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Brief Salvia Trip Reports/My one week experiment with salvia
#21758884 - 06/03/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I will hopefully trying Salvia soon and have been reading trip reports. I would like to hear from you guys on your trip reports because its very interesting. make a brief or long report I will be happy with either one.
im just interested in what you guys have experienced. I will be adding my trip report once I do it next week.
Edit: multiple trip reports from my week long experiment with salvia divinorum posted through out the comments
Bare with me this is a short acting substance that doesnt always deliver very profound affects with the amounts i have experimented with. i am sorry for double posting in advance, i smoke it multiple times in sessions so i post often on what i experience with this controversial,even for the shroomery, plant.
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There are tons of salvia trip reports on this board. Use the search engine.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy] 1
#21760243 - 06/04/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I went through a bunch of them already. new is better.
also the more I read I see that its VERY psychedelic but its supposedly a one of kind high and different than other psyches.
the bad trips I imagine are the same kind of people who would bad trip on any psyche with the wrong set and setting.
the trip reports I have read are pretty interesting some similar but all different.
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New isn't better. Salvinorin A is the same. Brains are the same. The reason the reports are all different is that salvia - as a dissociative - is VERY "random" in its effects. Even my own experiences are all over the map. Just another reason why I (and others) find it repugnant, and hold it in low regard.
Almost ANY entheogen is better than salvia. That having been said, I'm hoping that traditional types of usage (quidding as opposed to smoking) will change my opinion. Hope to get around to experimenting in that regard this summer. BTW, salvia is legal where I reside, so no worries on that account - which helps.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
#21762719 - 06/04/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: New isn't better. Salvinorin A is the same. Brains are the same. The reason the reports are all different is that salvia - as a dissociative - is VERY "random" in its effects. Even my own experiences are all over the map. Just another reason why I (and others) find it repugnant.
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Damn sorry to hear you don't like salvia much. (I know you said repugnant, nice vocab!)
by "new" I mean I have read almost EVERY salvia trip I can. would like to hear some different trips and have a short convo with people who are very familiar with salvia.
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Well, you have a lot to chose from. Not many are positive.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
#21762749 - 06/04/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah im sure but I also think most people cant handle psyches in general. some people cant stand that loss of ego and whatnot.
I am most interested in just regular leaf trips not the extracts.
I have had some "bad" trips on shrooms and great trips so mixed. I think I will really enjoy salvia mainly because I LOVE tripping...
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You may like salvia but it is different than a mushroom trip. When I smoked salvia it was pretty good, extremely weird though.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21762833 - 06/04/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I heard its just similar to a shroom feeling when you come down but ive read from people who have tried many psyches like shrooms dmt lsd and mdma, that nothing could prepare them for the trip on salvia.
im pretty excited to try it out.
what was your trip like if you don't mind tellin it.
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Only done it once. Smoked a whole large bowl of 10x using a butane torch. 2 or 3 tokes. My buddy joked and said "count backwards from 100". I obeyed. Made it to 97. My mind from the perspective of my eyes got sucked into the back of my skull.
I was being pulled backwards I became some kind of oriental carpeted caterpillar traveling back wards looking at my own cross section strewn over hyperspace. Eventually I was pulled so far back that i felt like I was torn inside out left in a dimension where I was being tortured by the salvia "spirit(s)". I had the impression of being in a childhood memory and that's all I can/could recall from the peak.
I was then turned the opposite of turned inside out I was turned outside in. I again saw the cross section of my splattered carpet caterpillar over hyperspace and snaped back into my body. I got up exclaiming some kind of gibberish about how crazy the experience was. English returned to me and the feeling I had would be what I would expect someone who was exploded from the inside out and put back together from an implosion to feel. An uncomforatbleness persisted for quite some time.
I at one time had an erowid book mark of a salvia report almost exactly like my experience, especially the point of the vision having something that could be related to squiggly carpet or something and encountering something which was in the mood for causing discomfort.
I'll never do salvia again unless I could some how obtain a cutting and cultivate it myself. Since getting a cuttting is now somewhat of a question, I doubt Id ever experiment with it again.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: wolf fish]
#21762884 - 06/04/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the report man interesting stuff!
when I try it I will only be using the plain leaf not the extract which is what give me the confidence my trips wont be TOO intense.
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I guess sort of like a mushroom trip when you're coming down. That part for me felt really good. It was like I had just been on a huge journey & I "triumphed" or something. haha bad analogy.
I was excited to try it too. I had done mushrooms before but before salvia I had never actually "tripped". It was 20x salvia. I was alone at the time, no trip sitter. I'm not sure how much I put in the bowl, it was a metal bowl on a gravity bong but I packed it full. I took the hit from the gravity bong, held it in for approx 30 seconds or so, blew it out & I remember thinking for a brief moment something like "When is it going to happen?" & before any following thought I was put into some sort of really dark blue & black background. Like an abyss. I didn't know anything at all, it was impossible to think. At the time I didn't even know I was on a drug. I felt this very strong sensation of my arms being pulled from my body. It was like being tugged almost but it didn't feel like I was in pain. Another part was going around on some sort of conveyor belt in a train cart thing with what these strange looking figures that reminded me of some sort of disney cartoon characters but not any specific one, just in that style of drawing. (All these objects & things that I'm using to describe parts in the trip are just things that I can think of sober to try to make you understand.)
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Quote:
Trichome_Delta9 said: yeah im sure but I also think most people cant handle psyches in general. some people cant stand that loss of ego and whatnot.
I am most interested in just regular leaf trips not the extracts.
I have had some "bad" trips on shrooms and great trips so mixed. I think I will really enjoy salvia mainly because I LOVE tripping...
Hahaha I think back when I had my experience in 2008 I had the same POV. "Oh all those ass holes on youtube disrespecting the plant, all the negative trip report, oh they're from bitches who don't even like/ cant handle LSD and mushrooms"
Dude smoking salvia is clearly no joke. I don;t know if the youtube vids from back in the day are still up. But the terror in some of the poor souls faces. I'm sure the terror in my own eyes........quiding is clearly the way to go, but I hope you try smoking its...
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21762919 - 06/04/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha I understand what you mean. there is not really word to describe a strong psyche trip.
very good read. I have read usuing the gravity bong is best. that's more than likely how I will try it on my first trip.
I would love to do shrooms again or trip on lsd but I don't have the time for that anymore 
once I trip ill be posting it in this thread.
Also I don't know what quiding is? heard about it a few times. no idea what it is?
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Quiding is a fancy way of saying chewing. You just to pack your gums with leaves and sort of roll the saliva around in your mouth.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: wolf fish]
#21762972 - 06/04/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh yeah I heard about that from McKenna along time ago. he said that's the way it meant to be used in his eyes.
if I get enough of it I will try smoking and quiding.
is quiding as intense or not even close?
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I've done salvia about 5 times or so. I haven't since last summer. I have some 10x laying around & I've thought about doing some but I'm not ready yet.
I would use the gravity bong. It gives you big, good hits which is what you need if you want to actually experience a salvia trip. Some of my friends tried the 20x salvia & they hit it through a small bowl & they clearly did not trip. They could still talk & get up from the couch. When you're tripping on salvia you can't talk or function at all.
My last time smoking salvia I took a small hit. It was nooowhere near the other times when I had actually tripped-I was still "rooted" & knew where I was. It was hard to see but there weren't any good visuals like a mushroom type visual. It was super bland. It was almost like being underwater or having plastic wrap around you.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21763005 - 06/04/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ill probably try and smoke up 2gs as quick as I can before it takes affect that my main plan but we will see right? haha
have you done the quiding?
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I don't know the effects of smoking just the plain plant leaf although I'm sure it will have some effect. I had I guess what they call "extract". 20x. Holy crap I can't even imagine what anything above 20x would be like.
I've never chewed on just the plain leaf either.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21763042 - 06/04/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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RIGHT! I read people taking more than 20x but it usually get them to the amnesia stage of salvia and they don't even remember the trip.
that's not what I aim for im just aiming for a level 3 4 or 5 trip.
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Salvia biochemically and experientially is not anything like classical psychedelics like LSD, mushrooms, or mescaline. It is more properly characterized as a dissociative. If you like mushies and mescaline and are looking for a similar experience, but shorter, DMT is the molecule you are most likely to gravitate towards.
Salvia can be terrifying, dysphoric and VERY unpleasant - possibly even injurious if you do it in large measure without a sitter. Do yourself a favor and start small and work up.
I'm fairly certain you will find the effects are not what you thought or hoped they would be, especially if you use concentrates above 10X.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
#21764546 - 06/05/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am using plain leaf and im not sure what to expect other than what ive read and a handful of shroom trips. im not worried and scared at all. I just expect to have some visual affect if not full hallucinations.
shrooms gave me a very introspective trip with minor visuals. so anything more than shrooms and I will be satisfied.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy] 1
#21764549 - 06/05/15 04:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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A very LSD like trip
Except you are not in the driverseat anymore it just takes you, you get unconscious so you do not recall your friends recall...
it's like a dream, only you are awake you may morph into your couch or the walls then teleport to another dimension and have a teaparty with unknown spirits touching your body saying weird stuff you do not understand, so you yell at them
then you meet your family, or people you believe are your family and you yell at them too
it's like multiple splitting of the ego your person splits, into 2 or 3 persons, and you have a conversation with yourself
I've had people visit me who were not there, and I had long conversations with them (my friends) they weren't there
One time I went around on the floor picking up a plastic bag that was shaped 100% like a 3d head, it spoke to me but when I took it up, the floor still kept speaking to me in my friends voice then the furniture took my friends head shape and spoke to me
(this was on 5x and 20x , Sally is powerful..)
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore] 1
#21764557 - 06/05/15 04:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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But I would much rather recommend laying down, and using smaller doses. The smallest necessary dose.
Gives a more pleasant trip, more meditative trip.
The other kind of trip can be fun, but I only feel safe when I have a sitter with that kind. Salvia can be fun very rarely for me, seems only once every 2-3 years or so!
I just cannot get myself to smoke it, but when I do I wonder why I didnt do it earlier It is pleasant and very unpleasant at the same time always...
Amazing trip, very unpleasant (LSD is like this too for me... exactly like this, always unpleasant at high doses.. mushrooms are like this too)
so same effect as LSD/mushrooms longterm for me, but I cannot say exactly what it does - it change your thoughts in some cases afterwards
Edit: forgot to mention that Salvia can give the funniest trip I've had in my life of any psychedelic laughed my ass off for 3 mins in a row or so or more very funny.... indescribeable but just like laughing on mushrooms/lsd it felt like laughter is a good medicine
but I am not sure I would recommend Salvia to any psychonaut except shamans... I dont really feel it is good for newcomers. LSD and mushrooms are better there I believe... - traditional tryptamines
deleriants which Salvia almost could be classified as are very confusing, people might not feel ready
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21764564 - 06/05/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have to smoke it outside since I live with my aunt and uncle and they don't smoke inside.
I may sneak a deep hit or two inside in the dark when I get it though.
I have done shrooms so the comfortably uncomfortable feeling I am little familiar with.
I have my cousin as a trip sitter so im set there but I will be starting slow just to be fully safe.
my cousin is a bit nervous to try it he hasn't tripped before on anything so it will be interesting.
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They say if you are gunna do extract to start with 5x extract. I would strongly agree with this. Stupid me who wants the most out of all drugs went and bought 20x extract.
First small cone and bam I was fucked beyond belief. I was panicking that I could not get a sliding door open and that I was trapped. Once I got the door open the hallway became about 3 inches wide so I couldn't walk down it. It was very scary, I forgot I had even taken anything and I thought this was my new reality. I started sweating profusely and then remembered that it only lasts 15 minutes so I calmed down. Its indescribable the how intense and how strong this drug is.
It took a few drinks before I tried it again. This time it kicked even harder and everything I seen in my peripheral vision seemed to fold up like pages in a book. It seemed like everything in the world and universe was this book and me and my little life were on one page. I was out side of the book that had folded up. It was scary as hell. I felt I was in this space or void like I was dead and left the world. But wa just in some dark place. Then everything slowly went back to normal and I was sweating like a mother fucker again.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: nomad165]
#21766459 - 06/05/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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^^^^ Classic salvia trip! Congratulations for getting through it - but not necessarily getting OVER it. Those frightening and dysphoric visions stays with you for a while, don't they?
I had a similar experience where 1) I didn't even remember I'd taken a drug, 2) the scene of my bedroom, with me in it, was inside what looked like a million repetions of itself racing away with "time". Each frame was a millisecond's worth of reality racing off into the past. It was terrifying because each one seemed like its own separate world, and I couldn't figure out which one I needed to re-enter to return to a "normal" reality, or HOW to go about doing it.
I experienced 100X more terror than any real-life experience I've ever had, and I've had some doosies.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
#21767541 - 06/05/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is something special about the Salvia trip
it seems it feels so real, almost like a lucid dream
and personally all my lucid dreams in my life, from 4 years old to 30 I remember like 2mins ago, like yesterday in full color
same with my salvia trips it seems
so it seems great precautions must be taken, but that is pretty much required for all psychedelics the difference with salvia is it just takes you aboard, and you will remember it like yesterday for the rest of your life
so you better respect it... I don't want to remember a hell trip for the rest of my life
It seems to get stored in memory in such a way that it gets remembered intensely, somehow
5x is the best starting point, because you have to smoke more than one hit usually then you can redose... with 20x there's no redosing usually - you're just out of your room
I think there's a reason why we don't lucid dream every night, even experienced lucid dreamers same with salvia...
because the mind has to process the fear with such an intense trip, jumping out from a building in a lucid dream may take years to get over having a bad salvia trip the same..
a bad mushroom trip is less severe for me usually, because I am still -somewhat- in control and it doesn't forcefully change my memory the way a lucid dream or salvia can do
there's something weird about how lucid dreams and salvia trips get stored in memory, compared to normal everyday events or maybe it's just me...
ultra real dreams, ultra real trip - and gets stored as real so it will impact everyday of your life from then on, likely
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21767564 - 06/05/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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But I'm not trying to make Salvia look bad here, it can certainly be an interesting and wonderful trip
I would classify it in same category as Datura, deleriant.
You may see people not there, smoke fake cigarettes not there, speak to people not there etc.
So the risks seem the same as Datura, you may kill yourself if in bad setting but else you will be safe - and there is no overdose on Salvia
But it is likely that just like Datura, it can mess up the mind with overuse some Datura users are pretty messed up.
I think it's the deleriant effects/deleriant memories that can mess people up, if they overdo it, and if they take other drugs at the same time
Delerium-states probably makes some weird changes to the brain , any brain scientists here?
(another thing that didnt feel safe for me on Salvia a few times: intense sweating in the head only... higher body temp... Not sure that is safe for body or mind..)
Edit: just want to add that scientifically salvinorin (salvia) is safe for the mind, very nontoxic unlike Datura. But it seems to produce much the same effects as Datura often. It's just my personal theory that it might not be safe with overuse. I would only take Salvia as often as I would take E - Believe the risk to the mind might be as large as with E i.e. So that means a few times in your life will probably be ok - my theory. If you use it more often, you better be a shaman or such. Many people have used it on youtube etc. and seem to come out ok - but there has been deaths from Salvia too, one got depressed due to it. Don't take it lightly, it is the most confusing of all psychedelics I've tried, and can be more depressing/confusing than weed too I believe. Takes a strong mind and requires moderation.
The beneficial effects from psychedelics are much larger for me with LSD/mushrooms than with Salvia, but I have felt about the same afterglow with salvia sometimes.
Very confusing drug, good / bad - there's no such thing with Salvia.
Was my trip good/bad ? I don't know ;-)
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21767680 - 06/05/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some people will probably not believe me when I say Salvia is deleriant in effects
It can also be very psychoactive, same kind of effects when you look at a carpet or your hands etc - geometric shapes, infinity etc.
Very strong psychoactive, like high dose LSD
but also deleriant often when you smoke 5x
then suddenly with a higher dose it's more totally psychoactive, there's no room you're in another space, closed eye immension
It seems salvia for me can both produce: deleriant effects(very often on 5x), strong hallucinations audible/visual like a high dose LSD trip - just stronger, psychoactive - it will force you to view yourself differently and your friends differently, and yourself differently afterwards
so it can change you, help you, if you go into trip with an intention to heal your problems new overview afterwards often, new clarity
and then it can also do the complete opposite: bring complete confusion no thought overview, confusion for weeks etc.
the last part I never really experience on normal psychedelics, that confusion my mind is usually sharp, except for trouble writing coherently next day(s)
The deleriant effects can be the most fun actually, that's why I like salvia lets me try "datura" without taking datura... it was VERY convincing, I was trapped in eternity speaking to people not there and then they left I didnt think it was weird... then someone else showed up, who was not there either
it messed you up - and not a good thing if done too often, but can be fun
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
#21768886 - 06/06/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Salvia biochemically and experientially is not anything like classical psychedelics like LSD, mushrooms, or mescaline. It is more properly characterized as a dissociative. If you like mushies and mescaline and are looking for a similar experience, but shorter, DMT is the molecule you are most likely to gravitate towards.
Salvia can be terrifying, dysphoric and VERY unpleasant - possibly even injurious if you do it in large measure without a sitter. Do yourself a favor and start small and work up.
I'm fairly certain you will find the effects are not what you thought or hoped they would be, especially if you use concentrates above 10X.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Connoisseur]
#21769391 - 06/06/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It seems any psychedelic is terrifying on a high dose
Mushrooms are LSD is for sure, it will take months/years to reclaim your mind ;-) Weed is for sure too
and Salvia is at a smaller dose than the rest, because it's so intense
So if you go over plain leaf, expect one hell of a ride (5x is good for beginners)
It will take you by surprise
But it is more like being in Hellraiser than a regular trip you get the pulling of the ropes, then eternity in hell, and you laugh from the sadistic pain
Trips often start like that... you get pulled by an invisible rope, almost everytime
The biggest mindfuck I used to get with it: watched my couch, but suddenly my couch was part of a wall and I was outside and THIS reality seemed unreal - I now saw a larger real reality, where this reality was only a subset of
damn that was a mindfuck, everytime that happened, it happens each time it seems
it's very much like a lucid dream that way.... you wake up in your reality, now you see that was a part of a bigger reality whether the bigger reality is an illusion or not doesn't matter here, it's pretty mindblowing
the only problem with salvia is that it is too mindblowing for me high dose LSD trips blow my mind like that, but a normal trip rarely does..
it blows the mind so much it is hard to get back, but I would imagine Datura does that too, so be careful
I cannot imagine what Datura would be like, you would see that this reality is just an automated simulation likely, random hallucinations appear and you interact with them, suddenly you are back in your childhood and reliving it - feeling everything like it was etc.
that happened with me on Salvia too iirc , so mindblowing it defies words
suppose the mindblowing part is that the mind is capable of making new universes like that, and that we could be living in a dream all our lives / automated dream, without knowing it - it seems so real
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
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Nature Boy said: ^^^^ Classic salvia trip! Congratulations for getting through it - but not necessarily getting OVER it. Those frightening and dysphoric visions stays with you for a while, don't they?
2) the scene of my bedroom, with me in it, was inside what looked like a million repetions of itself racing away with "time". Each frame was a millisecond's worth of reality racing off into the past.
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Experienced this phenomena on shrooms once. not my best trip but a learning experience for sure
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I can recommend watching Hellraiser after tripping Salvia, that movie makes so much more sense now .. :-)
Salvias psychedelic effects I've been nowhere near on LSD/mushrooms, not even on a heroic dose The cube opens deep on Salvia
even 5x is closer to a high/heroic dose of LSD if I could compare them, extremely psychedelic
mushrooms may take me on inner journeys, but for sure not outer journeys like I've had on Salvia like NB described, the room was no more, now I was part of a larger reality and the walls ceased, new walls came
I was no longer inside
I was outside, in the middle age / some other point in time, felt ancient felt like "the real world", and my living room felt like an illusion
my couch was part of the wall outside
there were people there, talking to me and I spoke to them - in a weird language
blew my mind, still blows my mind years after to think about it LSD has been nowhere near that not even on 10+ hits, but that can also produce realworld hallucinations you cannot see if they are fake, things in mid air i.e.
Salvia is different here, you get teleported to another reality where you can walk around and touch it/feel it with LSD/shrooms you are usually still in the room, except for inner journeys once in a while - Salvia feels like a factor 10 difference in psychedelic effect (almost too intense)
It will blow the mind of even a hardcore psychonaut, but maybe not in a good way like a few have said, you may not want to repeat it because you don't feel anything good was gained, except a blowed mind (few people report they gain worthwhile stuff from Salvia, and it takes a while to get to know it - like most other psychedelics)
I would personally much much rather Lucid Dream (www.ld4all.nl , www.dreamviews.com ) than do Salvia. I would trade 10 salvia trips for 1 lucid dream. Because lucid dreams are always worthwhile for me, even if they are really bad trips.
and funnily enough, only lucid dreams compare to a Salvia trip Salvia is very much like a lucid dream, just very little control - and that is not always a good thing
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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Im getting plain leaf. you seem to be explaining more about the extracts or something. how much do you know about plain leaf im getting an ounce soon.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21797739 - 06/12/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Salvia is one of the best psychedelics if you like NOT being in control, if you like an asskicking trip , it will kick your ass
But plain leaves didn't work for me, doesn't work for most
It seems most people say there is reverse tolerance, so if you smoke extract, then later plain leaves will work as strong as extract, and take you out of your room, where they initially did nothing - no visuals - no effect
Plain leaves don't make most people trip it seems, but you can use them for meditation
Coincidentially I like the not in control trip when tripping with friends that I trust I dont like that alone... - can be dangerous But with friends I like trips that are wild and unpredictable instead of boring.
Salvia is just something that requires extremely careful setting, it is very dangerous to take else.
After I once fell to the ground with a sitter on Salvia I haven't wanted to smoke it alone since, and also for other reasons. Many people start to walk around on Salvia in that state, you don't know what you do while on it
So can be a dangerous game, you should always have a sitter!
(I didn't even walk around when I fell to the ground, I just sat up - Salvia will make many people fall to the ground, just watch youtube vids.... ), can be dangerous but funny too sometimes
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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It is the loss of balance / poor coordination - that makes people fall over on Salvia, can happen even if you just sit up - and happens to many that walk around
That can be very dangerous if not having a good sitter - so you should always lay down preferably
It can be extra fun when sitting up though, if having a sitter
It's like smoking nitro, you can't stop laughing for like 5-10mins
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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Expecting to have some tomorrow! 
I will be posting some of what happens here.
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Great , hope to read a trip report soon!
I would definitely recommend 5x. I would trade all my 20x for 5x I think :-)
5x is much much more pleasant, even though unpleasant too often a bit. 5x is the closest I can get to a traditional psychedelic experience. 20x is much different there, totally new and often too wild and intense
With 5x it lets me explore my room, I can walk around and the furniture morphs The furnuture starts talking to me. I become my couch and the walls, then people come that are not there etc
Very interesting, 20x just takes me out of the room , much too intense, and you cannot dose low with 20x it seems - doesnt work for me
I tried the lowest low dose (medium dose) and it still takes me out of my body
5x is great, you just need to take more than 1 hit, 2-3 hits of 30 sec each only for serious tokers ;-)
If you look for something like LSD/mushrooms , 5x would be that, it is pleasant enough to be enjoyable
20x is scary even for shamanistic psychonauts I think
You better chose between the usually recommended range from 5x-20x max. Standardized is also the way to go - if you get standardized you can trip very intensely as described here with just 5x, your room becomes a lucid dream and every furniture starts talking to you, you get time travels back to ancient times/your childhood / talk to people you know etc.
Very interesting on 5x , wouldn't mind trying that again, but not so sure with 20x - 20x only calls me once every 2-3 years it seems.
5x could be smoked once a week initially, no prob, you still felt somewhat back - not totally blown at all. Maybe it's easier to accept furniture talking to you than being out of body ?;-)
In the end I have no love relationship with any psychedelic, not even LSD that I really like, because there is usually a price for every trip, the stronger trip the stronger the price usually. Same seems to be with Salvia, so 5x is a good middleground. You can keep redosing until you find it strong enough, with 20x it takes me by surprise everytime/too strong always.
Take is as a trip, sometimes I like a wild trip, sometimes I like an interesting trip - so having both 5x and 20x could be interesting. But if I had to chose I would much rather have only the 5x than the 20x - 20x is only good for "party tripping" - trip with a few close friends. It's excellent there though, you may laugh more than in your whole life combined each time. Just beware that this strong psychedelic might not be for everyone.
I often am very very cautious about introducing any person to psychedelics, only if they ask themselves really, I would never take that chance with anyone. Salvia is the strongest psychedelic known so far iirc.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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I got salvia 1x on the way. plain leaf, im excited and I have like an O coming so I think I can reach affects if I pack a few bongs and a bubbler and go at it hard.
I will probably only ever go up to 5x it seems like anything more, from what I have read, is almost too intense to be worth experiencing and the memory loss is not interesting at all.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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Salvia is active in so small doses, that you can hardly weigh out a dose of 20x on a mg scale..
It's much easier with 5x, easier to redose and weigh it
It seems you cannot take half a dose of 20x sometimes, but with 5x it works fine
That's why I would prefer 5x, but if you are very patient, and calm when you weigh 20x it might be possible to dose low on that too... Hasn't worked for me yet out of maybe 10 trips
Only the 5x works the way I hoped to trip, and it's very enjoyable actually - 2min pain in start of trip, then morphing stuff without pain , very fun
- And don't tell me you don't need a mg scale! ;-) , Salvia _requires_ a mg scale, a 20x dose is so small you can hardly see it in the bowl... like a few pieces of tea
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Trichome_Delta9 said: I got salvia 1x on the way. plain leaf, im excited and I have like an O coming so I think I can reach affects if I pack a few bongs and a bubbler and go at it hard.
I will probably only ever go up to 5x it seems like anything more, from what I have read, is almost too intense to be worth experiencing and the memory loss is not interesting at all.
With plain leaves it is likely you will not trip at all initially, first many bonghits
Only 5x worked for me, and that too took many hits to work
Reverse tolerance seems it needs to build, 5x didnt work initially..
After trying maybe 5+ times, it suddenly worked
Then I needed 3 hits of 5x each time.... so with 1x you may need 15 hits lol - that's not possible
Salvia must be taken within 1-2mins before it leaves the body, else the "hit is wasted". It leaves the blood within this time.
So if you cannot take the whole dose within 1min or so, you have wasted the hit.
That's why people say to keep toking until you cannot understand what a bong is, but with plain leaves it sounds like it just may not work for you, unless you are one of the very few people who trip off plain leaves, a few do. Not even with weed added may you trip. But you may get a nice meditative experience / intense heavy experience (stoned heavy feeling)
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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i was going to try and smoke .5 out of two different bong bowls making it a full gram of plain leaf then have a bubbler packed with .5-1g in case i need to go further.
I am getting it tomorrow so i will post how it goes here. im going to have an o and experiment a lot with it.
i have read alot of trip reports of plain leaf. i don't expect anything intense just a taste of what savlia can do.
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Smoked 40x salvia one time in my room. I put it in my herbal g-pen vaporizer and took a few hits. After the first hit I felt gravity pull me back. I took another and then everything in my room was spinning and my book shelf had goggly eyes and was communicating with me telepathically. The walls turned into giant spinning fractals that had snake like creatures swimming through them. I heard objects speaking tongues and cowbells and all sorts of wacky sounds going off in my head. I managed to take another hit and all I heard was "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" in my head. My ego had died. I then saw my spinning room being taken apart piece by piece like a puzzle and underneath were these orange beings. I thought I died. I was in another dimension I felt like I had no body but was just floating in this void that felt so familiar despite the other salvia trips. I saw the beings then start rotating this box that was my room and my body was inside of it. The were moving it like some sort of gear. I felt so small compared to them. I felt like they control my life and who I am. It was weird shit. I love salvia and that was the most powerful trip i've ever had off anything. I still cant put it into words but I tried my best.
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Thanks for the report and i love that thing in your sig! i haven't looked at those things in forever!
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Any time, Im kind of a salvia advocate. I think something so mind blowing can teach us about our brains and the possibility of inner dimensions. Or maybe these chemicals are latch on to our antennas(receptors) and tune us into a different frequency of what we already experience. I appreciate it friend
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Got my ounce of salvia im going to smoke it later tonight ill post how it goes here.
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Just tried like .3 held it in for a little more than 20 seconds blew out and had a fullish experience. felt lady salvias presence kind of felt like she was playing a joke on me or something. it was pretty interesting.
I must be sensitive to salvia because that was quite a trip.
felt like I was getting pulled left with my left side and right with my right side.
I liked it. only lasted a minute or so then I was pretty much just in a daze questioning what I had just experienced.
I will be going back later tonight with my cousin.
edit: I also remember hearing people talk like lady salvia and other people lady salvia seemed to be laughing for me, I was speechless. I was alone the whole time though..
crazy shit man.
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Trichome_Delta9 said: Just tried like .3 held it in for a little more than 20 seconds blew out and had a fullish experience. felt lady salvias presence kind of felt like she was playing a joke on me or something. it was pretty interesting.
I must be sensitive to salvia because that was quite a trip.
felt like I was getting pulled left with my left side and right with my right side.
I liked it. only lasted a minute or so then I was pretty much just in a daze questioning what I had just experienced.
I will be going back later tonight with my cousin.
edit: I also remember hearing people talk like lady salvia and other people lady salvia seemed to be laughing for me, I was speechless. I was alone the whole time though..
crazy shit man.
Its been almost 6 years since my last trip but for the past month or two i felt like i am ready to finally go back.
I bolded that part of your post because i can relate. I have smoked 5x, 10x and 20x. I always felt like i was being laughed at when i smoked it back then. I realize now that the reason is probably because i was taking WAY too much. I get the feeling that salvia has a twisted sense of humor. Her way of saying that it was too much, was simply by showing me how deep she can take me, which is deeper than my mind could even fathom.
The last trip i took, I smoked 1 hit of 20x extract. I wasn't prepared for it mentally. I dont even remember exhaling, i was already gone and launched into the usual headspace, only this time i was standing at the edge. There was a gateway or doorway of sometype. I remember encountering a female entity near the door. She didn't say anything, she never has to me before. All she did was start laughing in that twisted, high-pitched voice that i can only describe as the salvia laugh. (anytime i have seen someone else smoke salvia, their tone of laughter changes to match this. Mine does as well.) The next thing i knew, i was being propelled into this new dimesion behind this doorway. I couldn't even comprehend what i was seeing.
Total sensory overload. So much was happening so quickly. I was overcome with terror and fled in the reverse direction. I came back to reality so hard and fast that i was thrown off my bed. I ran outside to check to see if i was actually where i thought i was (back on earth).
This time when i go back, i will just be getting some plain leaf to try chewing it. Extracts are just too much too fast to be able to gain anything meaningful from the experience
Moral of the story? Don't try to dive to the bottom of the deep end when you don't know where the bottom is, or if there even is a bottom
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Soulidarity]
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Good to hear it worked lol my friends stuff is really potent compared to most leaf. With his it normally takes about a gram or two to see visuals. Its all pretty fresh and dried very well so that might help.
I do wonder if it is potent due to his care and Maxsea fertilizer or if it is just a potent hoffman/wasson. My cousin had much weaker stuff from a different source of hoffman/wasson so its not uncommon for leaf to be disappointing.
Either way i told him to start growing more so hes stepping up his garden 
A lot of people feel like they are being laughed at, judged, or watched when they smoke it. Some people i have smoked with actually felt embarassed 
I personally love smoking salvia on ocassion but only smoke the stronger concentrates like 50x and above. Its not my favorite psychedelic but its fun to experience such a wild card. I would like to sublingually take about half a mg to a mg of crystallized salvinorins on a hit of blotter when i have enough saved up for an extraction lol like a less minty quid
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
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Yes toadstool this shit is potent thanks man youre the best!
i was oddly able to walk near the end of my trip and when i came back and had the subtle stoned feeling i was just saying out loud alone "holy shit!" and "Oh my god"
it was intense and very interesting.
kind of had a feeling like ive been in that sort of feeling kind of on shrooms or like it was familiar to me.
was intense at the peak and the visuals i experienced are sort of blurry in retrospect but i know i seen my fence start spinning or turning.
kind of seen lady salvia in my left corner view and the rest of these people i felt or kind of saw an outline of multiple people in my right and the were both tugging/fighting over me, that's where i felt the pull on both sides of my body.
i was coming to and realized i didn't finish the bowl completely so i finished it up a bit and cant really remember if it added affects.
i walked into my house after i felt i had some control over my body again.
after my aunt and uncle got home me and my aunt went for food and i saw the at&t stadium that's close to my house in the distance and it just felt like looking at it all new i had a positive energy vibe and i was oddly happy. so strange.
also i didn't make it to 30 sec because i felt my heart racing and realized it was taking affect and i didn't have a sitter so i didn't want to get to messed up.
i was alright though very interesting and im still realizing things that i felt in that experience.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Soulidarity]
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trust
i feel very comfortable with trying dmt i have wanted to since i heard about it years ago.
i feel ready after that trip.
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My post really dug up alot of stuff that i had forgotten about and i wanted to add something.
The scariest part about salvia was never the trip itself. It wasn't the come up, or letting go either. The scariest part about salvia is that the place i went to seemed to be more real than reality itself.
And i kept having the thought that i have been there before and i will end up there again.
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yes that is sort of how i felt too. like it was the real reality and i have sort of felt that way on shrooms.
it wasnt really scary to me just kind of left me confused.
it felt intense but i wasn't scared of the experience more afraid that my aunt or uncle would come home and think i went insane but that's it.
i was so confused feeling like i was in real reality and just in awe at how little i smoked and how profound the affect was.
its weird how im still remembering little things i noticed like how my legs were spread like a V and they got longer and more spread apart through that game of tug of war with lady salvia and the other people were playing with my mind and body.
it affected my memory for a few minutes after i had to piss right after i got inside and i left the light on in there and shut the door then walked around speaking out loud saying "oh my god" and i saw the bathroom light was on and the door shut and thought someone was home then shortly after i remembered i just pissed and no one was home.
I know it was more of a beginning exp. and i could have went further. felt like what i imagine it would feel like before you blast off into hyper space.
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i was so confused feeling like i was in real reality and just in awe at how little i smoked and how profound the affect was.
Imagine the power of the entire 30g! That is a very powerful little bag of leaf

I really hope someone experiments with different analogues of salvinorin A like the Salvinorin B Ethoxymethyl Ether. I would like a slightly more mild and much longer lasting salvia experience, it could theoretically work by adjusting solubility and absorption but its beyond my skills or resources.
Talking about all this salvia makes me want a joint of it
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
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Salvia could be fun if it didn't feel like getting your skin peeled off each time, and skin peeled off the inside of yourhead each time too/needles in your head and skin
but that lasts only 2min
maybe one day science will research enough on Sal. A to find an analog that doesn't peel your skin/give needle on skin sensation
it only lasts for 2mins.... then the trip goes wild and pleasant - no such bodyload anymore
the new bodyload is usually invisible walls / new reality you must adhere to you get transfered to a new dimension it seems, and if there are walls it will hurt to get teleported into the wall and not being able to move out of it 
its common getting stuck in a couch/merging with couch or furniture etc. , that can hurt too
or getting squeezed into the wall
With your music you can make sure Salvia trips get pleasant, never listen to dark psytrance / psykovsky on Salvia, that is unpleasant as hell
No music, or very very calm low volume music
Another very interesting note: there is no bodyload on Salvia if you lay down it seems, no needles on skin, no unpleasantness almost - it is very limited there
seems bodyload gets increasingly stronger if you sit up, if you listen to music
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i was so confused feeling like i was in real reality and just in awe at how little i smoked and how profound the affect was.
Imagine the power of the entire 30g! That is a very powerful little bag of leaf

I really hope someone experiments with different analogues of salvinorin A like the Salvinorin B Ethoxymethyl Ether. I would like a slightly more mild and much longer lasting salvia experience, it could theoretically work by adjusting solubility and absorption but its beyond my skills or resources.
Talking about all this salvia makes me want a joint of it 
ive been taking small pinch hits with my cousin he is laughing his ass off every hit and increasing dose to go further and further.
now im thinking about rolling a jay. how much should i put in if .3 blew me away?
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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And it is one hell of an expeirence laying under a blanket and now you are in a parking lot, that is one weird blanket man! (the blanket feels like stone ground/walls now)
Plz Salvia I didn't want to go to that parking lot again!
Put on a jacket if you lay down, it may get cold out there...
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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I would use .5 to 1.0g and if its too much just nub it out and save the resinous roach for another time. Dont use any type of filter or it will steal your hits lol
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
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will do!
my cousin REALLY enjoyed it.
hes starting to do it more than i.
he hasnt had an intense trip but he did reach a trip level.
i woke up today after being up over 24 hours.
salvia made me not feel dead tired but i was a little tired i woke up today and it all feels distant like i feel refreshed from yesterday and ready to go for an intense trip again.
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The scariest part about salvia was never the trip itself. It wasn't the come up, or letting go either. The scariest part about salvia is that the place i went to seemed to be more real than reality itself.
And i kept having the thought that i have been there before and i will end up there again.
THIS. Salvia land really feels like an actual alternate dimension, its like waking up from a dream and your dream was life.
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Dude don't want to be the buzz kill btw but you have yet to be blown away. Smoke an extract or keep building your reverse tolerance with the leaf and you'll go far far away.
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im sure man i did reach level 4 on just .3 in one hit out of my bong but since, ive been going to level 2 or 3.
this leaf is potent and i got a lot of it so i am sure i will be blown away soon maybe tonight!!!
ive been only packing little pinches since.
my cousin really likes this stuff, im happy as fuck he does!
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Plz make a trip report, I wouldn't mind hearing just how potent plain leaf can be , without trying extract first
Most people say it doesn't work for tripping...
write down your doses and make a report, would be really nice, then I may try out leaves one day too/more people may , because rumors usually are you cannot smoke plain leaves and trip
are you using MJ with it?
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21823755 - 06/18/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i already posted my most profound experience earlier in this thread.
the small pinches were very subtle kind of saw a wave of energy with one hit also saw the wall texture kind of flow to the left but only when i made my self not focus on anything directly. once i would look at the visual directly it went away.
felt the slight buzz kind of got the giggles, confusion, and memory was hard to access a bit.
also kind of just zoned out on it.
that's all i can remember so far i will be going a little further tonight.
my cousin woke up and took a hit. i didn't because i don't want to get caught by my aunt smoking in their house i have little more respect for them than that.
i wish i could just keep smoking it and what not but my aunt and uncle just wont understand so i lied and told them i have kratom.
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Here are a few of my salvia trip reports...very crazy, intense experiences. I absolutely love salvia, even though the thought of doing it again makes me weak in the knees 
My very first salvia trip.... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18043225
and another. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18605634
Enjoy!
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thanks for the reports i know what you mean about making your knees weak.
its like i know its going to be crazy and i want to do it but its just like i know its going to be intense soo yeah..
when i did the full bong load i didn't expect what i got and didn't even think about it just quickly packed it up when my aunt and uncle went to the store went out side and just went for it.
intense, man.
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Just smoked a bong load of salvia and felt sort of like i did yesterday.
felt like life was a story book trying to stay open i don't even know how else to explain it other than that.
like separating from this dimension sort of.
felt lady salvias presence again and i think i love her...
started laughing really weird and loud.
i really like this stuff im very happy i got it.
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Dude I love her too. Once you build that relationship with her she will show you some love back. Butttt she is still the lady salvia so don't get too comfortable because she loves to blow your mind more and more each time.
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yeah i get this feeling like shes preparing me for a deeper experience.
had euphoria as i was coming down a bit and i felt more comfortable with the experience than i did when i first did it.
my first bowl was pretty big compared to what i have been doing since.
very under rated substance IMO.
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Im glad you enjoy it. I think it is a very important substance because it is another addition to the understandings of what our brains are capable of. Is our brain a computer programmed to experience reality the way we do? and are psychedelic chemicals additional software that allow us to experience other realities? I sure hope so.
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my cousin has yet to have a breakthrough exp. but idk if he has and just doesn't have the vocabulary or understanding to describe what happened to him.
the main thing he said he felt was a "flow" and while I was sober trip sitting him I didn't really understand until I did a big hit again today and I remembered how that "flow" feels.
very interesting what the mind is capable of!
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Here's a recent salvia trip I had, it was super euphoric, and it was plain leaf salvia.
So pretty much I took a decent hit, but I wasn't expecting too much. I turned off my lights and for a second I thought I was not gonna feel anything. I then just flew out of my body, and just went into space. I hit the moon and just bounced from it. I was laughing(I had this big smile, it was weirdly fun) and I just started bouncing from planet to planet just smiling and enjoying it. I then returned to reality. Just feeling that salvia sensation for a bit.
It was weird, felt pretty short and was strangely enjoyable.
Just gotta love and respect salvia.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Achillita]
#21826566 - 06/19/15 02:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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just had another exp.
sort of went into a dream like state for literally seconds/ a moment but I felt as if I had sort of experienced a dream. felt the same force as before and lady salvias presence. in the dreamish state I remember seeing a little girl.
my cousin just had a stronger trip sort of similar to mine.
he felt a male energy or entity in his left peripheral and lady salvia, or a female energy/entity in the right of his peripheral. he said it felt like something said or like it was giving him an option to go the left way or the right way.
this is just how I interpret his tripfrom how he explained it and may not be exactly how he felt.
he hates explaining himself because, my guess, it gives him anxiety and aggravates him. so I calmly explained it was okay if he doesn't explain it exactly how he felt and just to do the best he can and that's when he calmed a bit and told me the best he could.
it feels pretty psychedelic to me but I don't think I have ever experienced a dissociative so I don't have a frame of reference.
also my memory is still slowly coming back to me.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: nomad165]
#21828727 - 06/19/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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nomad165 said: They say if you are gunna do extract to start with 5x extract. I would strongly agree with this. Stupid me who wants the most out of all drugs went and bought 20x extract.
First small cone and bam I was fucked beyond belief. I was panicking that I could not get a sliding door open and that I was trapped. Once I got the door open the hallway became about 3 inches wide so I couldn't walk down it. It was very scary, I forgot I had even taken anything and I thought this was my new reality. I started sweating profusely and then remembered that it only lasts 15 minutes so I calmed down. Its indescribable the how intense and how strong this drug is.
It took a few drinks before I tried it again. This time it kicked even harder and everything I seen in my peripheral vision seemed to fold up like pages in a book. It seemed like everything in the world and universe was this book and me and my little life were on one page. I was out side of the book that had folded up. It was scary as hell. I felt I was in this space or void like I was dead and left the world. But wa just in some dark place. Then everything slowly went back to normal and I was sweating like a mother fucker again.
very similar to how I felt on my first trip but I didn't feel fear just intensity. took me a while to recollect the book thing. the book felt like a dimension/reality or something. there was another dimension/reality behind me but it didn't feel like a book. very hard to explain to someone who hasnt exp what I did. lady salvia was there and other entities/energies as well.
I like the nonsense of it TBH. ive heard it compared to/related to a carnival ride and I would agree with that as well.
ALOT of strange things happen with lady salvia.
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ive heard it compared to/related to a carnival ride and I would agree with that as well.
How weird! My girlfriend says her first time smoking concentrate was like a carnival ride.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
#21830935 - 06/20/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah It was strange and interesting. some people say its not "fun" but I think it can be.
I have been sprinkling it over my weed bong loads and I can feel a very subtle "buzz feeling" and my memory seems more of than usual. I really like sprinkling it on my tree.
im now just waiting for the right time to trip, everyone in the house is about to go to bed.
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Salvia is like a carnival ride, with weird puppets , your friends look like fake puppets something like from Saw
fake 2d looking puppets
and you feel trapped in that fake looking reality, surreal reality, you cannot get out
even if your furniture speaks to you and looks fake, you think it is real
usually starts with the pulling of ropes, an invisible rope pulls you to the corner of your room then you get squeezed into the walls, an endless river appears and you feel floating on water in the middle ages
you meet some entities that say 'here' , and you say 'what?'
and then it just goes over and over, confusing as hell
Salvia definitely makes you "stoned" with leaf use, but I am not sure I like that stoned feeling, I usually get bad memory enough already when I smoked weed, salvia made my memory even worse I think
So as with any psychedelics that's why I recommend not to smoke every week, it seems to take me years to integrate my trips on Salvia, if I trip before that I would probably lose all grounding in reality I feel
But that is with 5x-20x, leaves can probably be chewed more often and used meditatively
I just feel the same kind of "hangover" that I can get from weed, confusion, not "fully back" next morning etc. - that is rarely pleasant, but maybe Salvia and weed is not for me
I feel Salvia trips almost exactly like Lucid Dreams, and they can impact the rest of my life, and if I dreamt lucid dreams every night I would be a weird fuck, would weird me out completely, I would have no contact with this reality at all
Seems lucid dreams take weeks,months to integrate, even though quickly forgotten
Same seems with Salvia for me... - so be careful, even with leaves, that "stoned feeling" is not too good if it lasts days after
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore] 1
#21832111 - 06/20/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It seems you can go so deep into your psyche that it scars the psyche to speak about it
Lucid dreams can do that easily for me Bad trips Salvia trips
Because it is so otherworldly you cannot bring it back, so you feel trapped there when you cannot bring it back, hard to describe
An unintegrateable trip is not enjoyable, I have had a trip once that took maybe 1-2 years to process before - and bad trips,salvia trips,lucid dreams are up there too
They may take a whole life to integrate, so should be respected in a "sacred space" IMO, or with closely trusted people, preferably not at moms house etc.
Do set,setting,dose wrong, you may just regret it the rest of your life - like a high dose of shrooms , it is not weaker on your psyche just because it only lasts 15mins! - it is harder it seems
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21832187 - 06/20/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have been adding it to the top of my bong "snaps" and its doing something for sure.
making my highs more "trippy" like when I was younger.
I really resect this plant a lot and everything you say sounds right.
the exp. is very interesting that's the best I can say about it.
me and my cousin have respect for this plant and we have both had nothing but strange times that we enjoy in retrospect.
I dose properly every time. I researched 3 weeks straight before trying this plant.
I believe cannabis and salvia are perfect with each other.
I don't think I would ever do an extract the raw plant is perfectly fine for me.
also the peak goes quick alone but with weed the whole exp last longer. but is more "chill" as my cousin put it.
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It works well with weed like that yup
But both weed and salvia can open people up to something they are not ready for, it seems 50% get out intact and maybe 10% shouldn't have smoked it
So I just don't feel comfortable about recommending psychedelics to my friends, I also had one get a bad trip before (a friend of a friend) after sharing some salvia
Salvia bad trips are... bad, you don't wish your friends to have that so you better inform your friends that bad trips are a possibility, so they dont freak out and run around
That's what I heard the guy did..
I'm not sure if I can ever share psychedelics with anyone again after hearing that, the guy clearly wasn't respecting salvia, had given another guy double dose
Made me feel quite bad afterwards... but luckily I didn't know the guy personally
Salvia lasts a short time, so a bad trip is limited in what hell it can produce probably, but the risk is still real and anybody you have trip with you should be informed of the risks of bad trips before doing it I think I don't really feel encouraged to share psychedelics with anyone anymore
Have any of you shared psychedelics with people you know and they had a good experience? especially people who are not hardcore trippers/who haven't done drugs before?
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60x Extracts!!! note: my most intense salvia experiences have been completely alone with 60x. I also have a theory that these "pages" everyone seems to be experiencing (this isn't the first i've heard of this experience) are just layers of the multiverse. when you smoke a high dose you travel through a couple "pages" and are temporarily in another plane of existence for a moment. anyway, that's it for my theories here's my report;
one day i was home alone and I decided to smoke some salvia on the toilet.. this wasn't abnormal because i dab on the pot frequently. anyway, I loaded two fat rips of 60 x into my little sneak a toke and left the door to the bathroom open so I could make sure my dog doesn't into the garbage. after i took a shit I pushed play on lucy in the sky with diamonds and took these fatty rips holding them in as much as possible, after i let them out I looked to the wall on my right and it was gone. replaced with a beautiful field full of flowers with a line of trees on the right hand side. at this time the song was at the part that goes "newspaper taxis appear on the shore, waiting to take you away" and marching along this line of trees coming towards me were a bunch of dark blue, mean looking soldier dudes and when they got to me I turned into a chain link fence made out of people then started feeling the salvia spins how you kinda start feeling like you're flipping up, then on the wall in front of me I saw the cross section of the chain link fence but the inside of the pipe was human flesh then I heard my dog start to whine because i was so out of it which snapped me out of it then I went and lay down with him until i came down completely.
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my cousin who has only smoked weed before salvia enjoys the effects , as do I.
I've done boomers 4-5 years 1-2 times a years.
thanks for the report!
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Just had another exp. that stuck out.
I had been smoking this stuff of the top of my bong loads lately because weed seems to "chill" out the intense "buzz" that comes with the exp.
well I put a half half bowl of the stuff ripped it held it in of 30 sec and it came on very subtle and I remember having the feeling I have read about where I merged with the wall directly to my left outside followed by a lot of euphoria. and the playful thought process.
I still have nothing but positive things to say about salvia. I see how it can not be for everyone but I enjoy and have found an immense respect for this plant.
Edited by Trichome_Delta9 (06/20/15 09:12 PM)
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I still have nothing but positive things to say about salvia. I see how it can not be for everyone but I enjoy and have found an immense respect for this plant.
It warms my heart to hear that
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
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Thanks again man This is some GOOD shit
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experiment update.
smoked two bowls this morning with weed in both. first bowl had the trippy salvia head space but no visuals. very relaxing second was a little more and I had the flowing visuals ,i guess that's the "eye candy" ive read about. this was even more relaxing. and I got the giggles. ive had this flow thing a few times now. not every trip is visual but all have been very imaginative.
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just wait until you become completely engulfed in the experience. it's something new altogether. that "eye candy" is nothing. lady salvia has much more to show you and when she does you won't have a choice. part of you will want to hold back. stay in reality but she just pulls you through her world. you don't truly know salvia until she has shown you a know a full experience IMO
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idk if I have been experiencing this or not.
I cant really explain what my experiences are like anymore. at least not well enough to be satisfied with. they are intense and like I get lost in my thoughts, and reality changes.
I am still really enjoying it the way ive been using it.
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Trichome_Delta9 said: experiment update.
smoked two bowls this morning with weed in both. first bowl had the trippy salvia head space but no visuals. very relaxing second was a little more and I had the flowing visuals ,i guess that's the "eye candy" ive read about. this was even more relaxing. and I got the giggles. ive had this flow thing a few times now. not every trip is visual but all have been very imaginative.
Nice! That's the spot I've been longing to visit. Good job. 
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
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I have been experimenting with this stuff a lot and I have had some of the most interesting experiences in my life on this stuff.
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Been reading what I could find that you posted. Great stuff! 
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
#21836662 - 06/21/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks.
Youre threads were a part of my research for this plant.
thanks for that too.
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I like dissociatives like nitrous and k. That being said, would I like salvia?
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Trichome_Delta9 said: idk if I have been experiencing this or not.
I cant really explain what my experiences are like anymore. at least not well enough to be satisfied with. they are intense and like I get lost in my thoughts, and reality changes.
I am still really enjoying it the way ive been using it.
the best way to tell is based on how much reality you are perceiving. these experiences i am referring to have fully incompassed my perception of reality to the point where i don't perceive reality at all.
As long as you are having fun there is no such thing as a waste.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: King Klick]
#21836922 - 06/21/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you like nitrous you will probably like salvia if you can ignore the body high and mild claminess.
I remember doing nitrous and salvia before by popping a charger and holding the hit in the balloon, then i packed a bowl of salvia, took a few hits and followed that by aspirating the nitrous in the balloon for about 10 seconds.
It was really fun and completely deabilitating to say the least but i found the visuals to be less distinctive than on salvia concentrate itself.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
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Toadstool5 said: If you like nitrous you will probably like salvia if you can ignore the body high and mild claminess.
I remember doing nitrous and salvia before by popping a charger and holding the hit in the balloon, then i packed a bowl of salvia, took a few hits and followed that by aspirating the nitrous in the balloon for about 10 seconds.
It was really fun and completely deabilitating to say the least but i found the visuals to be less distinctive than on salvia concentrate itself. 
Mild claminess? Body highs are cool
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: King Klick]
#21837057 - 06/21/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah a lot of my friends and myself get chills and slightly sweaty when we smoke it even in the winter.
Thats the number one complaint i hear about salvia. The sweat and chills.
Normally i love a good body load like indica vs sativa cannabis but i could do without the salvia feel.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
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i felt the sweaty and clamminess in my first uses, but now it seems to be very psychedelic to me. I have never done a dissociative though so I have no frame of reference.
I feel like its a mix of both because it is a bit different from the psyches if used.
I have been smoking it quite frequently I give salvia a
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brief report:
Stretched like taffy. Creepshow oil slick, being stretched. "I told you not to come here again," it said. Terror. Like being involved in a car accident or other trauma.
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thank for the report!
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I only smoke every couple years for one to three sessions heavily. So it might be why I feel sweaty and not quite on my A game afterwords for a few hours.
Not having any tolerance will change the experience by a lot.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
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yes I have noticed my coordination and memory have been off lately. I have read this returns to normal after a few days of no use, so im not worried im actually enjoying it
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another update.
smoking it out of really short fat joints gives a slight trippy buzz but no profound affects.
I can tell the difference between a joint and bong for sure.
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dont waste your salvia on joints, been there done that!
it wont work...
salvia vaporizes at a high temp, only works in bong with torch lighter
here's how I smoke salvia: glass bong + bonghead w. fine wiremask hold torch lighter on with redhot flame while sucking
after sucking all smoke, hold smoke in lungs for 30 secs or hit is wasted
repeat tokes, refill the bong if you need more than 1 hit...
keep doing until you don't know what a bong is
with 5x I usually need 2-3+ hits
there seems to be a technical reason you need to hold the smoke 30+ secs in your lungs at least, you wont trip much with 20secs (I've tried that once) I always hold for 30secs, that always works great
people who only hold for 10secs don't trip at all, yet they claim they do - salvia only gets into the blood right when you hold for 30secs , for some reason, its because you need to take all the drug within 1-1.5min or so, before it leaves the body! iirc
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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it doesn't feel wasteful.
the buzz is nice to have every once in a while since im out of weed until I go back to Michigan.
I don't think you have to necessarily "trip" on salvia to enjoy it.
its like saying you can only enjoy weed if you smoke a ton at one time.
I hole these joint hits in for 30 sec and still get a minor buzz that I find enjoyable and not a bad substitute for when I don't have weed.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21841696 - 06/22/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes joint hold for 30secs in lungs is just very unhealthy probably
you need to light the material while sucking if using joints and it likely wont make you trip, unless you got a torch lighter then you may get lucky if you can make a really fat joint
salvia can give me the same stoned feeling weed can so I know what you mean it can be nice, extremely heavy stoned feeling
could hardly get out of the couch for maybe 30+ mins
I don't remember the method, but it was plain leaves either quid or grav bong or both, gives a very intense stoned feeling almost asleep and half awake... then visuals usually too - half asleep visuals, reality fading etc.
not real visuals, but if you relax enough I bet you may have interestin experience in the long run
just don't damage your lungs with holding joint smoke for 30secs there's a reason people use bongs, it cools their air so it doesnt damage the lungs when you hold it long
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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Yeah I get the "fleeting" visuals off the bong it very psychedelic to me in that way.
textures start flowing and im very zoned out.
im not too worried about the health aspect I used to smoke cigs a lot.
first use of this stuff was a trip but since I havet really had as intense of a trip as on my first experience.
I need the right set and setting to have another full blown trip and that will be awhile.
good thing I got an O of the stuff!
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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Hehehe you will be very interested to know that Dream Herb does the same to me that Salvia does, just even more intense visuals
but either those visuals are from air deprivation fro mthe huge bonghit
or maybe its a bit active too..
good lucid dream plant, but it tastes like shit, never smoke it had to clean my mouth,tongue,bong after smoking it - is worse than smoking mushroom powder must taste like almost ;-)
it gave me a half awake half dreaming experience, but no lucid dreams that night
Salvia on the other hand increased my lucid dreams a lot, but made then very intense/maybe too intense, 3 each night vs 0-1 each night normally Salvia seems to have some of the benefits of most other psychedelics, of increased awareness and clairity - but also easier to give bad trips(confusion)
If you respect it it can be a good teacher, I think I learned something from when I used it, my thoughts changed quite a bit I think, in good ways But I also grew it, beautiful houseplant, chewed it/smoked it when it had enough leaves
It turns all its leaves towards the light source, just like most other plants , it will even bend its whole stem towards the light source
So in half a day it had turned all its leaves and stem around when I moved the bulb
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Here's a trip report: Mild dysphoria every time. Spinning sensation. Slack-jawed staring at nothing. Tastes like shit. Headache on comedown.
Salvia is only "fun" as a novelty to see how weird it is. Other than that it's never been useful or enjoyable to me or my friends.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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I litrerally just got back from a hit 3 min. from this post and HOLY SHIT felt like I was in a story book or something again.
shits crazy!
edit:2min later, I felt insane for a little bit there salvia has some interesting power.
now I kinda got a good feeling goin on not to sure how to explain it.
slowly comin back to reality.
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Trichome_Delta9 said: I litrerally just got back from a hit 3 min. from this post and HOLY SHIT felt like I was in a story book or something again.
shits crazy!
edit:2min later, I felt insane for a little bit there salvia has some interesting power.
now I kinda got a good feeling goin on not to sure how to explain it.
slowly comin back to reality.
Just watch out, don't smoke it everyday just like you wouldn't take mushrooms everyday
You know what I mean..
If you do it everyday you risk derealization, not knowing if your thoughts are real or not
But the person who lives in illusion cannot see it himself
This can happen with any psychedelic if you overdo it, so respecting it means even if you got 25Oz that you only use it in planned set,setting,dose preferably
They also work better when we use them planned, can be magic if we respect it
I think it confuses me much too much to smoke plan leaves only without anything, I would rather smoke weed then
But chewing it can be nice, you can get a pleasant trip that way if you chew enough, lots is needed, more than you think - I've tried 3-4 times to reach a trip dose that way without luck, but almost there
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Trip report.
took my rip off a kiefy load of salvia
started think and got the usual flowing patterns then my thoughts got VERY strange and I felt as if I were back in my first trip. felt like another trick was being played on me but this time was less "freaky" since ive been there before.
weird thing is I remember my aunt and lady salvia or some lady talking about me but I cant remember or I couldn't comprehend what they were saying but they were also talking about my cousin.
this is such a strange substance and I feel more and more that I do this stuff that this is similar to be awake and dreaming.
VERY interesting.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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tomorrow will be my last day for a couple weeks.
I see what you mean though after using this stuff everyday for 5 days I feel like it can easily change the way you think and view reality.
my thought process is strange but I feel it fade back to normal as im coming down and when I wake up in the morning I feel like im out of the state of mind and much more sober than the day before.
this stuff makes me sleep a lot longer than usual that is something I have noticed as well.
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final trip report for a few weeks.
Reverse tolerance kicking in. smoked less than usual out of the bong and I have experienced powerful trips that are very hard to explain.
I was still somewhat in reality but I wasn't at the same time.
these trips are becoming much more difficult to explain.
still have nothing but positive things to say about this stuff. I see how it is DEFINITELY not for everyone.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said: Salvia on the other hand increased my lucid dreams a lot, but made then very intense/maybe too intense, 3 each night vs 0-1 each night normally
How do you like that! Me too! Not the first night, but usually the next. Can't believe you wrote that. It's one of the reasons that motivates me to use the plant.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
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have been having more vivid dreams as well. also i have been sleeping well over 8 hours.
wake up really refreshed from the day before.
cant wait to experiment with this stuff again.
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If you enjoy salvia that much I highly suggest you explore some other classic psychedelics. They have a lot to offer
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Oh yeah im sure i would LOVE Dmt.
i already loves shrooms and i got a connect for those when i get back to Michigan
lsd im not too interested in trying but i would if i had the chance and its from a trusted source.
salvia land feels like a waking dream space. that's the best I can describe it.
i know salvia is different from all other psyches, is Dmt more comfortable than salvia?
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My brief salvia trip reports are... first time I tried a salvia joint and it didn't do anything, next I tried guiding and this made me feel slightly drunk plus a strange feeling as though I was being pulled backwards or downwards, next it was another joint, but this time I used a torch, the results were same as guiding, but in addition it scorched my lungs (avoid this is all I can advice) wont try this again. I then tried 5 X extract (I manufactured it myself) smoking it from a small bong and I took a really big hit too, first sensations were colourful swirling rotating visuals and then unconsciousness, I awoke in a confused state, in short I would call it a mind or reality reset experience, didn't know who or what I was and had to rebuild reality as my capability to do so returned as the trip subsided. Next time I tried salvia after drinking a bottle of wine, I did the bong thing again but this time with straight leaf, I looked at my wife as it hit me and she turned in to fish scales and I remember I didn't know what she actually was, the sensation lasted a few seconds only but it struck me as hilarious that something as familiar as my old gal could suddenly become so mysterious and inscrutable, lol.
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Nice reports! thanks for contributing.
this is a very strange substance.
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Here is one of my lighter trips. This is from one year, one month ago. I posted in trip reports a while back.
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I walk into the woods, bubbler bowl loaded with .1 gram plain leaf salvia. I find a medium sized tree covered by canopy and sit down against it. I take a minute to breathe and relax, eyes closed. I smoke the salvia with a bic lighter holding the flame on it for most of the time. Hold for 20 seconds after inhaling deeply. Exhale. Finish the rest. Exhale after 20 seconds. Feel immediately 10 seconds into first hit. Body tingling, sort of pulling inward. Not the usual needles I have felt before, perhaps from the lower dose.
I immediately remember this feeling, its like I am back home to a place I haven't been for years (its been almost a year to the dot). I close my eyes and feel in the back left of my head a female presence, but it is subtle. Does not feel as the same one before on a higher dose. This one feels rather neutral, slightly kind, almost like a tour guide. Her job. I think about what others have seen, these thoughts and recently read trip reports distract me. I remember the thought about fences, but no! I sense I must feel what I feel, so I try to relax and let go. Tablecloth. Tilted table cloth. It seems plad. I remember this from another trip almost four years ago, and I had completely neglected to remember this detail. I never considered it much at the time either.
I see diagonal lines like a triangle, but many of them and one moves up, while the other moves down. Less like seeing, more like feeling, more like knowing. The feelings persist and I move on, opening my eyes.
The leaves above in the canopy immediately grab my attention. So bright, so vivid. Just the tips of them seem to be illuminated. I see all of them standing out. I stare up and the sky and it is pure white. Everything is so bright and vivid. I look downward, through the trees and bushes and it becomes a bit flat, sort of two-dimensional, yet I can also separate them perfectly.
My foot distracts me and so do the flies. A snorting deer almost angers me from pulling me from this other world. I begin to get up and walk, its a bit difficult and I walk a different way and have trouble, which it shouldn't have. I choose another route. A tiny, tiny purple flower somehow jumps to my attention and I turn around to find it, I didn't expect it to be so small and I am not sure how it seemed so purple, as now it seems mostly white. I see immense detail of such a small small row of these. I stare at it for some indeterminable amount of time and decide to return home to write what I experienced, before the details are lost. --------
I write this while comming down, and it is difficult to proof read it right now, I am going to try to find some image of what I saw with the moving lines to give a better picture. I am not very good at this type of thing, but I find the salvia experience so strange and amazing I felt the need to share. I want to start experiencing with measured dosages to hit a sort of sweet spot, because I have accidently been inches from ego death from two bowls of plain leaf. I think if I can gradually keep taking myself deeper I can learn to perhaps sort of understand this odd world. I feel the need to continue.
As a side note it seems this is an extremely small dose for some people. Perhaps this is because of reverse tolerance and how far deep I have gone before, I am not sure. I was hoping for a slightly stronger experience, but next time I will adapt dosage wise.
Also I thought I smoked all .1 but it was probably about .08-.09, about half of a decent sized bowl.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: d0urd3n]
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Thanks for your report I can find similarities in your experiences with mine. the female presence in the back of your head or where you cant see her is what I have been experiencing lately.
I remember seeing a silhouette of her in my left perphrial the first time I ever smoked this stuff and it was around .3 of plain leaf. that made me realize I didn't need that much.
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Actual final trip report.
This is my actual final trip report for a few weeks. I smoked some flakes on a bong of some tree and blasted off with out holding the hit in. the music I was listening to in the car with my cousins system sent me into trance mode and euphoria.
I experienced some eye candy that, as usual, was fleeting. This trip I got lost in my thoughts and lost in conversation with my cousin. we would talk for what felt like at least a half hour and it felt like we talked about a lot but every time I looked at the clock it had only been 1-3min. I was feeling this way for about 15 min.
then time did a 180 and time felt sort of like it was skipping. I was much higher than usual for about an hour then I started to feel more just high from weed. I get really sociable sometime on salvia and I am really sociable after the experience.
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update: haven't smoked it in a few days and I notice somehow weed was a lot more stronger fir a while there. I have been really tired lately and in a weird head space.
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Do you think it is because of the frequent smoking of salvia? Or just because you have been tired? I've never smoked salvia more than 2 days in a row.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Achillita]
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I feel strongly that it has been because of my 5 days continued heavy use. Sort of felt burnt out and sort of trippin for the first few days since. slowly starting to feel more and more normal. I at one point was smoking an 8th of weed a day/ounce a week and I never really felt it to be as strong as I have noticed lately. although this has died down a bit and weed isn't feeling as strong as it did the first few days. I believe it was just stronger because it sort of felt like when I smoked the salvia mind space came back to me. I have been really tired and smoked before but it was different after discontinued use of salvia. I did mix it with my weed and I feel like that has influenced it greatly.
I will use this stuff again but I will take it easy next time. maybe once or twice a week if I feel like even doing it that way. cant help but say this shit is a strange substance.
my experience with it has been VERY psychedelic.
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Hey, T.D.:
Based on your description your recent drug usage probably accounts for your fatigue and lassitude. I know I go on rants from time to time, but I hate to see folks have health and lifestyle issues on account of psychedelics.
While I'm a strong advocate for most all of the known safe psychedelics, I strongly feel it should not be your primary hobby activity after work and family. I try and treat my psych use like an occasional tasty dessert. If you make it your main meal, it's going to negatively impact the important things in life, like your health, work, and relationships with spouse, family and friends.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Nature Boy]
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Psychedelics are not just to get high, they smash your psyche each time usually, so if you use them to get high you will very quickly regret it
Imagine if you took 4g shrooms each day, within 1-2 weeks you would be a looney - and the effect would last years before you would get somewhat back to normal
The person abusing psychedelics just cannot see it himself/herself. Everyone else can see.
They are wonderful tools if used respectfully, but I've seen plenty disrespect them, and I've also tried it myself with occasional binges. Disrespecting them is doing them more than once a week, and once a week is just on the border of abuse too usually..
They take time away from your real life each time, and also on the comedown which lasts days/weeks usually with intense psychedelics like shrooms/LSD/salvia/dmt
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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I understand what you guys are saying and its not for everyone but the comedown is the best part. I am very happy lately just more tired. I feel like I got exactly what I wanted from the experience. That was a one time thing and im glad I did it. I am the type who I don't care what others think of me and everyone I know, knows it. someone posted somewhere here that it can cause de-realization which I noticed that I was having very strange thought but I know that it also feels at the same time like im coming back slowly. yesterday and today I feel pretty much back to normal besides I feel happier than I did before my experiment and I have realized a lot personally that was pretty interesting. all psyche use affects everyone differently. it was good times, goooood times. last week spent with my cousin for a long time.
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Imagine if you took 4g shrooms each day, within 1-2 weeks you would be a looney - and the effect would last years before you would get somewhat back to normal
Lolz
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
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i wanted to bump this again.
I got an ounce of plain leaf a week or so ago and i am amazed with it.
Its almost like this is a different drug than the extracts. I mixed a small amount of leaf into about twice that amount of tobacco, just on a spur of the moment decision. I didn't want to buy more tobacco so i added salvia to stretch out what i had left. I smoked it like a regular cigarette. It was a really stony headspace and i could feel the salvia from the first hit.
I made two more cigarettes last night that were probably 70% salvia, 30 tobacco. Closing my eyes i had pretty liquidy/free flowing type visuals. When i had my eyes closed, moving any part of my body made me feel extremely intoxicated. Kind of like how when you are drunk and it feels like everything is spinning around you. It lasted strong for around 45 minutes and was almost completely gone 75 minutes after.
I should also point out that even though the effects were quite strong, if i left my eyes open, everything is visually the same for the most part and i only would feel a slight tingling sensation on my skin. All of the effects increased greatly when i would close my eyes and just focus on my breathing. My thoughts were starting to jump around a lot and it was nice to just focus on counting my breaths.
The thing i like most though is how it seems to have an anti-depressant effect. I just feel better about being alive afterwards, if that makes sense. This effect happens even when i only smoke a hit or two as well
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It has the same antidepressant effects as psychedelics like LSD/shrooms for me
But it also adds confusion each time like they do (even good trips do)
It disconnects you slightly from this reality each time (that's why people write weirdly when they trip too much), for a few weeks. Incoherent writing...
The antidepressant effects I notice are those of viewing myself differently, closer to nature, everything is beautiful etc. - just like on shrooms Exact same feel as on shrooms afterwards, any object is beautiful after smoking salvia
But then also more confusion than LSD/shrooms, so not only positive sides, that's why I wouldn't use it more than I use shrooms/LSD
Just because you can smoke it everyday doesn't mean it's healthy
But it is a very nice once a month or so antidepressant, world is new feeling drug. When I tripped with friends it was like a good alcohol booze or good LSD trip, so much love, just in the moment, just of laughing etc. Felt kinda reborn... good feeling, lots of fun. Same kind of fun as a shroom trip when I did Salvia with a trusted sitter.
Lots of love lots of laughing, everything is beautiful afterwards.
This was 20x, and 0.035g (medium-high dose), with 5x I find I need to smoke much more to get a trip, else there is no trip (need 3 full bonghits hold for 30secs each... lots of smoke with 5x). With 20x I only need 1-2 tokes of 30sec.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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And the visuals were out of this world. Like a lucid dream. I got LSD like visuals, morphing carpet intensely. Merging with my couch or walls. Becoming one with every object. Furniture talking to me.
Music becoming objects, new reality appearing in front of me. My arms becoming a new reality/a wall outside and I was teleported.
Very psychedelic - always more psychedelic than a high dose LSD with 20x for me
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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I wrote about the anti-depressant effects because its new for me.
I have never had an 'after-glow' from psychs, quite the opposite actually
After taking mushrooms or LSD, i would feel really depressed for a couple weeks afterwards. Even when i smoked the salvia extract, i didn't feel different afterwards, but with the plain leaf i feel great afterwards.
Also with the extract, it felt like the experience was just neutral, not positive or negative.
Also, the plain leaf put me into a deeply introspective mindset.
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I had a strong afterglow from my salvia experience and the ground would morph like you explained every time I hit the stuff.
Be careful with usage do not use everyday like you would weed if you have important things to do; jobs, kids, etc. side affects last longer than you would think.
Have fun, be respectful, stay safe.
also i would like to add its almost like a ride at an amusement park to the point i remember laughing hysterically at the idea of "remain seated keep you head, hands, and feet in the ride at all times, thank you".
Its some strange shit, but i like it!
Edited by Trichome_Delta9 (07/08/15 11:13 PM)
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Update.
everything is completely back to normal weed is the same as it was now. im planning on smoking up again soon maybe in the next week.
remembering my trips i seem to remember how they played out more and more.
also ill be eating boomers and getting deems soon so
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Funny, I was just thinking the same thing and loaded my pipe up
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mines on its way up from texas now. let me know if you trip dont forget to report.
got it in all trying to find the right setting. my mind sets ready just couch hoppin be hard.
will report soon
Edited by Trichome_Delta9 (07/14/15 01:59 AM)
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just smoked a pinch on a snap of weed and it brought back the familiar salvia buzz which i honestly missed.
i feel like reading every body talk about their bad experiences with it makes me more reluctant to do it but once i do it i wish i had done it sooner.
cant wait to smoke some more a lil later.
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I have been meaning to post an update, just been kinda busy doing other shit that i felt like doing instead.
I love the plain leaf though. I smoked a bowl of it out of my pipe and that familiar 'my skin feels like plastic' feeling came back.
I still wouldn't really say that I 'tripped' from the plain leaf.
Its not a trip, just something that is in its own category. Just a little makes me zone out similar to weed. More zoned than stoned.
I'm not too fond of smoking it though. It seems like my sinus are really fouled up for 1-3 days after smoking it.
i am eventually gonna update again with more details about the experience. Its deeply introspective though. A lot of the time, I don't even realize how i was really feeling until the next day or 2.
edit: yeah i know what you mean with the feeling like you did it sooner.
I think i said it before, but salvia makes me feel (lifts depression) ok with the fact that I am a human, stuck in a human body for this 'life'. It reminds me like 'hey its ok dude, you're not going to be like this forever. start looking at the bigger picture'
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I was gonna make my own thread for this story, but I guess i'll put it here!
So today I got quite a lot salvia extract from a friend. I was already pretty high from smoking weed when I pulled it out. I smoked a pinch of it, the world changed. Everything became slightly visual, and I was compelled to load another bowl of weed. As I was doing it, the whole world transformed into a song. It was amazing, but I can't remember the lyrics anymore.
As the song fades away, I thought the effects of salvia were wearing off. I head my front door get thrown open. I hear my mom yelling "where's da weed at?" I freak out, and run into my bathroom with my bong and lighter. I try and hide everything, and I still have no idea why my mom was in my house. I come out and look around and found out my mom actually wasn't here.
I imagined what my mom looked like to, and it was like a smeared image of her. Like a tracer of her actual self. It was quite euphoric throughout, and crazy funny.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Achillita]
#21947441 - 07/15/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MilkdudTitties said: I have been meaning to post an update, just been kinda busy doing other shit that i felt like doing instead.
I love the plain leaf though. I smoked a bowl of it out of my pipe and that familiar 'my skin feels like plastic' feeling came back.
I still wouldn't really say that I 'tripped' from the plain leaf.
Its not a trip, just something that is in its own category. Just a little makes me zone out similar to weed. More zoned than stoned.
I'm not too fond of smoking it though. It seems like my sinus are really fouled up for 1-3 days after smoking it.
i am eventually gonna update again with more details about the experience. Its deeply introspective though. A lot of the time, I don't even realize how i was really feeling until the next day or 2.
edit: yeah i know what you mean with the feeling like you did it sooner.
I think i said it before, but salvia makes me feel (lifts depression) ok with the fact that I am a human, stuck in a human body for this 'life'. It reminds me like 'hey its ok dude, you're not going to be like this forever. start looking at the bigger picture'
have you tried ripping a full bong load of your plain leaf? a pipe and joint of salvia is WAY different than a bong. the bong makes a HUGE difference.
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Achillita said: I was gonna make my own thread for this story, but I guess i'll put it here!
So today I got quite a lot salvia extract from a friend. I was already pretty high from smoking weed when I pulled it out. I smoked a pinch of it, the world changed. Everything became slightly visual, and I was compelled to load another bowl of weed. As I was doing it, the whole world transformed into a song. It was amazing, but I can't remember the lyrics anymore.
As the song fades away, I thought the effects of salvia were wearing off. I head my front door get thrown open. I hear my mom yelling "where's da weed at?" I freak out, and run into my bathroom with my bong and lighter. I try and hide everything, and I still have no idea why my mom was in my house. I come out and look around and found out my mom actually wasn't here.
I imagined what my mom looked like to, and it was like a smeared image of her. Like a tracer of her actual self. It was quite euphoric throughout, and crazy funny.
nice report sounds like some crazy shit for some reason i feel like i can sort of imagine what the intense experiences are like. my guess is its very dreamy.
i really like putting some on top of my weed that what i have been doing lately just gives me that zoned out feeling playful thoughts and memory is a lil fucked after smoking more than usual.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21947623 - 07/15/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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best salvia video ever!
update. have yet to trip again since i have gotten it. just keep getting a high thats is quite enjoyable.
i almost prefer smoking like this but i feel it mess with motor skills so more of a once in a while smoke sesh buzz.
but such a mellow high with music sounding better than just a normal weed high.
really relaxed
Edited by Trichome_Delta9 (07/15/15 04:30 PM)
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i feel like being used to the feeling is affecting how intense the trips are. the trips are barely intense and i thinks its also becasue of the weed i smoke with it. the trip was just the salvia head space with the place i was in felt as if it were in one of those tunnels that spin around a bridge at a carnival, but i was just in a garage.
maybe a hypogogic phenomena feeling 
strange shit, after a minute i walked inside to smoke a cig with my best friend since kindergarten and his mom. my vest friend dont smake and is almost opposite to me in everyway but we are still good friends based on how long we have known eachother.
it was weird and i felt like i was trippin but no visuals as usual. level heavy level 2 type shit.
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smoked up twice with weed and salvia on both bowls. starting to feel more and more comfortable on this drug. i can walk on the amounts i am smoking but still get a noticable affect with my highs. really enjoyable trippier than normal highs.
weird happy and awake feeling that usually gets followed by tiredness.
so far a good morning.
sorry if these reports arent that crazy or anything those trips will happen when they happen im not in a rush, the setting is not right for those trips yet.
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smoked twice again and instantly felt the salvia head space and the weed keeps the salvia from getting too out of control or something but I had a feeling that i was comfortable during the experience almost asking myself "is this it" "am i even trippin" but i again could see how someone would be tripped out in the state i was in. i was able to walk and put my bong away i just felt "something was happening" and my thoughts were abnormal. I am still coming down now pretty much baseline on the salvia really high from the weed.
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There is often a lot of misunderstanding how to smoke Salvia
Here is my fav way:
1. use torch lighter, salvia vaporizes at a high temp so it won't work as good with a normal lighter usually 2. use a glass bong , you need to take large tokes 3. use 20x so you need less smoke, if you want a real trip, not too intense, not too little 4. hold toke for as long as you can, at least 30 seconds (salvia only works if hold for 30 secs else it doesn't make you trip, it takes 25+ secs to get absorbed in body and within 1 min or so it's all gone from bloodstream, so you need to take ALL AT ONCE QUICKLY AND HOLD IT)
For solotrips: lay down
For trips with friends: pass the bong , but keep a sober sitter always
It seems to both have recreative potential for couch tripping and solo tripping for me Solotripping is mindblowing, no words can even describe, much like a lucid dream, you just enter a new reality
The benefit of 20x for me is I can trip with 1 toke, else I need to take like 3-5 tokes of 30 secs each, can be exhausting and bad for your lungs. 20x doesn't seem to be too much for me, I usually smoke medium high dose of 0.035g or so iirc, it's a medium high dose. I just wouldn't take a higher extract than 20x. 20x is plenty intense.
I wouldn't go lower as I would need to toke a lot, bad for the lungs. I have tried 5x too, but I found I needed quite a lot of tokes.
** Trip with friends is just as mindblowing as solo tripping... the room morphs and you become objects/the music/back and forth in time
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21953221 - 07/16/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Torch lighter is unnecessary. Use a bic lighter. 20-30 seconds.
The reason its exhausting to the lungs is because you are burning the shit out of them.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: d0urd3n]
#21953259 - 07/16/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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just took another small rip and its so much different than it used to be like. im much more comfortable and nothing to crazy happens. just intoxication a little bit.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: d0urd3n]
#21953346 - 07/16/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: Torch lighter is unnecessary. Use a bic lighter. 20-30 seconds.
The reason its exhausting to the lungs is because you are burning the shit out of them.
Hmm interesting, maybe, but usually I would get the insane cough and can't get air feeling if I smoke coal (tried that from grav bong weed before when the tobacco was roasted too much). Both me and my buddy had an asthma attack and needed to use my inhaler.. lol
So maybe it's not too combusted, no cough at all, smells nice, feels nice in lungs
Overburning stuff like this may not be healthy though I agree, will try with a bic one day, this is just the way I got recommended
I'm not sure if burning at 600C or 1200C would leave more coal in ones lungs really? Probably just about equally unhealthy...
Salvia works well with weed though... can be sprayed on top of weed and work well there It's just that if you smoke it with weed, the spiritual benefits may not be the same as without weed it seems, Salvia usually raises awareness but that doesn't work so good if you got stoned always
The best way for me is without weed for sure, but it works well with weed (better than weed+shrooms for sure)
Edited by lessismore (07/16/15 07:13 PM)
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21953366 - 07/16/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm just saying its will work just fine. I have been seconds from full on ego death, maybe I did hit it and didn't remember. I had no trip sitter or anything.
This was with two medium sized bubbler bowls of plain leaf with a lighter. Trust me, try it next time.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: d0urd3n]
#21953382 - 07/16/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Each time I smoke Salvia, I am in my room and I don't remember taking Salvia, now people come and go / people visit me who are not there
Or I go to a parking lot outside it seems(in the trip) and dont remember smoking salvia, think its real
Huge mindfuck... How did you know you were close to egodeath? , there's usually nothing when that happens
I believe any psychedelic can get you there, incl weed, but it's usually not what people talk about, what people pretend it is, it may be the most unpleasant thing in your life
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21953415 - 07/16/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was put into a suitcase and was being carried away buy a faceless "man". In fact I was a part of a close hanger inside of it actually. Like an atom of it, except it felt a bit larger than that. Inside around me were tons of tiny entities that made up all things.
All I can say is that I knew it was all over when he walked away. That I would forget who I was and would be gone forever.
I don't remember anything after that. It was a few years ago now, so I forget exactly.
And yes I have had some extremely intense experiences on cannabis, and not in a pleasant way at all. I agree it can be very powerful.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21953435 - 07/16/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol epic..
True cannabis is an overlooked psychedelic, can be very psychedelic for me, as much as any psychedelic, you can even connect with the spirit world with it sometimes
I believe Mckenna had it right, do Cannabis rarely but take a few gravbongs in a row when you do, travel out of the solarsystem, but first to Pluto
Cannabis can be as intense as any psychedelic for me mentally, can also give visuals often with grav bong use
And edibles can be very psychoactive too in their own way...
No words can describe what Salvia can do though, except you nailed it pretty good there I've experienced something JUST LIKE that on 5x and 20x (except for fear of universe dieing) :-P
It's just insanity, so mental, it's like a high dose Acid trip on speed
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#21954249 - 07/16/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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another update.
smoking it gives me this carnival feeling, its hard to explain but it feels this way almost every time. i dont not get to fucked up i am able to walk and put my bong away but thing do appear farther away or closer and there is this psychedelic or dissociative feeling and mind set i am in but not too intoxicating to where i cant walk or speak.
I think i am just becoming more comfortable/experienced with the high making it seem less intense its pretty fun.
seems like I remember it gives me these really strange thoughts and memory loss like a mother fucker.
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I got memory loss "like a mother fucker" after the trip often it seems...
But never with shrooms/LSD, there my memory is better than ever, 100x better than normal often, remember even the tiniest details
Salvia does something to my memory, but weed does that too, makes your head feel funny But maybe it's just me... I don't like that feeling/bad memory it can induce
Not talking about memory loss of the trip, Salvia gives amnesia of the trip often, but actually talking about how Salvia can deteriorate my memory a lot , removes all sense of time for a while after
If you want to structure your day, you better have a sense of time, no sense of time is very bad there
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
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i also remember at some point yesterday i became the table i was sitting next to. then sort of felt morphed into the room.
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last report until something more profound happens. took a rip and when i blew out i felt the high from both salvia and weed right away. i remember things getting sort of foggy or black where the stars were and just really zoned out and high, then everything faded back in and i was just really stoned so i packed up another hit of weed and ripped it held that in for the fuck of it and got this really intense euphoric, almost about to pass out feeling that i like with weed. its like a rush of thc. this rush was stronger because i was still feeling the salvia a bit.
soon i will be in the perfect environment to have a deeper trip ill report again then but for now im just going to enjoy it more and report less.
would still like other peoples reports if you got some post here, i really appreciate it.
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So a couple of friends and I were smoking some weed, and my friend decides to get me to mix some of the salvia with the weed. Mainly beause he was scared of smoking the salvia alone. So I put a pinch or 2 of salvia(not enough for an actual trip) with the weed. We smoked it, and holy shit. I got so stoned off of this one bowl. It pretty much magnified the weed by 100x.
If anyone wants to try mixing the two, I'd love to see someone try aswell. Delta seemed to notice similar effects from mixing the two. But just don't put enough salvia to trip you out.
Also the salvia/weed high lasted for about 45 minutes(made everything go by really, really slow though) and then faded off into a nice weed high.
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Achillita] 1
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Here's 2 small trip reports I made (haven't posted anywhere before):
#1 salvia 5x: Once I had deleriant effects from salvia (with 5x)
got visited by friends who weren't there, 2-3 people whom I talked to for a long time (felt like eternity)
my body movements would keep repeating
saw heads of people I know in 3d, in every object in the room, saying stuff to me(tried to pick them up, but the voices still came from the locations)
saw visions of people I 'knew', felt like family, that yelled to me and I yelled back
the whole scene would keep repeating and I could not remember anything
#2 salvia 5x of bong/grav bong in a bucket in the kitchen: my first salvia report smoked 3 bonghits of 5x
never been this stoned before
feels like smoking skunk+skunk visuals,many many visuals
never been so high
I almost floated, got pulled to the sides
sounds that are not there, runging tone - that kept repeating
cotton mouth and red eyes ;-P
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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
#22021054 - 07/30/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I forgot to mention, I smoke weed a lot but i have noticed feeling stoned for up to an hour after smoking salvia. Its not the same as weed, but it zones you out a lot further than weed can.
I'm still not sure if there is reverse tolerance with salvia or if i just have become more accustomed to the effects. I smoked a little bit in my cigarette yesterday and got mild visuals. I only hit the thing like 3 or 4 times too. The visuals resemble the salvia machine, in a yin-yang style formation.
My favorite part about salvia is still the fact that after i smoke it, i can see the comedy in anything.
And it is like a carnival ride. Everything starts doing the machine style yin-yang twist.
We live in an atomic playground.
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I have a bad rating on this site now because the guy who hooked me up got really salty and butthurt because he gave it to me on a front KNOWING i had no job and was working on it. i have tried to get him the money, even after he was a cry baby and very disrespectful to me. oh well though his loss.
anyways thanks to everyone who had posted here im retiring this account for good and just wanted to add how happy i am this thread got as popular as it did and how i appreciate everything contributed to this thread.
i guess people think you are ripping them off even after you keep them up to date everyday with what going on with your situation. idrc though i still got me some sally D and have made some good friends in real life with it so its all good 
again thank you everyone but Toadstool you are exactly what your name says nothing but a big pile of toadstool 
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Took one hit of salvia 20X and held it in for as long as I could. As I exhaled, everything went black and I began to laugh hysterically. I fell over on my side and looked out into the room to see only neon outlines of all of the objects in the room, everything in between was black as outer space. I get up and walk to my room while completely blind, I can still feel and remember how to get to my bed, I finally make it there and lay down. Good thing I got to it in time because I entered another dimension where everything was pitch black and outlined in neon. I saw a large ferris wheel spinning in the distance; it was comprised of dancing neon children. I was having auditory hallucinations of carnival music + laughing. I was convinced that I would be stuck in that place forever and just abruptly "woke up" after what seemed like an eternity. I think it was probably only about 15 minutes. It was the craziest experience I have ever had with any substance-- and i bought it in a store LOL! Make sure you have a sitter and are in a safe place if you ever decide to try it. I don't think I will ever touch it again... too unpredictable.
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I think you might enjoy a much smaller pinch but that was an excellent report. Great description of effects onsetting and how you managed to lie down.
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