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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Konyap]
    #21758097 - 06/03/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Totally, if mushrooms were legal murder would disappear overnight because everyone would be filled with peace and love and nothing bad would ever happen again.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: qman]
    #21758111 - 06/03/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think the world is safer with any citizens having easy access to guns and I don't think guns make people safer from criminals this is often a way to getting more people killed by suicide accident or having themselves disarmed and the weapon used against them.  I don't believe police should be armed like we do in this country.  Other countries have fewer guns and less militarized police forces and few people die these are facts I'm sure you could easily find statistics to support this however this is my personal opinion and you are free to disagree.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21758113 - 06/03/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it's true though people wouldn't freak out as much if it was an accepted part of society
their annoyance would be seen as something akin to someone who drank too much rather then someone who's lost their mind


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: refried]
    #21758120 - 06/03/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can see handguns but if you look at other countries they do some pretty barbaric s*** sometimes without guns and there are always people that will just make guns anyway if they're illegal


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: refried]
    #21758131 - 06/03/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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refried said:
I don't think the world is safer with any citizens having easy access to guns and I don't think guns make people safer from criminals this is often a way to getting more people killed by suicide accident or having themselves disarmed and the weapon used against them.  I don't believe police should be armed like we do in this country.  Other countries have fewer guns and less militarized police forces and few people die these are facts I'm sure you could easily find statistics to support this however this is my personal opinion and you are free to disagree.




We have many criminal cultures that live in the US, how do you suggest law abiding citizens protect themselves from that element?  Do you have issue with a violent criminal getting shot and killed trying to harm a innocent citizen?  I don't.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: refried]
    #21758132 - 06/03/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

facts:
murder rate per 100,000 people per year

Mexico(guns are illegal)-21.5

United States(guns are legal)-4.7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: refried]
    #21758390 - 06/03/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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refried said:
guns do kill people and I hope you don't have one because that would truly be frightening and speak volumes about the need for more gun control laws, starting with limiting police access to them and other related military equipment.




I have several but none are handheld.  You want to limit police access to guns?  That is nuts.  And as far as I know the entire outrage about surplus mi,itary equipment being sold to them is garbage.  The only complaint I have is that it is a waste of money since they never use it.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21758415 - 06/03/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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refried said:
guns do kill people and I hope you don't have one because that would truly be frightening and speak volumes about the need for more gun control laws, starting with limiting police access to them and other related military equipment.




I have several but none are handheld..








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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #21758424 - 06/03/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It is an unholy bitch to get a pistol permit here.  Meanwhile assholes get them all the time illegally


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21758950 - 06/03/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Young man on acid thought he could fly jumped out of a building.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21759031 - 06/03/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
Taser didn't work!!!





so wait.... the tool all the cop haters demand the cops need to use didnt work?

that's impossible, you guys support the use of tasers until a taser is used




If it was even used.  I smell a lot of bullshit in that story.  kind of like how the kid said "I'm going to attack you!"

:rolleyes:





and of course he wasnt wearing his glasses like gresh said so that must have
made him compliant and completely harmless, as I see it, it's quite probable
that it happened just as it's reported just as it's probable that it didnt in
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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21759078 - 06/03/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whackjob covered in blood who doesn't respond to a taser lunging at a cop.  I'd shoot him.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21759110 - 06/03/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He was dumb enough to jump out of a building. I'd shoot him.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #21759111 - 06/03/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Just cause your taser doesn't stop them that does not mean he has the right to murder him. He was UNARMED.




so what you're saying is that if someone isnt armed then there is absolutely no
way they could harm or kill a person because they're not armed, only a person
with a weapon has the ability and capacity to do harm to others

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Oh no a chubby kid is coming for me I better shoot him three times, I mean it's not like he could aim at his shoulder or legs or something because you know, these cops have no training or know where to place a billet or anything.





ah yes, the taser should have been used unless of course the taser was used and
ineffective and the gun should only be used to slightly injure because we know
that even with a slight graze from a bullet a person is completely incapacitated
just like when the taser is deployed

seems everyone can claim there was a better way and the cop in this instance
used a number of the options he had available and yet there still must have
been a better way, here's an idea, why dont you teach these cops how it's done,
show them that better way personally, train them properly to take down a
suspect without violence, show them that when they have to resort to violent
means that they need to do it exactly the way you will show them, maybe sweep
the leg and do some tiger style kung fu moves and toss the handcuffs down on
his chest at demand he put them on. I know the cops will appreciate that
because it will save countless lives, spare them the bad publicity and they can
go home and sleep at night without having a nightmare for the next few years
because they shot some kid they couldnt subdue


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21759120 - 06/03/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Whackjob covered in blood who doesn't respond to a taser lunging at a cop.  I'd shoot him.





but zappa, there's a better way, shroomism, gresh and minnisnowta are going to go
teach it to the cops so they can spot the injuries from 900 yards and treat the
wounds while giving the offender a rehabilitative lecture on inappropriate behavior


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21759172 - 06/03/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
facts:
murder rate per 100,000 people per year

Mexico(guns are illegal)-21.5

United States(guns are legal)-4.7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate






guns arent actually illegal in mexico, they are heavily restricted and damn
near impossible for a citizen to get, england is the same, there are actually
a few people in england with pistol permits, I'm sure the people that get them
are politically connected, you know, like the brother in law of he minister of
finance or the MPs daughter


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21759338 - 06/03/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Whackjob covered in blood who doesn't respond to a taser lunging at a cop.  I'd shoot him.




which is why you aren't qualified to do police work. cops are vetted and trained to react in ways that ordinary citizens wouldn't even under - especially under - the most extreme circumstances. this kid died because a cop did not do his job. and if you can't see that then you don't understand the issue.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: millzy] * 1
    #21759353 - 06/03/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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millzy said:
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zappaisgod said:
Whackjob covered in blood who doesn't respond to a taser lunging at a cop.  I'd shoot him.




which is why you aren't qualified to do police work. cops are vetted and trained to react in ways that ordinary citizens wouldn't even under - especially under - the most extreme circumstances. this kid died because a cop did not do his job. and if you can't see that then you don't understand the issue.






tell us about this vetting process?


is this the shoot/dont shoot training they go through



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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: millzy]
    #21759354 - 06/03/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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According to NBC, “the officer believed Morad “was now a threat and going to assault him,”
so the officer used “verbal commands, an electronic control device, an impact weapon, and physical force” on Morad,
but was unsuccessful in restraining him.




Case closed. The cop used every means necessary to try and subdue the suspect.
Some people can't handle their drugs, I guess. An unfortunate series of evens for everyone involved, I'm sure. :sad:


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21759367 - 06/03/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

millzy said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Whackjob covered in blood who doesn't respond to a taser lunging at a cop.  I'd shoot him.




which is why you aren't qualified to do police work. cops are vetted and trained to react in ways that ordinary citizens wouldn't even under - especially under - the most extreme circumstances. this kid died because a cop did not do his job. and if you can't see that then you don't understand the issue.






tell us about this vetting process?


is this the shoot/dont shoot training they go through






yeah, shoot/don't shoot is training. vetting has more to do with individual characteristics i.e. their psychological profile, intelligence etc.


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