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ergoticmandala



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Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate?
#21759997 - 06/04/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have been interested in using dream herb(Calea ternifolia) to enhance my dreams and I was curious if anyone has ever hallucinated from smoking it. I don't mean after falling asleep because a dream is not the same as a hallucination to me. Wikipedia says one of the shamanic uses of this plant is to hallucinate! any ideas?
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: ergoticmandala]
#21760042 - 06/04/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you are using it for sleep you will probably want to have something in your system while you sleep. Smoking it would probably cause a short duration of effects. I'd make some tea and do that. Then maybe smoke some before sleep. I've had absolutely vivid and insane dreams using Valerian Root. You can get it at any CVS/Walgreens. You need to take like 10-20 capsules of it for the inception like dreams.
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ergoticmandala



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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: Gorlax]
#21760074 - 06/04/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have seen valerian root in my local whole foods but have never tried it for dreaming, maybe I will give it a go. regarding my initial question, can dream herb make you hallucinate or is that just an ignorant Wikipedia post?
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Gorlax



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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: ergoticmandala]
#21760280 - 06/04/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ignorant wikipedia man. You won't be hallucinating off Dream Herb. Next time your at whole foods grab some Valerian. I know for a fact that it causes vivid/lucid dreaming. I've tried dream herb before and can't really tell you much. If you have to debate with yourself the next morning did I have a dream. It didn't work. Valerian Root dreams are so vivid and intense you will wake up and think those events happened. I always have reoccurring dreams to. After fixing my iphone screen I kept dreaming I broke it and literally it felt so real. Then I'd wake up and be like oh shit that was a dream sweet I didn't break my phone. So trippy.
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ergoticmandala



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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: Gorlax]
#21760418 - 06/04/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea I assumed that I would have seen something on here about hallucinating on dream herb if it were possible, meh. I get those type of trippy vivid dreams sometimes from meditating before I sleep or just focusing on becoming lucid in my dreams. Thanks for the recommendation, ill pick up some valerian in the future, maybe post something on here about my experience with it.
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Jean-guy Masta
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: ergoticmandala]
#21760594 - 06/04/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a Calea zacatechichi growing right now , I plan to make enhanced leafs with it and some blue lotus extract and some dmt.
I tried smoking blue lotus extract 20x by itself , I didnt felt anything . Kinda expect the same thing with the calea, but maybe since it acts on dream and dmt feels like a dream state. Thought it would be a good combo
But for calea by it self , I higly doubt smoking plain leaf would give any kind of high
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ergoticmandala



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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21760651 - 06/04/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you should try smoking each on their own first because calea effects you when u fall asleep and start dreaming where as DMT is a trip/high in itself just like marijuana. Then maybe try to combine then after you have experienced each individually. Is it hard to grow? what conditions are yours growing in?
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Jean-guy Masta
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: ergoticmandala]
#21760734 - 06/04/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea I'm gonna probably try it but I don't expect much . Dmt is not your regular drug its definitely more then a high/trip and the only way it makes sense to me is that being a dream state . Or else your traveling throught other dimension or some shit.
I heard a lot of people saying calea is perfect synergie with dmt
Calea is actually really really easy to grow, low nutrient uptake , low light requirement , u could grow it next to a window with cactus soil
I grow it in regular potting soil in my green house . She likes it a lot
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Jean-guy Masta
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21760791 - 06/04/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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maybe a tea would be more efficiant then smoking tho , I think what ill do is Ill try not to smoke weed in an whole day ,and then chug a strong calea tea and test it out . its maybe worth it
I get super vivid dreams when i dont smoke weed for an entire day . maybe with calea its gonna be a step further . i guess i have nothing to lose
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thoraxx
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21761717 - 06/04/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Theres a decent high if you smoke enough of it, kinda like weed Maybe if you drink a strong tea and smoke a big bowl ontop of it, but i doubt that would be enjoyable
Just make a cup of tea and smoke a spliff right before going to sleep, thats awesome If you want to trip, take proper psys
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Heisencybin
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: thoraxx]
#21761798 - 06/04/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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For lucid dreaming I would use b complex sometimes along with choline bitartrate. Also do the WBTB technique and eat tryptomines during that time. Melatonin and valerian seem to alter dreams a bit but not enhance dream recall and lucidity like choline did. That's the main one you need if your want lucidity.
If this is nothing for lucid dreaming, then I am sorry for wasting your time lol. But if you're interested, I've learned quite a bit about it if you wanna hear more
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ergoticmandala



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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: Heisencybin]
#21761844 - 06/04/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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how quickly does the plant grow? and how much plant material is needed to really enhance dreams? @Thoraxx, how might u describe the high, id be curious in trying to get to that point right before sleeping, I mean I don't even have any of this yet but its a work in the making.
@Heisencybin, thanks for your suggestion, would I be able to find this b complex and choline bitartrate at a GNC health store? because that's what I have easiest access to at the moment. Probably can't find dream herb at GNC right? maybe valerian.
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Heisencybin
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: ergoticmandala]
#21762103 - 06/04/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah idk about dream herb... but the b vitamins should be found at gnc or vitamin shoppe
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Connoisseur

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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: ergoticmandala]
#21763068 - 06/04/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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never tried it before always wanted to but ive heard it tastes horrible
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thoraxx
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: Connoisseur]
#21765496 - 06/05/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The tea does taste bitter, but its nowhere near the horrors of rue for example, you can make it pretty palatable with sugar or whatever
Smoking on the other hand is great, tastes much better than tobacco, its so good im working on making this into a blend with some other legal actives for when i cant smoke weed
As for the effects, hard to describe and i dont have alot of experience with high doses, but it reminds me of indica without the mindfuck, just makes you sleepy i guess
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: thoraxx]
#21765716 - 06/05/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I enjoyed dream herb the times that I smoked it. I found very few effects until I went to bed. The dreams are quite lucid.
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Re: Is dream herb really strong enough to make you hallucinate? [Re: thoraxx]
#21766500 - 06/05/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
thoraxx said: The tea does taste bitter, but its nowhere near the horrors of rue for example, you can make it pretty palatable with sugar or whatever
Smoking on the other hand is great, tastes much better than tobacco, its so good im working on making this into a blend with some other legal actives for when i cant smoke weed
As for the effects, hard to describe and i dont have alot of experience with high doses, but it reminds me of indica without the mindfuck, just makes you sleepy i guess
sounds exciting
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