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psilocybe cubensis
    #21758167 - 06/03/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hi im new to mushroom cultivation and would like to purchase a grow kit first to get started and eventually take my own prints and cultivate using the PF Tech. I was wondering if i could grow the kit in a dark area and get fruits and if not could i move it into the light for a few hours a day without disturbing the mycelium. Or if i could place the growkit outside, i live in southern ontario but im only a few minutes from the boarder so I dont think that my climate would be too hard on psilocybe cubensis as i have heard of people cultivating them in canada out doors. Any help from an experienced grower would be great and I know someone is going to tell me not to buy a growkit but im just getting a feel for cultivating and want an easy start.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21758187 - 06/03/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Want an easy start? Try doing it yourself. Growkits aren't really reliable. It's unknown substrate done with unknown spawn. It's easier to help you if you did it yourself because you can tell us the procedure and we can critique it. It's also cheaper.

You're planning to make prints and do the pf tek yet buy a grow kit.. why not skip the middle step and do the pf tek with pre made spore syringes?


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21758192 - 06/03/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

everyone is going to tell you not to buy one. especially experienced cultivators who got to be experienced by being able to learn. you got to learn how to ride the bike man. once you do it's easy. everyone starts somewhere.

cubes grow without light but they're far superior when given adequate lighting.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21448273

and the links in my signature are good places to start. they're up to date and not filled with dated cultivation info from decades ago that wont die.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Mad Season]
    #21758199 - 06/03/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, and I'm close to the border also. Haven't been able to get them to grow outside yet.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Mad Season]
    #21758277 - 06/03/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol called it. But you probably have more experience than me and you make valid points. I guess I will just buy some spores and use the pf tek, so i geuss just read my origional question but replace growkit with pf tek. Also is there any way to steralize without a pressure cooker?


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: DigitalTorture]
    #21758297 - 06/03/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well now that i know that they will at least fruit some/what without light i can just try that but i will also try outdoor, and move some into the light and compare the results of all three thanks for the great replys


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21758321 - 06/03/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Light bulbs can be a great source of light. 6500K is the ideal spectrum.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Sockadin]
    #21758350 - 06/03/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, I didn't know that fungi responded to light bulbs, maybe I will add a fourth part to my experiment


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21759457 - 06/03/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Oh, I didn't know that fungi responded to light bulbs, maybe I will add a fourth part to my experiment




Mycelium has a circadian rhythm, you need to facilitate that with the light. 12hrs on, 12hrs off. 6500K is used because it can penetrate deeper into the substrate.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Myconin]
    #21761050 - 06/04/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Would that mean that i need to make the area light tight so it could have 12 hours of complete darkness like with cannabis?


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21761058 - 06/04/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No need for any of that, just let them get 12 hours of direct/intense lighting, then 12 hours of no direct/intense lighting.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: PussyFart]
    #21761357 - 06/04/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Light make A HUGE difference...dont skip it.
you can saerch for Evilmushroom666 brf tech.
dont skip the light.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Myconin]
    #21761504 - 06/04/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Oh, I didn't know that fungi responded to light bulbs, maybe I will add a fourth part to my experiment




Mycelium has a circadian rhythm, you need to facilitate that with the light. 12hrs on, 12hrs off. 6500K is used because it can penetrate deeper into the substrate.




Lol...  6500K is used because that is the part of the light spectrum the mushrooms best utilize.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: oontribe]
    #21761506 - 06/04/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Im planning on comparing mushrooms given light and mushrooms deprived of light. But if you think light matters that much i will give most of them light.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21761573 - 06/04/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Oh, I didn't know that fungi responded to light bulbs, maybe I will add a fourth part to my experiment




Mycelium has a circadian rhythm, you need to facilitate that with the light. 12hrs on, 12hrs off. 6500K is used because it can penetrate deeper into the substrate.




Lol...  6500K is used because that is the part of the light spectrum the mushrooms best utilize.




Brighter light = Deeper penetration of light into the sub = More energy for the myc to grow. The light is an energy source for the shrooms, and having it in the 6500K range mimics sunlight if none is available. I agree with what you say, but physics says I'm right too :twocents:


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Mad Season]
    #21769749 - 06/06/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Can I just buy some shrooms from a dealer and use those to cultivate? That way if it doesnt work i still got to trip at least.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21769756 - 06/06/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nope they're dried out. The tissue is dead and if they dried correctly in a food dehydrator at 160f the spore viability will nearly 0


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Mad Season]
    #21769768 - 06/06/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Want an easy start? Try doing it yourself. Growkits aren't really reliable. It's unknown substrate done with unknown spawn. It's easier to help you if you did it yourself because you can tell us the procedure and we can critique it. It's also cheaper.

You're planning to make prints and do the pf tek yet buy a grow kit.. why not skip the middle step and do the pf tek with pre made spore syringes?




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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21770595 - 06/06/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Also is there any way to steralize without a pressure cooker?




Dude, let me save you a ton of time not making the mistakes I did:

Don't cut corners on the pressure cooker. Don't buy one from Goodwill. Don't try to get by with a little 6qt thing you borrowed from the only friend that responded to your fb post. DO invest $100 in a decent one with a pressure gauge and the correct weight.

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    #21770655 - 06/06/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: kn33b]
    #21771670 - 06/06/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If i have to spend 100$ on top of the other expenses then growing shrooms is probably not worth it atm, plus there is the chance that my mom will catch me so its not worth risking all of that money. Maybe ill grow some san pedro instead. Thanks for the help though everybody:smile:


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Mad Season]
    #21771719 - 06/06/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ive only got four grows and i can assure you bulk is easier and more rewarding ✌


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Greenmaniac]
    #21772956 - 06/07/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea I skipped pf tek cuz it kept failing. I went straight to rgs jars spawned to bulk mono tubs, imo it was a lot easier. :shrug:


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Zombi3]
    #21774466 - 06/07/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ill keep that in mind thanks


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21774944 - 06/07/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

OHHH MY GOD ..... did he say my mom mite catch me. ok that is fucking it i declare from now on anyone still living with their mom and is trying to do a grow under her nose without getting caught MUST RELINQUISH THIS INFO OFF THE BAT ....so we can decide if we want to continue wasting our time on giving u valuable advice


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: professorFATTYCAP]
    #21776529 - 06/07/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would be fruiting them somewhere else but i would have all of the supplies at my house and i would have to store it between grows.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21776670 - 06/07/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's not cool. Cube mycelium is just as illegal as the mushrooms. . .


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21777416 - 06/08/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would be preparing the jars somewhere else too. The part that i am worried about if keeping rye, vermiculite, spore syringes, prints, a bunch of mason jars, a grow light, and a brand new pressure cooker at my house.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21777428 - 06/08/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dont try and grow under your parents nose. You will get caught. its been tried by countless members. Plus its just disrespectful. Wait till you have your own place man.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Zombi3]
    #21777436 - 06/08/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wont get caught growing because im growing them somewhere else but i will have to store a bunch of rye and a brand new pressure cooker, if she finds me hiding those she will know that something is up.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21777657 - 06/08/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you are growing them somewhere else, why not store your supplies there?

Anyways, this hobby has some serious legal consequences.  Its not in the same ballpark as hiding your weed stash from your parents.  I would advise you not to involve your parents in any way, including storing supplies at their house.

And if the $100 investment is a deal breaker, then its probably not right for you.  It takes a little bit of money and research up front and a lot of patience.  But it can be very rewarding if treated with respect.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: bsfurr]
    #21778143 - 06/08/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If someone is nice enough to let me grow at their house i dont want to overstep by keeping all of my questionable stuff at their house year round until i get my own place. Anyway i already decided i will not cultivate atm, san pedro will better for me rn as i dont need all of the supplies.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: bsfurr]
    #21778148 - 06/08/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also in the future the 100$ will be worth it but i have alot of other expensive things i would like to pursue this summer and if it doesnt work than it will have been total waste of money.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: bsfurr]
    #21778175 - 06/08/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also in the future the 100$ will be worth it but i have alot of other expensive things i would like to pursue this summer. If the police find some lights, some rye and a pressure cooker i cant get in any trouble and neither can my mom, the only problem is if SHE sees that im hiding those things around the house. Pressure cookers, rye, jars and lights are not illegal.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21778344 - 06/08/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If i have to spend 100$ on top of the other expenses then growing shrooms is probably not worth it atm, plus there is the chance that my mom will catch me so its not worth risking all of that money. Maybe ill grow some san pedro instead. Thanks for the help though everybody:)




Maybe wait to start growing until you realize how small an investment $100 is...


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21778378 - 06/08/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dude, I believe San Pedro takes like a year or more to grow 12 inches.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is definitely a long term investment just to get a single trip.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: bsfurr]
    #21778388 - 06/08/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea san pedro from seed is very slow growing. Expect more like 2 years before a munchable sized cactus is ready.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #21778426 - 06/08/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh yeah for what i get in return it is very small but for THIS MOMENT RN it is not worth it. I will cultivate when I can spare that money but for RIGHT NOW it is probably not worth it.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: Zombi3]
    #21778435 - 06/08/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I will be growing from a rooted plant not a seed and you have to start somewhere right? It takes a long time but if i wait to start it will take even longer plus real mescaline is very rare unlike shrooms.


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21778494 - 06/08/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I will be growing from a rooted plant not a seed and you have to start somewhere right? It takes a long time but if i wait to start it will take even longer plus real mescaline is very rare unlike shrooms.




Fuck that shit. I was in Arizona a couple months back so I went out and found myself a Saguaro :cactuar:


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #21778500 - 06/08/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lucky, i wish i lived in Arizona!


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #21778858 - 06/08/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whether you grow from a seed or rooted plant doesn't change the fact that it only grows an inch or so per month.  Maybe even less than that.

I hear cacti are pretty resilient and require little maintenance, but you're going to be staring at that thing for the next 18-24 months just waiting for a trip.  I could grow my body weight in shrooms during that time.

And look into bridgesii.  It contains more consistent levels of mescaline.  I once cooked 18 inches of San Pedro and was disappointed.  Mescaline levels tend to vary per San Pedro cutting.

And if you live with your parents, you'll need to cook it while they're on vacation cause that shit takes literally 12-24 hours to prep and cook and cool.  Some people literally cook that shit over several days using different pots and slowly reducing it.  Its no walk in the park.


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    #21778901 - 06/08/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I will buy some cuttings and some rooted plants if i take 12" and plant 12" next year i can take 24" :wink:


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Re: psilocybe cubensis [Re: bsfurr]
    #21778908 - 06/08/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also i was planning on getting t bridgesii, san pedro is just more well known so i knew everybody understood me and also bridgesii tends to be more expensive than sp online :frown:


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    #21778982 - 06/08/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Growing from seed is hella fun though. I have thousands of seedlings and a handfull of cuttings. I love my seedlings way more.


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    #21779811 - 06/08/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ill have to try growing from seeds some day, its way less expensive. I could have a whole patch of cacti for less than the cost of a couple cuttings.


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    #21779905 - 06/08/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can get 1000 seeds of any Trichocerus species I want for $10 + taxes and shipping, comes out to less than $20 by the time it reaches my door. I get %80 germ rate. Thats 800 cacti for less than $20.........


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    #21779953 - 06/08/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I can get 1000 seeds of any Trichocerus species I want for $10 + taxes and shipping, comes out to less than $20 by the time it reaches my door. I get %80 germ rate. Thats 800 cacti for less than $20.........




source please? I've been interested in cacti since I got my Saguaro.. It would be cool to have a lot as gifts


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    #21779992 - 06/08/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

World Seed Supply. I dont order from their website though, I get from a local small time vendor who carries their products. It should be simmilarily priced on their website though.


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    #21780601 - 06/08/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thats dope, im on the fence because if i buy some cacti i can trip now and trip harder later when i harvest what i planted but if i just buy some seeds i can trip hard for a looooong time., I want to try mescaline now though.


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