insults a guy with a gun is a dangerous jackass, and it's reasonable to assume that he may reach for a weapon, especially when he starts reaching for something.



how can he put his hands up if they are in his pockets, goof troop?


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: KnyggaPlease]
    #21761685 - 06/04/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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He had his headphones on, did it ever cross your mind that he was reaching for his phone to shut his music off? Is that not even on your fucking radar? Not to mention they had guns drawn already, a split second to visually confirm what he was reaching for rather then murdering some innocent kid for putting his hands in his pocket wouldve been a slightly better alternative to what happened? WOULDNT IT? THATS A PRETTY FUCKING COMMON GESTURE WHEN YOUR TALKING TO SOMEONE.

FUCK.




When the cop pulled up dude saw him and walked away, pay closer attention


um, 1 not illegal 2 stop talking now, 3 no, really stop talking now.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist]
    #21761694 - 06/04/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Either way.  Not immediately complying with a police officer could end your day for good.  I think we can all agree on that.



WOW, YES, WE ALL FUCKING AGREE. how many of these FUCKING DUMB comments about how things are do we have to suffer through? GOD DAMN, these comments....

do you have anything else to say? yes, it's dangerous around cops... even if you have your hands in your pocket for ANY REASON when they pop up out of nowhere, they are now dangerous weapons... because everyone... including you... are :flowstone:


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21761703 - 06/04/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I rewatched it and it looks like the guy is walking away and setting his iPod. Someone running away from the cops isn't gonna whip out their iPod. Then he's putting it in his pockets as the cop speaks to him and he turns around to see a guy pointing a gun at him, which is reasonably why he was backing away. The cop shoots him just as he's doing what the cop was asking him to do.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21761706 - 06/04/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No not illegal you're correct.

Let's reenact the scenario in your point of view.

Starting with the phone call making the report yo the police about someone waving a gun at a store.

Person calling: I'd like to report someone is wavin a gun at a store.

911: Where are you located

Person calling: blah blah blah

911: Do you have a description of the subject

Person calling: uh, no.  I don't.  (Lol right... only in your eyes Akira)

911: then who the fuck are we looking for :rolleyes:

10 min later cop pulls up, crowd separates but nobody walks away but this one dude who blatantly ignored the cop, maybe he did but then reaches in his pocket while the cop is hyperalert, using fear as his strength doing his fucking job to feed his kids and wife...

Go take your faggot hippie tree hugging shit elsewhere :peyotezen:


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21761707 - 06/04/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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Mr.GuessWork said:
Calling him a fool doesn't justify it alone. Calling the cop a fool while a gun is pointed at him shows a disregard for the command to put his hands up, and it shows that the guy behaves impulsively. That coupled with the hand movements shows a deliberate failure to comply with a command that was intended to make the situation safer for everybody involved. A jackass who insults a guy with a gun is a dangerous jackass, and it's reasonable to assume that he may reach for a weapon, especially when he starts reaching for something.



how can he put his hands up if they are in his pockets, goof troop?




By taking them out of his pockets and raising them up. What are you confused about? Do when need to dumb down public education a little more to make it accessible for you?


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: MichAnon.ael]
    #21761708 - 06/04/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean, you got guys like zappa on here sayin he'd be whackin people 'out of self preservation' if there were no cops. Hah, be afraid, we're all animals hah!



walk soft and carry a big stick.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21761715 - 06/04/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
I rewatched it and it looks like the guy is walking away and setting his iPod. Someone running away from the cops isn't gonna whip out their iPod. Then he's putting it in his pockets as the cop speaks to him and he turns around to see a guy pointing a gun at him, which is reasonably why he was backing away. The cop shoots him just as he's doing what the cop was asking him to do.




It does look that way now that I rewatched too.


EDIT: His hands might have even been whipped forward by the gun shot


Edited by Mr.GuessWork (06/04/15 01:37 PM)


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: KnyggaPlease]
    #21761739 - 06/04/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No not illegal you're correct.

Let's reenact the scenario in your point of view.

Starting with the phone call making the report yo the police about someone waving a gun at a store.

Person calling: I'd like to report someone is wavin a gun at a store.

911: Where are you located

Person calling: blah blah blah

911: Do you have a description of the subject

Person calling: uh, no.  I don't.  (Lol right... only in your eyes Akira)

911: then who the fuck are we looking for :rolleyes:

10 min later cop pulls up, crowd separates but nobody walks away but this one dude who blatantly ignored the cop, maybe he did but then reaches in his pocket while the cop is hyperalert, using fear as his strength doing his fucking job to feed his kids and wife...

Go take your faggot hippie tree hugging shit elsewhere :peyotezen:



did you know what you just said? pure fucking junk.
"using fear as his strength doing his fucking job to feed his kids and wife..."? you cannot use that fucking doofus's family and your personal incredulity to make up for pure idiocy. on all accounts. your personal idiocy and this forum's pertinent idiocy over cop's and their idiocy. all accounts...dumb.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #21761741 - 06/04/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If cops are allowed to be extra fearful in their line of work simply because they have a wife and kids, then they shouldn't be in that line of work. Cops are supposed to be trusted to have proper judgement, if their judgement is impaired then they aren't doing their job.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21761757 - 06/04/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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Herbologist said:
Either way.  Not immediately complying with a police officer could end your day for good.  I think we can all agree on that.



WOW, YES, WE ALL FUCKING AGREE. how many of these FUCKING DUMB comments about how things are do we have to suffer through? GOD DAMN, these comments....

do you have anything else to say? yes, it's dangerous around cops... even if you have your hands in your pocket for ANY REASON when they pop up out of nowhere, they are now dangerous weapons... because everyone... including you... are :flowstone:





Lol gtfo out of here dude youre just a condescending idiot flapping his mouth off.  Go cry elsewhere.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Herbologist]
    #21761773 - 06/04/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you are a flagellant and delusional.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21761783 - 06/04/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:cryaboutit:


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
    #21761793 - 06/04/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No. The numbers don't lie. They kill at a much higher rate than any demographic including the people you are thinking of.



Did you know 13% of black Americans are responsible for 52% of all homicides? They must all be criminals, right?


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21761800 - 06/04/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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KnyggaPlease said:
No not illegal you're correct.

Let's reenact the scenario in your point of view.

Starting with the phone call making the report yo the police about someone waving a gun at a store.

Person calling: I'd like to report someone is wavin a gun at a store.

911: Where are you located

Person calling: blah blah blah

911: Do you have a description of the subject

Person calling: uh, no.  I don't.  (Lol right... only in your eyes Akira)

911: then who the fuck are we looking for :rolleyes:

10 min later cop pulls up, crowd separates but nobody walks away but this one dude who blatantly ignored the cop, maybe he did but then reaches in his pocket while the cop is hyperalert, using fear as his strength doing his fucking job to feed his kids and wife...

Go take your faggot hippie tree hugging shit elsewhere :peyotezen:



did you know what you just said? pure fucking junk.
"using fear as his strength doing his fucking job to feed his kids and wife..."? you cannot use that fucking doofus's family and your personal incredulity to make up for pure idiocy. on all accounts. your personal idiocy and this forum's pertinent idiocy over cop's and their idiocy. all accounts...dumb.





It's an unfortunate event at best.  You don't know events preceeding, you certainly don't know that officers perception of the situation at the time.  The cop saw what he saw, what we all saw he's aware someone had a weapon he doesn't know who.  He chooses rhe individual acting suspicious as someone he should detain and the individual doesn't listen.  My perception would be negative all around and I would become hyperalert myself.  Then dude reaches in his pocket and the cop shoots.  He remained professional called for backup and a medic and reported shots fired.  He then checked the suspect verified there was no muscle tension and began searching.

You think he's happy about what he did?
Remember the officer has a fucking conscious too and he has to live with this shit the rest of his life and he is certainly not somen ruthless killer.

Your view is entirely one sided and incredibly closed minded. Your argument in this matter has no substance and this post has substance for your own referance.  Seeing both sides of the situation and stating facts.


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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: xanderofpella]
    #21761801 - 06/04/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oops. I fucked that up. While black Americans make up 13% of the population, They are responsible for 52% of all homicides*


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