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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
#21762258 - 06/04/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: No. Most of them were run over by assholes during a traffic stop.
Source I know at least one of them in Maryland was a cop who was driving 100 mph for no reason when he lost control of his car.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
#21762260 - 06/04/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have to agree with Akira again, doesn't matter if he wasn't a doctor or teacher or anything, innocent is innocent.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21762264 - 06/04/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: Don't you guys get tired of arguing over the same shit day in and day out? Some cops are good, some cops are bad. Don't act like an idiot and put yourself in situations that involve the police.
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there is a problem. some people actually think that someone being an idiot renders them sufficient for death.
it's not the case and it isn't the law. furthermore, it's just plain unethical and unscrupulous, the incidents and the reaction. all of it. terrible.
if the case is that this kind of thing is ok, then there are alot of idiots out there that need to be killed, and some of them post on the shroomery.
sad world we live in where people who simply are held up to be "an idiot" (which we all are in certain lengths) are to atone by being shot dead, and that that's the only acceptable solution because it was a cop doing the killing. so, these pussies get to live, but anyone else, fuck em, they ain't cop.
fuck that insurmountable pile of bullshit. people when they act like this need to be stopped, sharpened blades of shit should be thrown at them at pleasure to shut up this kind of inadequacy.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
#21762265 - 06/04/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Being hit by a car has nothing to do with their need to use deadly force. Maybe they should be more careful when pulling people over and stop pulling people over for no reason. My sympathies for the police has expired. I didn't care how many are killed. The fewer cops the better.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
#21762266 - 06/04/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why are you replying to me? I said at the beginning I wouldn't defend this particular incident.
honestly, i have noooo idea how it ended up replying to you, at all. not in the least, so i didn't notice, thanks for the heads-up.
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SirShroomsAlott said: I have to agree with Akira again, doesn't matter if he wasn't a doctor or teacher or anything, innocent is innocent.
Which is why calling him a fool was more then justified. Fuckin retard couldnt even get the right guy. To top it off he ordered him to put his hands in the air just before he shot him. He shot him for complying.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
#21762272 - 06/04/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Being hit by a car has nothing to do with their need to use deadly force. Maybe they should be more careful when pulling people over and stop pulling people over for no reason. My sympathies for the police has expired. I didn't care how many are killed. The fewer cops the better.
I was responding to your general assertion that only 11 cops had been killed this year. That is quite clearly bullshit as is your idiotic argument that because more people are killed by cops than cops are killed is somehow indicative of them being a criminal enterprise. I also posted the real murder stats in Chicago alone. Why do you want to leave minorities unprotected?
Not all cop shooting are justified. Just the vast majority of them so your use of raw statistics is stupid, disingenuous and jejune.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#21762275 - 06/04/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i have no respect for foolish cops who try to hide behind their badge when they commit to a serious error.
they should be fucking fucked in the ass with jiffy lubed batons.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
#21762277 - 06/04/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry if I'm just butting in, but I think you're taking what akira and koods is saying wrong Herbologist, he isn't saying cops are all evil or whatever and that they don't have dangerous jobs.
To me at least, it appears as if his whole point revolves around them being held accountable for their actions. Wrong is wrong, innocent is innocent, and there are cops who are trigger happy. I don't think anyone who isn't a retard would claim full out that every single cop is a piece of shit, and if they do, refer back to my comment about attacking the effect rather then the cause.
They are there to uphold the law, they work within the same law we all do, and if they kill an innocent person who was not a threat because they were to quick to pull the trigger, then sorry to say, they should be held accountable for that, the same way anyone who isn't a cop should be too.
Especially when they have multiple forms of nonlethal weapons they can use to take someone down easily sitting right next to that gun.
Please correct me akira so I'm not putting words in your mouth if I'm mistaken.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: SirShroomsAlott] 1
#21762284 - 06/04/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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no, you're entirely correct. 
but to be fair: all the biggun's that has happened were all shown to be quite the escapade for both parties (police and criminal); but the Zimmerman case will forever stain the perception of "self-defence" in America. all because of an idiot doing idiot things.
and that last riot... i don't even recall where, and i never looked into the case, but it seemed off putting to me, the story anyways, which i honestly forget now. but either way, the case is strong, in my opinion, that the police are fervently incompetent at best.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
#21762290 - 06/04/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They should start airing compliance commercials. They could be stark and super serious, like national emergency broadcasts. White text on a red background proceeded by a klaxon.
"Warning in the event you are stopped by the police absolute compliance is mandatory. Failure to comply can and will result in death. The state will not be held liable for loss of life."
Just so everyones aware of what a police state they live in.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#21762294 - 06/04/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah, they really should.
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SirShroomsAlott said: Sorry if I'm just butting in, but I think you're taking what akira and koods is saying wrong Herbologist, he isn't saying cops are all evil or whatever and that they don't have dangerous jobs.
To me at least, it appears as if his whole point revolves around them being held accountable for their actions. Wrong is wrong, innocent is innocent, and there are cops who are trigger happy. I don't think anyone who isn't a retard would claim full out that every single cop is a piece of shit, and if they do, refer back to my comment about attacking the effect rather then the cause.
They are there to uphold the law, they work within the same law we all do, and if they kill an innocent person who was not a threat because they were to quick to pull the trigger, then sorry to say, they should be held accountable for that, the same way anyone who isn't a cop should be too.
Especially when they have multiple forms of nonlethal weapons they can use to take someone down easily sitting right next to that gun.
Please correct me akira so I'm not putting words in your mouth if I'm mistaken.
I think cop culture is evil and even the good cops have to exist in an evil culture that eventually corrupts them. Truly good cops resign. Trying to expose wrong doing within police departments gets good cops fired, demoted or killed.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
#21762304 - 06/04/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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or turn P.I.
it's really the institutionalization that corrupts.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma]
#21762306 - 06/04/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i have no respect for foolish cops who try to hide behind their badge when they commit to a serious error.
they should be fucking fucked in the ass with jiffy lubed batons.
I aGree. But the rampant knee jerk idiocy here is annoying. I posted a link that showed 90% of police shootings involved some asshole with a lethal weapon. Like this asshole http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/usaama-rahim-boston-terrorism-suspect-planned-beheading-authorities-say.html
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BOSTON — Investigators had been watching Usaamah Abdullah Rahim long enough to know about his avid interest in Islamic State militants, but when they overheard him talking on a cellphone about beheading Massachusetts police officers, they moved in, leading to a confrontation Tuesday morning outside a pharmacy here that left Mr. Rahim dead and once again raised alarms about the influence of foreign extremists on homegrown radicals.
The shooting occurred in the fairly quiet neighborhood of Roslindale on a routine weekday morning, when officials said an F.B.I. agent and a Boston police officer fired on Mr. Rahim after he threatened them with a knife. The shooting quickly and suddenly revealed what officials described as a lengthy terrorism investigation, with several law enforcement agencies looking into a suspected murder plot that involved at least two other people, including a relative of Mr. Rahim’s who was charged Wednesday with conspiracy.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
#21762313 - 06/04/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree to an extent, but I personally think attacking the cops is still the wrong approach, the cops are the effect, the cause are the laws and guidelines in which they are trained and protected under even in situations where they were clearly wrong, which is what we should be attacking.
The way they operate...hell even most of the laws they uphold, are just plain bullshit, and that IMO is the true problem, but they are trained to operate a certain way and have laws protecting them which is what I think the true problem is.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: zappaisgod]
#21762314 - 06/04/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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well, who complained about that one? personally, any Islamic with a knife, in public, OLOL, cannot be trusted. we need c9 on that shit.
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I aGree. But the rampant knee jerk idiocy here is annoying. I posted a link that showed 90% of police shootings involved some asshole with a lethal weapon.
i haven't seen much big hub-bub threads here about anyone regarding an armed individual. only unarmed ones. those of which i am concerned with the ethics of... not the ones including defending someone who was clearly violent... i am not a panderer. i don't need to defend everyone who's been ever slighted by life in the world.
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: koods]
#21762336 - 06/04/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: Sorry if I'm just butting in, but I think you're taking what akira and koods is saying wrong Herbologist, he isn't saying cops are all evil or whatever and that they don't have dangerous jobs.
To me at least, it appears as if his whole point revolves around them being held accountable for their actions. Wrong is wrong, innocent is innocent, and there are cops who are trigger happy. I don't think anyone who isn't a retard would claim full out that every single cop is a piece of shit, and if they do, refer back to my comment about attacking the effect rather then the cause.
They are there to uphold the law, they work within the same law we all do, and if they kill an innocent person who was not a threat because they were to quick to pull the trigger, then sorry to say, they should be held accountable for that, the same way anyone who isn't a cop should be too.
Especially when they have multiple forms of nonlethal weapons they can use to take someone down easily sitting right next to that gun.
Please correct me akira so I'm not putting words in your mouth if I'm mistaken.
I think cop culture is evil and even the good cops have to exist in an evil culture that eventually corrupts them. Truly good cops resign.
More relentless bullshit from you. You lie and obfuscate for no reason I can discern. I will repeat myself, if it wasn't for the cops people like you would be slaves or dead. A bunch of Flounders
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Re: Seriously unjustified shooting by a cop [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#21762340 - 06/04/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: well, who complained about that one? personally, any Islamic with a knife, in public, OLOL, cannot be trusted. we need c9 on that shit.
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I aGree. But the rampant knee jerk idiocy here is annoying. I posted a link that showed 90% of police shootings involved some asshole with a lethal weapon.
i haven't seen much big hub-bub threads here about anyone regarding an armed individual. only unarmed ones. those of which i am concerned with the ethics of... not the ones including defending someone who was clearly violent... i am not a panderer. i don't need to defend everyone who's been ever slighted by life in the world.
What I see from koods and shroomism is a blanket condemnation of ALL police. Which is stupid.
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#21762353 - 06/04/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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well, it isn't very productive. this issue should just be toppled already. some cops are not even legally guilty of anything, not necessarily, but are still guilty (not legally) of being foolish. that's my complaint. too much people defending what are reproachable by cops, whom should be a helpful almost hero... like an athlete, someone you look UP TO. it's not right to honor someone who is dutiful beyond the ethics of the country they serve, and my ethics do not include wasting people simply for making a mistake. that's MY issue.
for either sake. i can't condone this kind of ill situational awareness.
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