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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TheSwollenShroom]
    #21783572 - 06/09/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Can the pineal gland be activated without the use of DMT? According to the website I read, it says it will only happen once in a life time, which most likely occurs at death for most people. But can this "third eye" stay completely opened without the chemical DMT? Or is it just something we need to experience to thrive forward in the current dimension of life we see?




Well that wouldn't make sense. If you believe DMT is responsible for opening the third eye, then it wouldn't stay open without DMT. At least not in the same, powerful way. The lungs have the most enzymes out of anywhere in the body to move DMT into the bloodstream. When DMT is available, the brain treats it as a high priority and redirects all relevant resources toward its metabolism, allowing effects to be felt within seconds. You couldn't mimic the intensity of a DMT breakthrough without it going through your lungs. Endogenously produced DMT is made in very small amounts over a much longer period of time by amino acids we get through our diets. There's no proof that it's released in mass at death, but I do think it's involved in dreaming. Anyway, because the brain uses the DMT so immediately, there's not much ability to keep the eye open or naturally generate an experience like that without inhaling another source of DMT.


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: Icon]
    #21783598 - 06/09/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think that you only get one go at the opening the pineal gland. This thread has inspired me to take meditation to the next level. Making an

appointment to go to a float tank, it's about an hour away but I am pretty sure it will be worth it. It's only $35 for and hour and a half, so I think that

it will help get to another realm of meditation and those who go into their own minds deep enough I believe can have access to their third eye.


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21785336 - 06/09/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Woah, brother... learn to chew before you swallow. Took me a while to figure that out. It would probably be of greater value to begin the process of opening the heart instead of any other energy center. Things may get more odd for you than they already are otherwise.


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: Soul-Shine]
    #21785680 - 06/09/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Woah, brother... learn to chew before you swallow. Took me a while to figure that out. It would probably be of greater value to begin the process of opening the heart instead of any other energy center. Things may get more odd for you than they already are otherwise.





huh?


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TheSwollenShroom]
    #21786096 - 06/09/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Can the pineal gland be activated without the use of DMT? According to the website I read, it says it will only happen once in a life time, which most likely occurs at death for most people. But can this "third eye" stay completely opened without the chemical DMT? Or is it just something we need to experience to thrive forward in the current dimension of life we see?




Read the link I posted above. Metatonin is dmt and the pineal gland natural produces it. It is near impossible to detect in the blood because of MAO's.


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: insanemike]
    #21786224 - 06/09/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

a good tip with meditation is not expecting anything, wanting something brings stress and makes it harder to let go

don't meditate to see god

meditate to be yourself


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TheSwollenShroom]
    #21786360 - 06/10/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I want to try meditation but don't know where to start. You all have such incredibly intelligent responses and this is why I love this place.

I have a goal to continue Arnold Schwarzzeneggers legacy, I truly believe this. To be one of the greatest aesthetic bodybuilders ever. I know it's deep within me but don't know how to achieve it, my anxiety hinders me a lot. I'm not trying to be sound cocky please don't take it as an arrogant statement.

I have so much fear and doubt that I HAVE BEEN successfully pushing past but slowly and not in the way I want.  (If I'm not making sense im sorry this is just a bit difficult to elaborate on).

I refuse to take medication as I only have anxiety and I know this can be beaten without harmful meds.

I believe throughly in the law of attraction, I have a fresh batch of DMT, and after watching Joe rogan and Jim Carey's speeches upon this subject, I believe it may be the way to some (not all) answers.

Be back later for more!



I detailed some ways to get started in my post. Like I said, I highly reccoemnd it. Look into guided meditations by Sam harris on his website. Between that an eckhart tolle's "power of now"

Also, I hate to break it to you. But modern bodybuilding is a fucking disgusting joke. Arnold and bodybuilders of his age looked amazing and often were faily atheltic. But to take bodybuilding seriously, make it your life, and actually succeed and profit in the modern age basically requires heavy insulin and GH use. I dont like to come off as a know it all, but I personally have taken an honest look at ronnie coleman etc. and see nothing a but biology experiement of abnormal calorie intake, indigestion and a bloated stomach from too much HGH

That being said, if you want to stay sustiainable and healthy for life, you could do sprinting, boxing, gymnastics. There are quite a lot of sports that maintian size and aethetics while also touching on atheletcism, actual "fitness" (arnold was fit but modern BBers are not. 290 lbs is not healthy at all), as well as discipline


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21786911 - 06/10/15 04:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TrippieHunter said:
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Soul-Shine said:
Woah, brother... learn to chew before you swallow. Took me a while to figure that out. It would probably be of greater value to begin the process of opening the heart instead of any other energy center. Things may get more odd for you than they already are otherwise.





huh?



Pardon, but I'm perplexed as to where the confusion lay (or lie [I'm not too sure]).

The OP was asking about the pineal gland with making reference to the DMT theory. Different faith systems, in my opinion, have their own unique ways of describing similar states of being. For this example let's look at the eastern model of the chakra system since it is quite easy to visualize - each energy center is designated a colour. There are seven "main" points. Here are the sanskrit names, body (energy) locations and prospective synonymous colour: Muladhara is the root (red), Svadhishthana is the navel (orange), Manipura is the solar plexus (yellow), Anahata is the heart (green/pink), Vishudda is the throat (blue), Ajna is purportedly the pineal gland i.e. third eye (indigo) and Sahasrara is the crown at the topmost part of the head (violet). *Note that there may be hundreds of other chakras, these are just the ones people tend to focus their attention to.

People who are overly concerned with the real world i.e. physical/emotional security, mortality, finances etc. tend to have personalities fed, for lack of a more accurate word, by one of the bottom three chakras. With this said please let me explain why, in my opinion, one should not focus on the Ajna point without having worked on the other centers first. *The following is purely speculative due to its lack of tangible evidence; however, it is observable within yourself if you wish to go forward.

Focusing solely on the sixth point can bring about much mental confusion and perhaps even trigger such symptoms of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. If by chance you do open the center and don't end up in the looney toons bin, be prepared to hear and see things you would not have done so before. And I'm not too sure how literal this is either. It isn't like putting on a pair of glasses and being able to see ghouls everywhere (although I do not discount it). You simply become more receptive to your own self, intuition and creative potential in addition to developing the skill to "read" people more efficiently than previously. Maybe the latter is due to a subconsciously increased attention to body language. It is estimated to be 55% of our communication after all.

So to answer your question in a more swift fashion - it is good to stay grounded and work your way up the spine (check out kundalini). It seems that the negative attributes are circumvented when one opens the heart, lives compassion for its own sake and recognises the all pervasive love that's within the big ol' chain link we call humanity.

Here's a link to an older thread about "what a shaman sees in a mental hospital". It may help specify your question(s) after reading. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20153275#20153275

And to answer a question by the OP... Yes, you do not need to constantly smoke DMT to keep the center open. You probably wouldn't want to do that though. Think of it like training a muscle. You weren't born being able to lift 100 pounds. After so many repetitions of smaller weight, one eventually builds up the strength. So is the same with your energy body. Practice starting at the root and going all the way up to the crown - opening and closing them. Visualising the colour at the location has been and continues to be a huge help for myself. And don't be too proud to ask the universe/god/yourself/any-other-silly-word-to-throw-in-here for assistance. Even if it's placebo, a self fulfilling intention is a very powerful thing. :peace:


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: topdog82]
    #21787288 - 06/10/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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topdog82 said:
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TheSwollenShroom said:
I want to try meditation but don't know where to start. You all have such incredibly intelligent responses and this is why I love this place.

I have a goal to continue Arnold Schwarzzeneggers legacy, I truly believe this. To be one of the greatest aesthetic bodybuilders ever. I know it's deep within me but don't know how to achieve it, my anxiety hinders me a lot. I'm not trying to be sound cocky please don't take it as an arrogant statement.

I have so much fear and doubt that I HAVE BEEN successfully pushing past but slowly and not in the way I want.  (If I'm not making sense im sorry this is just a bit difficult to elaborate on).

I refuse to take medication as I only have anxiety and I know this can be beaten without harmful meds.

I believe throughly in the law of attraction, I have a fresh batch of DMT, and after watching Joe rogan and Jim Carey's speeches upon this subject, I believe it may be the way to some (not all) answers.

Be back later for more!



I detailed some ways to get started in my post. Like I said, I highly reccoemnd it. Look into guided meditations by Sam harris on his website. Between that an eckhart tolle's "power of now"

Also, I hate to break it to you. But modern bodybuilding is a fucking disgusting joke. Arnold and bodybuilders of his age looked amazing and often were faily atheltic. But to take bodybuilding seriously, make it your life, and actually succeed and profit in the modern age basically requires heavy insulin and GH use. I dont like to come off as a know it all, but I personally have taken an honest look at ronnie coleman etc. and see nothing a but biology experiement of abnormal calorie intake, indigestion and a bloated stomach from too much HGH

That being said, if you want to stay sustiainable and healthy for life, you could do sprinting, boxing, gymnastics. There are quite a lot of sports that maintian size and aethetics while also touching on atheletcism, actual "fitness" (arnold was fit but modern BBers are not. 290 lbs is not healthy at all), as well as discipline





Ah I understand your point but my goal is to continue Arnold's legacy, not these bloated fat idiots today. I want to bring the original aesthetics back to bodybuilding. My weight goal is 220 im 5'11 so that's not unreasonable. But I know what you mean for sure, I want to be aesthetically fit, not monstrously huge. Arnold's size is the max I would want to be.


Me currently:


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: Soul-Shine]
    #21787299 - 06/10/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TrippieHunter said:
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Soul-Shine said:
Woah, brother... learn to chew before you swallow. Took me a while to figure that out. It would probably be of greater value to begin the process of opening the heart instead of any other energy center. Things may get more odd for you than they already are otherwise.





huh?



Pardon, but I'm perplexed as to where the confusion lay (or lie [I'm not too sure]).

The OP was asking about the pineal gland with making reference to the DMT theory. Different faith systems, in my opinion, have their own unique ways of describing similar states of being. For this example let's look at the eastern model of the chakra system since it is quite easy to visualize - each energy center is designated a colour. There are seven "main" points. Here are the sanskrit names, body (energy) locations and prospective synonymous colour: Muladhara is the root (red), Svadhishthana is the navel (orange), Manipura is the solar plexus (yellow), Anahata is the heart (green/pink), Vishudda is the throat (blue), Ajna is purportedly the pineal gland i.e. third eye (indigo) and Sahasrara is the crown at the topmost part of the head (violet). *Note that there may be hundreds of other chakras, these are just the ones people tend to focus their attention to.

People who are overly concerned with the real world i.e. physical/emotional security, mortality, finances etc. tend to have personalities fed, for lack of a more accurate word, by one of the bottom three chakras. With this said please let me explain why, in my opinion, one should not focus on the Ajna point without having worked on the other centers first. *The following is purely speculative due to its lack of tangible evidence; however, it is observable within yourself if you wish to go forward.

Focusing solely on the sixth point can bring about much mental confusion and perhaps even trigger such symptoms of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. If by chance you do open the center and don't end up in the looney toons bin, be prepared to hear and see things you would not have done so before. And I'm not too sure how literal this is either. It isn't like putting on a pair of glasses and being able to see ghouls everywhere (although I do not discount it). You simply become more receptive to your own self, intuition and creative potential in addition to developing the skill to "read" people more efficiently than previously. Maybe the latter is due to a subconsciously increased attention to body language. It is estimated to be 55% of our communication after all.

So to answer your question in a more swift fashion - it is good to stay grounded and work your way up the spine (check out kundalini). It seems that the negative attributes are circumvented when one opens the heart, lives compassion for its own sake and recognises the all pervasive love that's within the big ol' chain link we call humanity.

Here's a link to an older thread about "what a shaman sees in a mental hospital". It may help specify your question(s) after reading. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20153275#20153275

And to answer a question by the OP... Yes, you do not need to constantly smoke DMT to keep the center open. You probably wouldn't want to do that though. Think of it like training a muscle. You weren't born being able to lift 100 pounds. After so many repetitions of smaller weight, one eventually builds up the strength. So is the same with your energy body. Practice starting at the root and going all the way up to the crown - opening and closing them. Visualising the colour at the location has been and continues to be a huge help for myself. And don't be too proud to ask the universe/god/yourself/any-other-silly-word-to-throw-in-here for assistance. Even if it's placebo, a self fulfilling intention is a very powerful thing. :peace:




I always ask God/the universe for help and never receive. I don't mean to sound ignorant here, but I honesty have no idea where to even start by "opening the heart" "freeing my mind". I don't even think I know how to do that, it just sounds so confusing and I know it's possible and I've been searching how to for a while. I've read tons of articles and books on meditation, I just don't know if I'm doing it right, uncertainty is always within.

Another question: could a DMT experience change your life  in a positive way (the smoking kind)


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TheSwollenShroom] * 2
    #21787455 - 06/10/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I always ask God/the universe for help and never receive. I don't mean to sound ignorant here, but I honesty have no idea where to even start by "opening the heart" "freeing my mind". I don't even think I know how to do that, it just sounds so confusing and I know it's possible and I've been searching how to for a while. I've read tons of articles and books on meditation, I just don't know if I'm doing it right, uncertainty is always within.

Another question: could a DMT experience change your life  in a positive way (the smoking kind)




I think many people are pursuing those same goals but also have no idea where to start so they mimic people and behaviors that are advertised as paths to enlightenment or such. I've been searching for a while too and lately I've been getting the feeling that I'm missing the point entirely. I think most of the time people practice meditation, take drugs, do yoga, follow diets, etc. as a band-aid treatment to some insecurities. While none of those practices are foolish or invaluable alone, I think people mistake using them as a crutch. As someone said a few posts up, it's best just to be yourself, be vulnerable. Trying too hard to be open or be free actually enslaves you to ego-inflating routines, constantly trying to prove to yourself and others how free you are. I think true freedom in the heart and mind is rather rare and can't be forced, like a laugh.

Sure, DMT could change your life in a positive way. To me, one of the positive effects is reinforcement of my intuition. For a moment, you may even feel that you are god incarnate, because that's how pure our natural, untrained spirits are. It's pretty invigorating and I can't imagine how long it would have taken for me to find that self-assurance through meditation, therapy, or some other practice. Psychedelics are no doubt powerful catalysts in the search, but they can only open the door and show you the way. Still takes a lot of will and effort to balance your life and make changes.


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TheSwollenShroom]
    #21787485 - 06/10/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheSwollenShroom said:
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topdog82 said:
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TheSwollenShroom said:
I want to try meditation but don't know where to start. You all have such incredibly intelligent responses and this is why I love this place.

I have a goal to continue Arnold Schwarzzeneggers legacy, I truly believe this. To be one of the greatest aesthetic bodybuilders ever. I know it's deep within me but don't know how to achieve it, my anxiety hinders me a lot. I'm not trying to be sound cocky please don't take it as an arrogant statement.

I have so much fear and doubt that I HAVE BEEN successfully pushing past but slowly and not in the way I want.  (If I'm not making sense im sorry this is just a bit difficult to elaborate on).

I refuse to take medication as I only have anxiety and I know this can be beaten without harmful meds.

I believe throughly in the law of attraction, I have a fresh batch of DMT, and after watching Joe rogan and Jim Carey's speeches upon this subject, I believe it may be the way to some (not all) answers.

Be back later for more!



I detailed some ways to get started in my post. Like I said, I highly reccoemnd it. Look into guided meditations by Sam harris on his website. Between that an eckhart tolle's "power of now"

Also, I hate to break it to you. But modern bodybuilding is a fucking disgusting joke. Arnold and bodybuilders of his age looked amazing and often were faily atheltic. But to take bodybuilding seriously, make it your life, and actually succeed and profit in the modern age basically requires heavy insulin and GH use. I dont like to come off as a know it all, but I personally have taken an honest look at ronnie coleman etc. and see nothing a but biology experiement of abnormal calorie intake, indigestion and a bloated stomach from too much HGH

That being said, if you want to stay sustiainable and healthy for life, you could do sprinting, boxing, gymnastics. There are quite a lot of sports that maintian size and aethetics while also touching on atheletcism, actual "fitness" (arnold was fit but modern BBers are not. 290 lbs is not healthy at all), as well as discipline





Ah I understand your point but my goal is to continue Arnold's legacy, not these bloated fat idiots today. I want to bring the original aesthetics back to bodybuilding. My weight goal is 220 im 5'11 so that's not unreasonable. But I know what you mean for sure, I want to be aesthetically fit, not monstrously huge. Arnold's size is the max I would want to be.


Me currently:



impressive :thumbup:

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Re: Pineal gland [Re: Icon]
    #21787498 - 06/10/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:
There are lots of programs available

the buddhist program
the jesus program
the nihilist program
the philosopher program
the science & evolution program

chose one, or chose none

if you chose none, you might be more free to make your own lens of reality


if you want to change with psychedelics I would recommend one that is not as intense as DMT, but one that is longer lasting

all psychedelics can be equally intense and equally life changing it seems...


set,setting,dose you should know what that means
look up your drug on erowid

plan your trip, focus on what you want to heal in your mind and life

be a worthy student and it will be rewarding, a worthy student listens to what is inside themselves without overanalyzing


it is not the drug that counts, it is the set,setting,dose that makes a difference


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: lessismore]
    #21787589 - 06/10/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A guy here gave some really good advice. Do NOT take psychedelics like DMT lightly

Kundalini awakening can destroy your life if you are not careful

You must work your way up the chakras like he said.... energy imbalances can hurt like hell, and even destroy lives completely/make you a cribling


The best way to work your way up is to use a weaker psychedelic first, then work your way up with dose as you become familiar with them.

Most people get to do 100 trips before they take a high dose LSD i.e. - or before they do DMT


There is nothing to fear, if you don't rush into things, but if you just think you can just smoke DMT every week and watch Joe Rogan, think again
You will lose connection to this reality likely

Psychedelics must be respected greatly, if you want to come back a whole human again.


That means moderation, and working your way up in dosage, not just taking the strongest psychedelic first in highest dosage..


LSD can be very healing if you work your way up, I can personally recommend that one, it is also long lasting (10-12 hr trip) so it will teach you a lot.
It is not about getting there fastest, but about learning, you want to learn if you want to heal.


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: lessismore]
    #21787860 - 06/10/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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lessismore said:
A guy here gave some really good advice. Do NOT take psychedelics like DMT lightly

Kundalini awakening can destroy your life if you are not careful

You must work your way up the chakras like he said.... energy imbalances can hurt like hell, and even destroy lives completely/make you a cribling


The best way to work your way up is to use a weaker psychedelic first, then work your way up with dose as you become familiar with them.

Most people get to do 100 trips before they take a high dose LSD i.e. - or before they do DMT


There is nothing to fear, if you don't rush into things, but if you just think you can just smoke DMT every week and watch Joe Rogan, think again
You will lose connection to this reality likely

Psychedelics must be respected greatly, if you want to come back a whole human again.


That means moderation, and working your way up in dosage, not just taking the strongest psychedelic first in highest dosage..


LSD can be very healing if you work your way up, I can personally recommend that one, it is also long lasting (10-12 hr trip) so it will teach you a lot.
It is not about getting there fastest, but about learning, you want to learn if you want to heal.





I have already done shrooms quite a few times, but the only dosages I went up to were 3.5. I have never done lsd as I am terrified to with all of the horror stories. Doesn't seem to be any really super bad trips with DMT that I have read about at least.

Also I never stated I wanted to smoke DMT every week, it's something I want to try.

How does one work there way up the chakra color chart?


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TheSwollenShroom]
    #21787899 - 06/10/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You should not be focusing on chakras or kundalini at all, that's new age religion (not that it is bad, but if you do it wrong it can give you problems...)

So don't focus on that.

It is just important not to use a drug that activates the higher chakras before you got your lower balanced.

You cannot just skip a few steps in your spiritual evolution

Some drugs , like ayahuasca and DMT I personally believe are so intense that I would not recommend them to first timers, while mushrooms and LSD are much less intense

they can blow all your energy centers in your body if you just take a high dose first time - bad thing

DMT is so intense there will be no room, at least there will be that on LSD or mushrooms..


If you are familiar with psychedelics, DMT may work... - just not a good beginner drug I think


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: lessismore]
    #21788686 - 06/10/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I always ask God/the universe for help and never receive. I don't mean to sound ignorant here, but I honesty have no idea where to even start by "opening the heart" "freeing my mind". I don't even think I know how to do that, it just sounds so confusing and I know it's possible and I've been searching how to for a while. I've read tons of articles and books on meditation, I just don't know if I'm doing it right, uncertainty is always within.

Another question: could a DMT experience change your life  in a positive way (the smoking kind)




I'd bet you do "receive" all the time. You mentioned the law of attraction in an earlier post. Although I do not think that to be the penultimate how-to guide on life, it does have some valuable ideas. One such idea is the notion of synchronistic events. You become more perceptive to these once you get an idea of what to look for, and that is only found through experience. Sometimes an unexpected conversation with a stranger or even the look of a tree can trigger something in you that you might have never expected otherwise. Many people who pray expect a big fireworks show. Life is more subtle than that.

As for ways to practice opening the heart... try looking at things around you and say "I love you" in your head and direct that towards the object. Same thing with people you pass by on the street. It sounds corny, but I swear that it will change the connectivity you feel with the world around you. Another method is through a one syllable mantra. Repeat "huuuuuummmm" (pronounced hue/hugh) for 20 minutes a day. "Hum" as in hum-an. I feel something around the heart center after only a few recitations. Learned this trick from a stranger in the desert and by golly it's a good one (at least in my experience).

Definitely heed lessismore's advice. He's right on target imho. And please do not be afraid of LSD. Just get yourself a test kit - the peace of mind will be worth it. Plus the brain cells you keep from not taking a RC will thank you later on. Still not convinced... start growing some cacti :biggrin:


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TheSwollenShroom]
    #21788920 - 06/10/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When I first started out trying to meditate I can remember I couldn't keep my eyes shut for more than a few seconds, they would be all over the place and I couldn't stand it, well only about a week or so later I began to keep my eyes closed for 10 or so minutes, eventually leading to easy 20 and 30 minute sessions, what you can experience in meditation is calmness, peace and a very deep state of relaxation. I've had euphoria/love feeling in meditation as well combined with music, it's really nice when certain hertz music/sounds hits your heart chakra it lights right up with good lovey feelings, I use to meditate 20 min a day every day for a little while then I started to every other day, this went on for about 2-3 months then I eventually just stopped meditating, my mind feels so good and fresh, I don't really ever seek meditation anymore as I feel GOOD. It definitely helped me get to this point though and I'm sure i'll be meditating sometime soon again :mushroom2:


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In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
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Different ways in which The
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Re: Pineal gland [Re: Soul-Shine]
    #21791754 - 06/11/15 04:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I always ask God/the universe for help and never receive. I don't mean to sound ignorant here, but I honesty have no idea where to even start by "opening the heart" "freeing my mind". I don't even think I know how to do that, it just sounds so confusing and I know it's possible and I've been searching how to for a while. I've read tons of articles and books on meditation, I just don't know if I'm doing it right, uncertainty is always within.

Another question: could a DMT experience change your life  in a positive way (the smoking kind)




I'd bet you do "receive" all the time. You mentioned the law of attraction in an earlier post. Although I do not think that to be the penultimate how-to guide on life, it does have some valuable ideas. One such idea is the notion of synchronistic events. You become more perceptive to these once you get an idea of what to look for, and that is only found through experience. Sometimes an unexpected conversation with a stranger or even the look of a tree can trigger something in you that you might have never expected otherwise. Many people who pray expect a big fireworks show. Life is more subtle than that.

As for ways to practice opening the heart... try looking at things around you and say "I love you" in your head and direct that towards the object. Same thing with people you pass by on the street. It sounds corny, but I swear that it will change the connectivity you feel with the world around you. Another method is through a one syllable mantra. Repeat "huuuuuummmm" (pronounced hue/hugh) for 20 minutes a day. "Hum" as in hum-an. I feel something around the heart center after only a few recitations. Learned this trick from a stranger in the desert and by golly it's a good one (at least in my experience).

Definitely heed lessismore's advice. He's right on target imho. And please do not be afraid of LSD. Just get yourself a test kit - the peace of mind will be worth it. Plus the brain cells you keep from not taking a RC will thank you later on. Still not convinced... start growing some cacti :biggrin:




Do you think it means "signs" when you say synchronistic events? I see a lot of things/signs that I feel are directing me in life positively. For example (this may sound corny but it's what I perceive) I said I want to bring aesthetics back to bodybuilding for a long time(years). Well Arnold decided to finally come out on stage and manifest to the people how bodybuilding has lost aesthetics and it needs to be brought back. Coincidence? Maybe. Another example would be,  I've been thinking about going to Vegas for a while. All of a sudden I see all these Vegas movies on TV, Vegas this Vegas that.. Is that what you mean by synchronistic events?


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Re: Pineal gland [Re: TheSwollenShroom]
    #21791761 - 06/11/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

www.erowid.org

that's all you need

look up:
LSD
LSA
Mescaline
Psilocybin (Magic Mushrooms)
(Salvia)
(DMT)


Those are the classical psychedelics that can heal people when respected, but only if respected.

Read up on all of them.

What is SET, SETTING, DOSE, what are side effects, duration ?

Test your drug, then you can take any of these. The risk of a permatrip is the same with all of them it seems, DMT is not safer than any of them.

Most of them are a tryptamine or such, that resembles DMT in your brain, 4-ho-dmt is mushrooms iirc, so you hack your brain.

When hacking set,setting,dose is extremely important, if you want to have an intact brain afterwards - gotta know your stuff.

Happy hacking!

(and yes LSD cured my 16 year long depression , not even a sign of a negative thought since that I have noticed)


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