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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
    #21814210 - 06/16/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I got salvia 1x on the way. plain leaf, im excited and I have like an O coming so I think I can reach affects if I pack a few bongs and a bubbler and go at it hard.

I will probably only ever go up to 5x it seems like anything more, from what I have read, is almost too intense to be worth experiencing and the memory loss is not interesting at all.


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
    #21814229 - 06/16/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia is active in so small doses, that you can hardly weigh out a dose of 20x on a mg scale..

It's much easier with 5x, easier to redose and weigh it

It seems you cannot take half a dose of 20x sometimes, but with 5x it works fine

That's why I would prefer 5x, but if you are very patient, and calm when you weigh 20x it might be possible to dose low on that too...
Hasn't worked for me yet out of maybe 10 trips

Only the 5x works the way I hoped to trip, and it's very enjoyable actually - 2min pain in start of trip, then morphing stuff without pain , very fun


- And don't tell me you don't need a mg scale! ;-) , Salvia _requires_ a mg scale, a 20x dose is so small you can hardly see it in the bowl... like a few pieces of tea


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21814237 - 06/16/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I got salvia 1x on the way. plain leaf, im excited and I have like an O coming so I think I can reach affects if I pack a few bongs and a bubbler and go at it hard.

I will probably only ever go up to 5x it seems like anything more, from what I have read, is almost too intense to be worth experiencing and the memory loss is not interesting at all.




With plain leaves it is likely you will not trip at all initially, first many bonghits

Only 5x worked for me, and that too took many hits to work

Reverse tolerance seems it needs to build, 5x didnt work initially..

After trying maybe 5+ times, it suddenly worked


Then I needed 3 hits of 5x each time.... so with 1x you may need 15 hits lol - that's not possible

Salvia must be taken within 1-2mins before it leaves the body, else the "hit is wasted". It leaves the blood within this time.

So if you cannot take the whole dose within 1min or so, you have wasted the hit.

That's why people say to keep toking until you cannot understand what a bong is, but with plain leaves it sounds like it just may not work for you, unless you are one of the very few people who trip off plain leaves, a few do. Not even with weed added may you trip. But you may get a nice meditative experience / intense heavy experience (stoned heavy feeling)


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
    #21814247 - 06/16/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i was going to try and smoke .5 out of two different bong bowls making it a full gram of plain leaf then have a bubbler packed with .5-1g in case i need to go further.

I am getting it tomorrow so i will post how it goes here. im going to have an o and experiment a lot with it.

i have read alot of trip reports of plain leaf. i don't expect anything intense just a taste of what savlia can do.


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Trichome_Delta9] * 1
    #21814319 - 06/16/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Smoked 40x salvia one time in my room. I put it in my herbal g-pen vaporizer and took a few hits. After the first hit I felt gravity pull me back. I took another and then everything in my room was spinning and my book shelf had goggly eyes and was communicating with me telepathically. The walls turned into giant spinning fractals that had snake like creatures swimming through them. I heard objects speaking tongues and cowbells and all sorts of wacky sounds going off in my head. I managed to take another hit and all I heard was "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" in my head. My ego had died. I then saw my spinning room being taken apart piece by piece like a puzzle and underneath were these orange beings. I thought I died. I was in another dimension I felt like I had no body but was just floating in this void that felt so familiar despite the other salvia trips. I saw the beings then start rotating this box that was my room and my body was inside of it. The were moving it like some sort of gear. I felt so small compared to them. I felt like they control my life and who I am. It was weird shit. I love salvia and that was the most powerful trip i've ever had off anything. I still cant put it into words but I tried my best.


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21814348 - 06/16/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the report and i love that thing in your sig! i haven't looked at those things in forever!


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21814362 - 06/16/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Any time, Im kind of a salvia advocate. I think something so mind blowing can teach us about our brains and the possibility of inner dimensions. Or maybe these chemicals are latch on to our antennas(receptors) and tune us into a different frequency of what we already experience.  I appreciate it friend :smile:


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21819840 - 06/17/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Got my ounce of salvia im going to smoke it later tonight ill post how it goes here.


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21819916 - 06/17/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just tried like .3 held it in for a little more than 20 seconds blew out and had a fullish experience.  felt lady salvias presence kind of felt like she was playing a joke on me or something. it was pretty interesting.

I must be sensitive to salvia because that was quite a trip.

felt like I was getting pulled left with my left side and right with my right side.

I liked it. only lasted a minute or so then I was pretty much just in a daze questioning what I had just experienced.

I will be going back later tonight with my cousin.

edit: I also remember hearing people talk like lady salvia and other people lady salvia seemed to be laughing for me, I was speechless. I was alone the whole time though..

crazy shit man.


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21820226 - 06/17/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you should try DMT

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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21820363 - 06/17/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Trichome_Delta9 said:
Just tried like .3 held it in for a little more than 20 seconds blew out and had a fullish experience.  felt lady salvias presence kind of felt like she was playing a joke on me or something. it was pretty interesting.

I must be sensitive to salvia because that was quite a trip.

felt like I was getting pulled left with my left side and right with my right side.

I liked it. only lasted a minute or so then I was pretty much just in a daze questioning what I had just experienced.

I will be going back later tonight with my cousin.

edit: I also remember hearing people talk like lady salvia and other people lady salvia seemed to be laughing for me, I was speechless. I was alone the whole time though..

crazy shit man.




Its been almost 6 years since my last trip but for the past month or two i felt like i am ready to finally go back.

I bolded that part of your post because i can relate. I have smoked 5x, 10x and 20x. I always felt like i was being laughed at when i smoked it back then. I realize now that the reason is probably because i was taking WAY too much. I get the feeling that salvia has a twisted sense of humor. Her way of saying that it was too much, was simply by showing me how deep she can take me, which is deeper than my mind could even fathom.

The last trip i took, I smoked 1 hit of 20x extract. I wasn't prepared for it mentally. I dont even remember exhaling, i was already gone and launched into the usual headspace, only this time i was standing at the edge. There was a gateway or doorway of sometype. I remember encountering a female entity near the door.  She didn't say anything, she never has to me before. All she did was start laughing in that twisted, high-pitched voice that i can only describe as the salvia laugh. (anytime i have seen someone else smoke salvia, their tone of laughter changes to match this. Mine does as well.) The next thing i knew, i was being propelled into this new dimesion behind this doorway. I couldn't even comprehend what i was seeing.

Total sensory overload. So much was happening so quickly. I was overcome with terror and fled in the reverse direction. I came back to reality so hard and fast that i was thrown off my bed. I ran outside to check to see if i was actually where i thought i was (back on earth).

This time when i go back, i will just be getting some plain leaf to try chewing it. Extracts are just too much too fast to be able to gain anything meaningful from the experience

Moral of the story? Don't try to dive to the bottom of the deep end when you don't know where the bottom is, or if there even is a bottom


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Soulidarity]
    #21820409 - 06/17/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good to hear it worked lol my friends stuff is really potent compared to most leaf. With his it normally takes about a gram or two to see visuals. Its all pretty fresh and dried very well so that might help.

I do wonder if it is potent due to his care and Maxsea fertilizer or if it is just a potent hoffman/wasson. My cousin had much weaker stuff from a different source of hoffman/wasson so its not uncommon for leaf to be disappointing.

Either way i told him to start growing more so hes stepping up his garden :evil2:

A lot of people feel like they are being laughed at, judged, or watched when they smoke it. Some people i have smoked with actually felt embarassed :shrug:

I personally love smoking salvia on ocassion but only smoke the stronger concentrates like 50x and above. Its not my favorite psychedelic but its fun to experience such a wild card. I would like to sublingually take about half a mg to a mg of crystallized salvinorins on a hit of blotter when i have enough saved up for an extraction lol like a less minty quid


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
    #21821111 - 06/17/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes toadstool this shit is potent thanks man youre the best!

i was oddly able to walk near the end of my trip and when i came back and had the subtle stoned feeling i was just saying out loud alone "holy shit!" and "Oh my god"

it was intense and very interesting.

kind of had a feeling like ive been in that sort of feeling kind of on shrooms or like it was familiar to me.

was intense at the peak and the visuals i experienced are sort of blurry in retrospect but i know i seen my fence start spinning or turning.

kind of seen lady salvia in my left corner view and the rest of these people i felt or kind of saw an outline of multiple people in my right and the were both tugging/fighting over me, that's where i felt the pull on both sides of my body.

i was coming to and realized i didn't finish the bowl completely so i finished it up a bit and cant really remember if it added affects.

i walked into my house after i felt i had some control over my body again.

after my aunt and uncle got home me and my aunt went for food and i saw the at&t stadium that's close to my house in the distance and it just felt like looking at it all new i had a positive energy vibe and i was oddly happy.
so strange.

also i didn't make it to 30 sec because i felt my heart racing and realized it was taking affect and i didn't have a sitter so i didn't want to get to messed up.

i was alright though very interesting and im still realizing things that i felt in that experience.


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Soulidarity]
    #21821117 - 06/17/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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you should try DMT

trust





i feel very comfortable with trying dmt i have wanted to since i heard about it years ago.

i feel ready after that trip.


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21821257 - 06/17/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My post really dug up alot of stuff that i had forgotten about and i wanted to add something.

The scariest part about salvia was never the trip itself. It wasn't the come up, or letting go either. The scariest part about salvia is that the place i went to seemed to be more real than reality itself.

And i kept having the thought that i have been there before and i will end up there again.


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: MilkdudTitties]
    #21821310 - 06/17/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yes that is sort of how i felt too. like it was the real reality and i have sort of felt that way on shrooms.

it wasnt really scary to me just kind of left me confused.

it felt intense but i wasn't scared of the experience more afraid that my aunt or uncle would come home and think i went insane but that's it.

i was so confused feeling like i was in real reality and just in awe at how little i smoked and how profound the affect was.

its weird how im still remembering little things i noticed like how my legs were spread like a V and they got longer and more spread apart through that game of tug of war with lady salvia and the other people were playing with my mind and body.

it affected my memory for a few minutes after i had to piss right after i got inside and i left the light on in there and shut the door then walked around speaking out loud saying "oh my god" and i saw the bathroom light was on and the door shut and thought someone was home then shortly after i remembered i just pissed and no one was home.

I know it was more of a beginning exp. and i could have went further. felt like what i imagine it would feel like before you blast off into hyper space.


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21821890 - 06/18/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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i was so confused feeling like i was in real reality and just in awe at how little i smoked and how profound the affect was.




Imagine the power of the entire 30g! That is a very powerful little bag of leaf
:wellholyshit:

I really hope someone experiments with different analogues of salvinorin A like the Salvinorin B Ethoxymethyl Ether. I would like a slightly more mild and much longer lasting salvia experience, it could theoretically work by adjusting solubility and absorption but its beyond my skills or resources.

Talking about all this salvia makes me want a joint of it :ganja:


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
    #21821973 - 06/18/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia could be fun if it didn't feel like getting your skin peeled off each time, and skin peeled off the inside of yourhead each time too/needles in your head and skin

but that lasts only 2min

maybe one day science will research enough on Sal. A to find an analog that doesn't peel your skin/give needle on skin sensation

it only lasts for 2mins.... then the trip goes wild and pleasant - no such bodyload anymore


the new bodyload is usually invisible walls / new reality you must adhere to
you get transfered to a new dimension it seems, and if there are walls it will hurt to get teleported into the wall and not being able to move out of it :wink:

its common getting stuck in a couch/merging with couch or furniture etc. , that can hurt too

or getting squeezed into the wall


With your music you can make sure Salvia trips get pleasant, never listen to dark psytrance / psykovsky on Salvia, that is unpleasant as hell

No music, or very very calm low volume music


Another very interesting note: there is no bodyload on Salvia if you lay down it seems, no needles on skin, no unpleasantness almost - it is very limited there

seems bodyload gets increasingly stronger if you sit up, if you listen to music


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: Toadstool5]
    #21821994 - 06/18/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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i was so confused feeling like i was in real reality and just in awe at how little i smoked and how profound the affect was.




Imagine the power of the entire 30g! That is a very powerful little bag of leaf
:wellholyshit:

I really hope someone experiments with different analogues of salvinorin A like the Salvinorin B Ethoxymethyl Ether. I would like a slightly more mild and much longer lasting salvia experience, it could theoretically work by adjusting solubility and absorption but its beyond my skills or resources.

Talking about all this salvia makes me want a joint of it :ganja:





ive been taking small pinch hits with my cousin he is laughing his ass off every hit and increasing dose to go further and further.

now im thinking about rolling a jay. how much should i put in if .3 blew me away?


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Re: Brief Salvia Trip Reports [Re: lessismore]
    #21821996 - 06/18/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And it is one hell of an expeirence laying under a blanket and now you are in a parking lot, that is one weird blanket man! (the blanket feels like stone ground/walls now)

Plz Salvia I didn't want to go to that parking lot again!

Put on a jacket if you lay down, it may get cold out there...


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