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Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral?
#21757932 - 06/03/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you think raising humans for research that were created in a lab, and contained only within that lab, is a cruel and/or immoral practice?
Why or why not?
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: D.M.T] 3
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this is the most hipsterish thread i've seen in months
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: D.M.T]
#21757957 - 06/03/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love animals and shit but man humans have very complex emotions and a normal, non mentally ill person would feel terrible doing that (raising humans for testing)
I mean shit it blows my mind how powerful the brain is and how much a person accomplishes in their life... ending someones life early is erasing a future that you can't even predict... fuck what if that dude in the lab is the next steve jobs or something? You would never know...
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
#21757958 - 06/03/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
#21757966 - 06/03/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What does that even mean?
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21757972 - 06/03/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's no more or less moral than doing it to animals which is messed up. It's necessary for our survival but it's messed up.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: D.M.T]
#21757978 - 06/03/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd love to hear how someone attempts to justify this as moral thing. Who knows though, maybe they'll be able to change my mind, but it is unbelievably cruel to do that to something that is conscious, self aware, has feelings like me and you, just to be caged while actually being capable of understanding what's happening to them. When we do it to animals, at least we can pretend animals aren't as aware or have feelings like we do or blah blah, but another human? Can't see it.
The only justification I could see anyone attempt to make, is saving hundreds of thousands of people (from cancer, disease, etc.) by sacrificing a few, but even then, can you really say it's still morally acceptable to do that to somebody, just because other people will benefit? What would make the lives of the people who benefit from it more important to the ones who were tested and abused for research?
And even then, curing cancer and all disease by doing shit like that, would it really be worth it? Resources being finite, land being finite, so many things wouldn't benefit from more people, so saving more people in some ways isn't always a good thing or beneficial. I could just keep going around in loops why it is both good/bad simultaneously, but I'll just end with saying it's immoral. Justifying other people doing it when I myself wouldn't be able to do it or want to do it doesn't sit right with me, so I'll just stick with immoral.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: D.M.T] 1
#21757988 - 06/03/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Of course it's immoral. Immoral to do it to animals too.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Ihateyou]
#21757992 - 06/03/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ihateyou said: It's no more or less moral than doing it to animals which is messed up. It's necessary for our survival but it's messed up.
I disagree, overpopulation isn't necessary for survival....yeah when someone you know gets sick it sucks, but disease is necessary in some ways. We'd be able to survive with or without doing it, maybe just not as large of a population. Plus humans will inevitably go extinct at some point, so really we'd just torture something that is aware of what's happening to it for the same end result in the long run.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: psychodelia]
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Humans are superior to animals tho so I have no problem with it.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#21757996 - 06/03/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: I'd love to hear how someone attempts to justify this as moral thing. Maybe they'll be able to change my mind, but it is unbelievably cruel to do that to something that is conscious, self aware, has feelings like me and you, just to be caged while actually being capable of understanding what's happening to them. When we do it to animals, at least we can pretend animals aren't as aware or have feelings like we do or blah blah, but another human? Can't see it.
The only justification I could see anyone attempt to make, is saving hundreds of thousands of people (from cancer, disease, etc.) by sacrificing a few, but even then, can you really say it's still morally acceptable to do that to somebody, just because other people will benefit? What would make the lives of the people who benefit from it more important to the ones who were tested and abused for research?
And even then, curing cancer and all disease by doing shit like that, would it really be worth it? Resources being finite, land being finite, so many things wouldn't benefit from more people, so saving more people in some ways isn't always a good thing or beneficial. I could just keep going around in loops why it is both good/bad simultaneously, but I'll just end with saying it's immoral. Justifying other people doing it when I myself wouldn't be able to do it or want to do it doesn't sit right with me, so I'll just stick with immoral.
If you're apathetic enough to do it to animals, that's pretty fucked up and as far as I'm concerned both are helpful for our survival so people who can do that to animals should have no problem doing it to people.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Ihateyou]
#21758004 - 06/03/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't agree with doing it to animals, and in my own small ways I try not to contribute to it...I go organic meat because the animals are much better taken care of that way, at least when I can afford to. Unfortunately that's the only real way I can contribute since I have 0 power over how food is produced and telling or showing people how animals are treated so poorly whether it be for food or research....doesn't really do anything.
"When we do it to animals, at least we can pretend animals aren't as aware or have feelings like we do or blah blah, but another human? Can't see it." Hard to convey through text but that's why I said that kind of sarcastically. Sometimes when I feel a argument is imminent, I add in the argument I think people will use to my response and try to counter it before it even gets to that point, doesnt always work though lol
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21758006 - 06/03/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Humans are superior to animals tho so I have no problem with it.
Tell that to bacteria and viruses. They are thriving a lot better than humans. Remember that ever time you get a contamination during a grow.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#21758037 - 06/03/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ihateyou said: It's no more or less moral than doing it to animals which is messed up. It's necessary for our survival but it's messed up.
I disagree, overpopulation isn't necessary for survival....yeah when someone you know gets sick it sucks, but disease is necessary in some ways. We'd be able to survive with or without doing it, maybe just not as large of a population. Plus humans will inevitably go extinct at some point, so really we'd just torture something that is aware of what's happening to it for the same end result in the long run.
You're missing my point. If you can do it to an animal you can do it to a person. It would be better to experiment on people and would help us make more progress in science. The only difference between doing this to people and animals is it's harder to be apathetic to humans.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Ihateyou]
#21758053 - 06/03/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ohhhh, but that still was part of my point, I personally couldn't do it to animals, and wish people in general didn't. It's not that I'm apathetic, I just realized a long time ago how powerless I am about any of it, and how little a difference I would make, even if I dedicated my life to changing it.
So I just try not to contribute to the things I disagree with, and that's about the only difference I can make.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#21758062 - 06/03/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are you against doing it to all animals? I totally see where you are coming from but I personally have never viewed testings done on vermin species as cruel
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21758084 - 06/03/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I really don't know to be honest, I'd love to be that diehard hippy and say all animals are equal and it's cruel to do it to anything that's alive, but in the same sense I realize my own bias towards certain animals. Like snakes, fuck em, do whatever you want....but dogs?
I don't want to say it's "cruel" to do it to things such as rats, but I also don't want to say it's right, but at the same time, rats will almost definitely outlive us with or without testing on them, so are we making a difference, or are we just torturing animals for a future that is inevitable to the human species with or without it.
I guess I'll have to say no I'm not against doing it to all animals or else I'd be a hypocrite in some ways, but I still wish it wasn't needed and I can't say I exactly like it because I can never think about something being done to something without thinking about what it would be like if I was that thing/person.
Plus I put myself in the position of what if I had a kid or something, and that kid got cancer, and they cured my kid of that cancer...could I really frown upon the testing they did on animals for the drugs they used to treat my childs cancer? Or would I just be selfish since I wouldn't care solely because it was my child that those test ended up saving? I really don't know lol I'd love to be on one side of it, but I understand the other side at the same time, so I guess I'll have to say no I'm not against all animals or I'd be a hypocrite.
I guess it's natural to care about your own species more then others, but are we objectively more important then other animals, or do we just feel like we are, the answer to that is something we'll probably never know, but important to figure out whether it is objectively right or wrong. If we are more important, nothing wrong with it. But if we only feel more important, then it may be wrong, but our own human bias makes us feel like it isn't.
I do personally think everything truly is equal and we only feel more important then everything else, since everything from an ant's accomplishments to a humans will have the exact same relevance in a universe the size of this, regardless of how much research we do, how many people we save, it will all be lost forever with no trace of us ever existing at some point... it will undoubtedly, be totally irrelevant no matter what we do in this reality as time passes. But I benefit from that testing and I only experience my own life so of course I feel more important then other forms of life that I can't relate to so I have no choice but to be biased about it.
Just reread this and so sorry I went off on a rant haha, but I've actually thought about this shit a lot before so I wanted to make my thoughts on it as understandable as I could, probably ended up making it more confusing though haha
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Shroomopotamus said: this is the most hipsterish thread i've seen in months
Yes, I'm an alien asking about raising humans in labs for research purposes. It's funny. Ha ha. What's your opinion though?
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Bitter Cactus said: Humans are superior to animals tho so I have no problem with it.
Thank you for an honest answer. I suspected this was the case.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Gottaloveacid] 2
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Gottaloveacid said: fuck what if that dude in the lab is the next steve jobs or something? You would never know...
Then we should definitely kill it and get it over with.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: propensity]
#21758169 - 06/03/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nothing wrong with it unless i'm or someone I care about is the test subject
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Patlal]
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labs go through crops of test subjects, mice rats, pigeons, goats , cats, dogs, sheep, all the time. at the end of a lot of trial runs with a batch of subjects, they are euthanized. lets some one decides to take some home or out to a farm or something.
so i mean you'd need to either have a super low value of human lives or a really specific need for human test subjects, because what happens to these people when the tests are accomplished? do we euthanize them or do we pay to make like nursing homes of test subjects?
its really a more complex question than just a yes or no answer.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Salomon]
#21758232 - 06/03/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Salomon said: labs go through crops of test subjects, mice rats, pigeons, goats , cats, dogs, sheep, all the time. at the end of a lot of trial runs with a batch of subjects, they are euthanized. lets some one decides to take some home or out to a farm or something.
so i mean you'd need to either have a super low value of human lives or a really specific need for human test subjects, because what happens to these people when the tests are accomplished? do we euthanize them or do we pay to make like nursing homes of test subjects?
its really a more complex question than just a yes or no answer.
You would HAVE to euthanize them. Otherwise it would be considered torture in every stretch of the universe.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21758239 - 06/03/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, they are born and raised in the lab, and will never that lab. When the research is done they will be euthanized.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Salomon]
#21758256 - 06/03/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Salomon said: its really a more complex question than just a yes or no answer.
I should of just said this, basically sums up everything I was trying to say but in such a simple way
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Gottaloveacid] 2
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ok so that means we'd be essentially isolating portions of the population to be murdered just because they happen to fit the targeted genetic class for a certain test. which is to say that we're okay with killing people who are forced into a very clinical environment for life till de decide they're too fucked to live any more.
neat, so what qualifies research to be applied on one of these human lab rats? do we breed like 50 for each new drug we synth to just dose the herd and see what happens?
once you've established that you're cool with killing humans for a cause, you're treading on the territory of the death penalty and wars, not very stable waters.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Salomon]
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I do not think we should use humans as test subjects under any circumstance, however you must understand that you cannot subject people to chemical testing which can and probably will 99 times out of 100 cause permenate harm of sorts. They don't want to suffer their entire lives because they just happened to be born in a testing lab... the point of euthanization is to end suffering. If the subject is mentally able to make the choice, they should. But if you damage one of these "test humans" to the point where they can't talk or whatever, they should be euthanize.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: D.M.T]
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D.M.T said: Yes, they are born and raised in the lab, and will never that lab. When the research is done they will be euthanized.
But are they born, or created? If its the latter, who would care? No one. That's who.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: TopPmz]
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That is like saying no one would care if someone was shot that you never knew... lots of people cry and shit when they hear about people getting shot. It is deeply emotional and mentally stable humans are wired to have that sort of empathy towards others.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: TopPmz]
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Alright, truth is, you can't do that.
But
Can you imagine the speed of medical advancements if we tested shit directly on humans without caring? New meds would be approved several years earlier than with the current process. Many people would be healed and survive.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Ihateyou]
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Ihateyou said: It's no more or less moral than doing it to animals
Bullshit. I suppose you're a vegan, too.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: zappaisgod]
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Ihateyou said: It's no more or less moral than doing it to animals
Bullshit. I suppose you're a vegan, too.
What the fuck kind of response is that? How did you even come up with that question?
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: zappaisgod]
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Bullshit. I suppose you're a vegan, too.
Save the attacks for a minute. I want to know your thoughts on this subject, zappaisgod.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Ihateyou]
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Do you or do you not eat meat and are you or are you not a cannibal? There is a distinction between how we treat human and non-human animals.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: D.M.T]
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thats what prisons are for. There's plenty of people here to practice on. Its not necessary to raise any more.
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Bullshit. I suppose you're a vegan, too.
Save the attacks for a minute. I want to know your thoughts on this subject, zappaisgod.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: zappaisgod]
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The question to ask is - if you were forced to, would you rather eat animal meat or human meat. I guarantee you will eat the animal meat, which shows you value humans more than animals.
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Well yes. Imma gone eat some right neow.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: D.M.T]
#21758491 - 06/03/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: Do you think raising humans for research that were created in a lab, and contained only within that lab, is a cruel and/or immoral practice?
Why or why not?
Not. For science. for progress for fighting disease It's a tube. It'll never see the light of day and if it does "moral laws" would never allow it to get concious, be it keeping it induced or never getting to that stage.
Raise it for food 
To be more precise: in-vitrofertilisation (IVF), intracytoplasmatic sperm-injection, pre-implantatgenetical diagnostics, the use of intraception & contracption, the on purpose destruction of embryos, embryoreductions and the freezing of embryos.
Are not on my moral compass.
Edited by Beanhead (06/03/15 06:17 PM)
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21758494 - 06/03/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just as a point of interest I have seen human meat in an anatomy class. It is fucking disgusting. The fat distribution is very different from the animals we use for food. We are more like geese than cows and pigs in that regard. A lot of yellow subcutaneous fat and very little marbling in the muscle mass.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: D.M.T]
#21758498 - 06/03/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: Do you think raising humans for research that were created in a lab, and contained only within that lab, is a cruel and/or immoral practice?
Why or why not?
No. I think we should raise severely retarded human adults in order to practice modern day medicine on them. It's only right, I mean, they arn't rational creatures, so they have no moral rights correct?
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21758500 - 06/03/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its becoming relatively rare to do lethality tests with animals nowadays. For drugs approved in the U.S., human trials are needed. Since human trials follow the old adage of "start at a low dose and go from there", raising humans for research probably wouldn't provide a whole lot of information.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21758504 - 06/03/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Just as a point of interest I have seen human meat in an anatomy class. It is fucking disgusting. The fat distribution is very different from the animals we use for food. We are more like geese than cows and pigs in that regard. A lot of yellow subcutaneous fat and very little marbling in the muscle mass.
That is very interesting. (not to sound creepy )
Maybe he was just badly fed though.
I've seen some nasty, smelly pig tongues but also quality meat. Also meat where it's all white.
Yellow fat sounds nasty though
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21758505 - 06/03/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ive never tasted human meat before so I cant say. It could be super delicious and thats why they're so forbidden to eat. Maybe once you taste them you'll never eat anything else. i guess they smell like hot dogs
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21758508 - 06/03/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Do you or do you not eat meat and are you or are you not a cannibal? There is a distinction between how we treat human and non-human animals.
I understand the question but what does that have to do with my response to op? The only thing that makes us treat humans different than animals is that it's harder not to empathize with humans so saying that performing research on human clones is immoral is a form of bias. Humans and animals have the ability to feel pain.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: D.M.T] 1
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Shroomopotamus said: this is the most hipsterish thread i've seen in months
Yes, I'm an alien asking about raising humans in labs for research purposes. It's funny. Ha ha. What's your opinion though?
Well... What color of people are we talkin' about?
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: TheMovement]
#21758518 - 06/03/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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TheMovement said:
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D.M.T said: Do you think raising humans for research that were created in a lab, and contained only within that lab, is a cruel and/or immoral practice?
Why or why not?
No. I think we should raise severely retarded human adults in order to practice modern day medicine on them. It's only right, I mean, they arn't rational creatures, so they have no moral rights correct?
No, they have less intelligence then the general population that's why they are retards.
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badchad said: Its becoming relatively rare to do lethality tests with animals nowadays. For drugs approved in the U.S., human trials are needed. Since human trials follow the old adage of "start at a low dose and go from there", raising humans for research probably wouldn't provide a whole lot of information.
This.
Comparing oranges to apples is bad science.
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Beanhead] 3
#21758537 - 06/03/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the OP is already doing this and just wants to know what humans think about this
Dudes obviously not human if he has to ask a question like this
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Re: Is raising humans strictly for research cruel and immoral? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
#21758540 - 06/03/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomopotamus said:
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D.M.T said:
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Shroomopotamus said: this is the most hipsterish thread i've seen in months
Yes, I'm an alien asking about raising humans in labs for research purposes. It's funny. Ha ha. What's your opinion though?
Well... What color of people are we talkin' about?
Like the great Henry Ford once said, 'you can have any color you like as long as it's black'
Except they might have to be white because that can't be considered racist.
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