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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: koods]
    #21783941 - 06/09/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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My mother has a trans friend and I hate to say it, she walks like a man. I don't know exactly what it is that makes a walk male or female, but I perceive it.




Does she step with her toes pointing outward?


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #21783950 - 06/09/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:O

I think i'll take that :smile:

it's a start on the long road... (▰˘◡˘▰)

And for my own vanity's sake, the earlier, the better but looking how Macey is so pretty is inspiring. to say at the least.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21783955 - 06/09/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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My mother has a trans friend and I hate to say it, she walks like a man. I don't know exactly what it is that makes a walk male or female, but I perceive it.




Does she step with her toes pointing outward?



It may be the length of her gait. I dunno do your toes pojnt outward if you take long steps?


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: koods]
    #21783964 - 06/09/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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My mother has a trans friend and I hate to say it, she walks like a man. I don't know exactly what it is that makes a walk male or female, but I perceive it.




You want to hear something funny, every single one of my friends and boyfriends has commented that I have such a man walk. :lol: EVERYBODY comments on it, it's not even funny. They say I walk exactly like one of those bodybuilder guys in the gym who's so buff he's swinging his arms so far out from his body.

I apparently also need the voice training, BS, because not even lying, 100% of strangers I talk to on the phone call me Mister or Sir. Not 50%, not even 75%, but goddamn fucking ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Crystal G]
    #21783984 - 06/09/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And yet you can't suck a dick like a man. :wink:


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Beanhead]
    #21783999 - 06/09/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Say higher and higher scales until your voice starts to crack. Now, practice that octave over and over, for two minutes, every hour. Record your sessions. The idea is to raise your pitch without losing tone (we're trying to avoid squeaky falsetto voice here, remember you're a woman, not a member of Monty Python) by one or two octaves, depending on how deep your current natural voice is. Also, when you feel you're ready to begin finding a speaking voice, start keeping a voice diary. Talking to strangers over the phone is a good way to gauge your progress without exposing yourself too much, people will call you "Miss" etc. if you are pulling it off. Be careful that you don't get dehydrated, and take a break if you get a sore throat, and take a weekend or two off each month. Consistent practice (5-10 sessions a day) and a willingness to experiment will get you there faster. If you begin to use your new voice daily, to the exclusion of your old voice, your natural pitch will gradually catch up over time and it will get easier and easier.

It's a simple method, but it takes a fair bit of time and effort before you start getting real results. If you are thinking about transitioning, definitely a good idea to start early on voice training. I started late and it was very awkward for a few months when I had visibly feminized but was still speaking with a very deep, masculine sounding voice. People would continue to misgender me most of the time no matter what I wore, whether I put on makeup etc. But now that I have a semi decent voice going, I haven't been misgendered in over a month. :feelsgoodgurl: Voice is HUGE.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: koods]
    #21784044 - 06/09/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I tried to type in "man walk" in Youtube to try and show you guys exactly what I walk like. Didn't find what I was looking for, but found a related video that's a play off the "10 hours of walking in NYC as a woman." I said similar, because cross-dressers and drag queens aren't the same as TG, but it's kind of a similar concept.





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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21784085 - 06/09/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Say higher and higher scales until your voice starts to crack. Now, practice that octave over and over, for two minutes, every hour. Record your sessions. The idea is to raise your pitch without losing tone (we're trying to avoid squeaky falsetto voice here, remember you're a woman, not a member of Monty Python) by one or two octaves, depending on how deep your current natural voice is. Also, when you feel you're ready to begin finding a speaking voice, start keeping a voice diary. Talking to strangers over the phone is a good way to gauge your progress without exposing yourself too much, people will call you "Miss" etc. if you are pulling it off. Be careful that you don't get dehydrated, and take a break if you get a sore throat, and take a weekend or two off each month. Consistent practice (5-10 sessions a day) and a willingness to experiment will get you there faster. If you begin to use your new voice daily, to the exclusion of your old voice, your natural pitch will gradually catch up over time and it will get easier and easier.

It's a simple method, but it takes a fair bit of time and effort before you start getting real results. If you are thinking about transitioning, definitely a good idea to start early on voice training. I started late and it was very awkward for a few months when I had visibly feminized but was still speaking with a very deep, masculine sounding voice. People would continue to misgender me most of the time no matter what I wore, whether I put on makeup etc. Voice is HUGE.




Honestly if I were to transition to a male, I would not need voice-training at all. :lol: I already have the deep, husky man voice. I actually have to record my "leave a voicemail" messages on my phone on days when I have a cold and my voice is way higher-pitched and more nasally and squeaky. People hear my voicemail and they're like "WHAT THE FUCK  that voice sounds nothing like you bro" :lol:

Shit my voice got so deep when I was a heavy smoker, that I sounded like a fucking black man. :lol: I should take a recording of my voice sometime, nobody ever believes me about the voice until they hear that shit in person or over the phone.


Also, I found the fucking man walk that I do!!!! SCROLL TO 30 SECONDS, I DO THAT EXACT SAME FUCKING WALK :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:




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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Crystal G]
    #21784112 - 06/09/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Even if you did have a high, feminine voice, you would not need to do voice training. Testosterone induces new muscle growth in the throat which is not reversed by male to female HRT, so only MtF's have to do voice training. For FtM's, the voice changes by itself. It takes trans men less work in general to "pass". Lucky bastards.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21784252 - 06/09/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Even if you did have a high, feminine voice, you would not need to do voice training. Testosterone induces new muscle growth in the throat which is not reversed by male to female HRT, so only MtF's have to do voice training. For FtM's, the voice changes by itself. It takes trans men less work in general to "pass". Lucky bastards.




I must have always had naturally high testosterone levels then, because ever since I was a teenager even, 50% of the time I was still getting confused for a man. As I grew into adulthood, from my early 20's, my voice kept getting deeper and deeper. When I was a smoker that shit got TOOOOO deep, even for my standards.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: koods]
    #21784275 - 06/09/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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And yet you can't suck a dick like a man. :wink:




Oh, I can. Just not as good as my ex. Because he was the queen of the BJ. Such a size queen too, he broke my damn favorite vibrator! Didn't even have the courtesy to replace it. Dick.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Crystal G]
    #21784332 - 06/09/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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My mother has a trans friend and I hate to say it, she walks like a man. I don't know exactly what it is that makes a walk male or female, but I perceive it.





I apparently also need the voice training, BS, because not even lying, 100% of strangers I talk to on the phone call me Mister or Sir. Not 50%, not even 75%, but goddamn fucking ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.




I don't know about what strangers think but I can attest that it is 100% true that her voice would almost always be mistaken as male.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21784459 - 06/09/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

sometimes i feel like i sound like a male, but i don't think that's actually true probably.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #21784486 - 06/09/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

u were freaking out bro


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Acidic_Sloth] * 1
    #21784519 - 06/09/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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sometimes i feel like i sound like a male, but i don't think that's actually true probably.



Trust me, you do not sound anywhere close to as masculine as Crystal does.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21784525 - 06/09/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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sometimes i feel like i sound like a male, but i don't think that's actually true probably.



Trust me, you do not sound anywhere close to as masculine as Crystal does.




For some reason this makes me happy. :strokebeard: WHY DOES THIS MAKE ME HAPPY!!!!!!!! :crankey:


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Crystal G]
    #21784537 - 06/09/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Because you want to feel special.  And you are.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21784545 - 06/09/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Crystal G's dog agrees


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: Sheekle]
    #21784559 - 06/09/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Crystal's dog is a salt junkie.


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Re: Caitlyn Jenner..... everybody is coming out these days! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21784565 - 06/09/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's why I let my dog suck my dick. He's just cleaning all the salt out of me. Really, it's nothing sexual.


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