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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: The Doobie Dude] * 1
    #21761671 - 06/04/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

none of this bickering changes the fact that a kid died when he didn't have to.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #21761919 - 06/04/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Dead is dead, Pris. Excuses don't get these innocent people back to their families.





and whining about cops shooting stupid people doesnt keep them from getting themselves shot either



that's not the problem. the problem is rate of incident, and the fact of people like yourself ignoring this, and also making excuses for the INCIDENTS, which is not a very civilized thing to do, because in a land of laws, when someone is killed, it's looked into, and blame is found and assigned. the kid did nothing wrong. hence the killing was unjust, and hence someone is to blame and it isn't the kid.

stop making excuses for blunderer's, like is your supposed tagline.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21762394 - 06/04/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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yes, this article is stating that nbc edited the interview to better support the police narrative that the shooting was justified




and a source that opposes cops would never have a bias

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I have done work on cop's houses, and i can tell you, that they are often quick to enthusiastically show off their stash of illegal firearms, (i live in California)




you are aware that high capacity magazines and the like arent illegal for cops
in california, what would make a gun illegal for the cops there?

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and i have even had one show me gore porn on his phone of suspects that he and his cop buddies had blown away. 






did you know that doctors do the same kind of shit, in fact the majority of
people do shit similar to that, again, what's the big deal





1. i never said any source was unbiased
2.fully automatic weapons are still illegal for the cops here, and there are proposed restrictions for cops on assault rifles in general, because so many have gone missing or been "stolen"
3. whatever you say Pris, in fact, you're right.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with cops showing off their kills.
4. still waiting for you to get back to me on why school cops need grenade launchers


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21762400 - 06/04/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Will you please give one example of a civilian police force using a grenade launcher?  Because I sure haven't heard of it.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762408 - 06/04/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

using one? no.  Aquiring several surplus launchers from the DOD, yes.
in fact, i already did...at least i think i did.  i'm on my lunch and i don't have time to go back through my posts right now


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21762417 - 06/04/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

4. Mass shootings at Americans schools happen all the time. A grenade launcher is probably over kill, but if I had a kid in a school, I would want the cops to be ready for any columbine type event. I also doubt any cop would use a grenade on a student unless there was a mass shooting. Name one time a cop has ever used a frag grenade on a suspect. If there was one I would like to read about it genuinely.

Also they gave the grenade launchers back, which makes me think, they were offered equipment and took it no questions asked. Cops love equipment, new cars, new vests, new guns, new bullets, new flashlights, new anything. I doubt they turn anything down offered to them by the government.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21762424 - 06/04/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, they'll take any cool free shit they can get.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762425 - 06/04/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Will you please give one example of a civilian police force using a grenade launcher?  Because I sure haven't heard of it.




they are given grenade launchers among other military grade equipment. and SWAT teams use flashbangs so it wouldn't surprise me if they use the launchers to send those through windows on occasion.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: millzy]
    #21762427 - 06/04/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I doubt it but that would be fine.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762466 - 06/04/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea I was also thinking the grenade launcher would most likely be used for SMOKE grenades or flashbangs.

I mean if the government offered you a tank and grenade launcher and body armor and m-16s for free, would you say no?


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: millzy]
    #21762480 - 06/04/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shit like this pisses me the fuck off
:nonono:


a injured unarmed chubby teenager :gc:!


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21762493 - 06/04/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yea I was also thinking the grenade launcher would most likely be used for SMOKE grenades or flashbangs.

I mean if the government offered you a tank and grenade launcher and body armor and m-16s for free, would you say no?



Hell fuck no.  I'm going joy-riding


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762501 - 06/04/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

doubt what zappa? that they have the launchers or that they would use them in that way?

here's an LA times article about their dept. getting grenade launchers as well as other military equipment, including snow gear (:crazy2:). they did return the grenade launchers according to the article but kept the rest.

i don't have a problem with police having access to the equipment needed to keep civilians safe and put down serious threats. my problem is with how often SWAT teams are deployed, which in a vast majority of cases is unnecessary and highly dangerous. and flashbangs in particular can be lethal; they've even killed law enforcement workers from what i recall.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: millzy]
    #21762617 - 06/04/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Flash bangs are dangerous sometimes. What should the police use? Just their words? Everything they have is dangerous, if they used water balloons and teddy bears to subdue suspects they would receive even less respect than they do now.

And eventually someone would get smothered by a teddy or take a balloon to the face and inhale at the same time and drown, and then people would still bitch that they are over armed.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: millzy]
    #21762626 - 06/04/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I doubt that they use military grenade launchers for flashbangs.  They probably aren't compatible


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762659 - 06/04/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

40mm grenade launchers do not fire flash bang grenades.

they don't fire tear gas canisters either.

wait, it turns out that the M203 launcher does have Crowd Control rounds


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21762697 - 06/04/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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4. Mass shootings at Americans schools happen all the time. A grenade launcher is probably over kill, but if I had a kid in a school, I would want the cops to be ready for any columbine type event. I also doubt any cop would use a grenade on a student unless there was a mass shooting. Name one time a cop has ever used a frag grenade on a suspect. If there was one I would like to read about it genuinely.

Also they gave the grenade launchers back, which makes me think, they were offered equipment and took it no questions asked. Cops love equipment, new cars, new vests, new guns, new bullets, new flashlights, new anything. I doubt they turn anything down offered to them by the government.




:yeahthatsfunny:  can you honestly say that you can think of an appropriate time to start launching grenades on a school campus?  You think that would have helped during the columbine shooting?  Hell, i figured you guys could make a case for the MRAP, but the grenade launchers?  Lets be serious here for a second.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21762720 - 06/04/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Might as well drop a few 1 ton jdams on the school while youre at it. Cant be too sure :lol:


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21762734 - 06/04/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If we have so many extra military weapons and APC's and shit, that we can give them away to school district PD's, Then it's time to cut back on the military spending.  That shit costs money...tax money.  I want the pentagon to complain that they don't have enough shit, not that they have so much that they can't give it away fast enough

in fact, rather than totally usurp this thread, i'll go make my own right now


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21762798 - 06/04/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No.  It's time to give them to our allies.  Like the beset upon Ukraine.


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