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Offlinejannick1991
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potency diffents if genetic is the same
    #21760266 - 06/04/15 04:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hello shroomers.

i have been reading a lot about potency between different cubensis Types/strains.

many peoble seem to agree that there is no different in potency between species, but between good gens and bad ones, and i agree so far.

but know i have tried many differnts strains and it seems to me that potency and trip is pretty musch the same, when it coms to visuals, and felling in my body. 3grams always give me the same trip with B+ offcause i have tried a few times whit minimum effects but my guess would bad handling of the mushroom after picking them. i8f i change strains i will get whole knew trip and and some strains like mezatep and gt i dont have to eat as musch as i bwould with B+.

så my question is:
is there anyone who have tried make masterculture slants, of to very popular popular and discussed stains like B+ the big yielder and gt the hard hitter ?

appoligize for my english spelling i hop its readable 

peace:)


Edited by jannick1991 (06/04/15 04:32 AM)


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OfflineYaMoonSun
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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: jannick1991]
    #21760273 - 06/04/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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jannick1991 said:
is there anyone who have tried make masterculture slants?
peace:)



I've yet to attempt to make a slant, but RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms and a pretty decent tutorial on how to make them. :goodluck:


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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21760279 - 06/04/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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YaMoonSun said:
Quote:

jannick1991 said:
is there anyone who have tried make masterculture slants?
peace:)



I've yet to attempt to make a slant, but RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms and a pretty decent tutorial on how to make them. :goodluck:




yeah o knows his video :smile: what i wanted to know if anyone else have tryied this and noticed any differents between strain or types of cubensis. ? :smile:


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InvisibleMyconin
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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: jannick1991]
    #21760285 - 06/04/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

jannick1991 said:
hello shroomers.

i have been reading a lot about potency between different cubensis Types/strains.

many peoble seem to agree that there is no different in potency between species, but between good gens and bad ones, and i agree so far.

but know i have tried many differnts strains and it seems to me that potency and trip is pretty musch the same, when it coms to visuals, and felling in my body. 3grams always give me the same trip offcause i have tried a few times whit minimum effects but my guess would bad handling of the mushroom after picking them.

så my question is:
is there anyone who have tried make masterculture slants, of to very popular popular and discussed stains like B+ the big yielder and gt the hard hitter ?

appoligize for my english spelling i hop its readable 

peace:)




In general, I've found that most people here claim PE's are the most potent of the cube variety, but a cube is a cube is a cube. They're all pretty similar with a few notable exceptions. If you want more actives you'll have to eat more cubes, or look into mushrooms like Pan Cyans or Azures. I would only recommend those last two for the experienced cultivator, as they are both known to be more difficult than the forgiving cubes.


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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: jannick1991]
    #21760296 - 06/04/15 04:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was trying to avoid getting into strain discussion, because there's already a thread for that.

Here ya go

Though, like Myc said, PE is supposedly more potent.


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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: Myconin]
    #21760299 - 06/04/15 04:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Myconin said:
Quote:

jannick1991 said:
hello shroomers.

i have been reading a lot about potency between different cubensis Types/strains.

many peoble seem to agree that there is no different in potency between species, but between good gens and bad ones, and i agree so far.

but know i have tried many differnts strains and it seems to me that potency and trip is pretty musch the same, when it coms to visuals, and felling in my body. 3grams always give me the same trip offcause i have tried a few times whit minimum effects but my guess would bad handling of the mushroom after picking them.

så my question is:
is there anyone who have tried make masterculture slants, of to very popular popular and discussed stains like B+ the big yielder and gt the hard hitter ?

appoligize for my english spelling i hop its readable 

peace:)




In general, I've found that most people here claim PE's are the most potent of the cube variety, but a cube is a cube is a cube. They're all pretty similar with a few notable exceptions. If you want more actives you'll have to eat more cubes, or look into mushrooms like Pan Cyans or Azures. I would only recommend those last two for the experienced cultivator, as they are both known to be more difficult than the forgiving cubes.




okay so cayens is a more potent psilocybin mushroom, i will try to grow that one next time. i dont have much experince i have tried a lot off those kits and i have one bulk grow on in my th bag. i succeded with my first attemp with bulk, i have a good undertanding and i love reading in here so maybe i should just go ahead and try, what would you reccoment ? :smile:


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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21760302 - 06/04/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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YaMoonSun said:
I was trying to avoid getting into strain discussion




Oops, sorry. Won't happen again.


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"I have just three things to teach: Simplicity, Patience, Compassion. These three are your greatest treasures." - Lao Tzu
"You've just gotta keep on keepin' on, man. You can't have 'no' in your heart" - Joe Dirt

ThirtyCigarettes said: "All I know is every other thread I see in the Cultivation forum goes like this: QUESTION > ANSWER > DIFFERENT ANSWER > ARGUE > TC COMES AND CLEARS IT UP"


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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: jannick1991]
    #21760303 - 06/04/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

jannick1991 said:
Quote:

Myconin said:
Quote:

jannick1991 said:
hello shroomers.

i have been reading a lot about potency between different cubensis Types/strains.

many peoble seem to agree that there is no different in potency between species, but between good gens and bad ones, and i agree so far.

but know i have tried many differnts strains and it seems to me that potency and trip is pretty musch the same, when it coms to visuals, and felling in my body. 3grams always give me the same trip offcause i have tried a few times whit minimum effects but my guess would bad handling of the mushroom after picking them.

så my question is:
is there anyone who have tried make masterculture slants, of to very popular popular and discussed stains like B+ the big yielder and gt the hard hitter ?

appoligize for my english spelling i hop its readable 

peace:)




In general, I've found that most people here claim PE's are the most potent of the cube variety, but a cube is a cube is a cube. They're all pretty similar with a few notable exceptions. If you want more actives you'll have to eat more cubes, or look into mushrooms like Pan Cyans or Azures. I would only recommend those last two for the experienced cultivator, as they are both known to be more difficult than the forgiving cubes.




okay so cayens is a more potent psilocybin mushroom, i will try to grow that one next time. i dont have much experince i have tried a lot off those kits and i have one bulk grow on in my th bag. i succeded with my first attemp with bulk, i have a good undertanding and i love reading in here so maybe i should just go ahead and try, what would you reccoment ? :smile:




i have been reading that one a couple of times know at i dont seem to find anything about anyone experimentet with mastercultere of to differents species?? should ask my question in there ? :smile:


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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: Myconin]
    #21760305 - 06/04/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

over the last few years teks for woodlovers has come along way!!
imo i dont think its that hard or intimidating for a noob to grow wood lovers as long as they have the basics down.
but fruit outdoors for simplicity as for the average joe fruiting them indoors aint going to happen.

if your interested look into stem butts or cardboard teks...
some almost no sterile technique is involved.:smile:

as i said the teks have come along way in recent years for outdoor patches of woodlovers and anyone can do it:thumbup:

here is a great place to start your adventure -

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13477424#13477424


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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21760312 - 06/04/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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mustangbob3 said:
over the last few years teks for woodlovers has come along way!!
imo i dont think its that hard or intimidating for a noob to grow wood lovers as long as they have the basics down.
but fruit outdoors for simplicity as for the average joe fruiting them indoors aint going to happen.

if your interested look into stem butts or cardboard teks...
some almost no sterile technique is involved.:smile:

as i said the teks have come along way in recent years for outdoor patches of woodlovers and anyone can do it:thumbup:




how should the climate be i lkive in denmark, prytty cold most time of the year :smile:


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Invisiblemustangbob3
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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: jannick1991]
    #21760328 - 06/04/15 04:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if you click the link i put up and read it somewhere in there it has infor for the hardiness zones they will grow in, think its between zone 3 and 5 or 8 cant remember?
anyway wiccan added a link to a map of the zones and states what zones i believe.

just check where you live on the map to see if your in a safe zone

i recently started an azure grow here in the uk..
fisrt time using no sterile tek
so far so good:smile:

here it is if your interested-
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21728044/page/2


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Edited by mustangbob3 (06/04/15 05:00 AM)


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Invisible36fuckin5
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Re: potency diffents if genetic is the same [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21761201 - 06/04/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

B+ and GT aren't strains. They'd be better called varieties. Grows from MS are all gonna be average, unless you get mushrooms that are each big enough for a dose. A strain in this context is a monoculture. You won't notice a difference until you isolate different cultures.

PE is the only exception I know of.


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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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