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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21762845 - 06/04/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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4. Mass shootings at Americans schools happen all the time. A grenade launcher is probably over kill, but if I had a kid in a school, I would want the cops to be ready for any columbine type event. I also doubt any cop would use a grenade on a student unless there was a mass shooting. Name one time a cop has ever used a frag grenade on a suspect. If there was one I would like to read about it genuinely.

Also they gave the grenade launchers back, which makes me think, they were offered equipment and took it no questions asked. Cops love equipment, new cars, new vests, new guns, new bullets, new flashlights, new anything. I doubt they turn anything down offered to them by the government.




:yeahthatsfunny:  can you honestly say that you can think of an appropriate time to start launching grenades on a school campus?  You think that would have helped during the columbine shooting?  Hell, i figured you guys could make a case for the MRAP, but the grenade launchers?  Lets be serious here for a second.




Absolutely, when those two guys were in the cafeteria. And there was no other students around. The police had eyes on them through the use of the CCTV. Perfect time to launch a frag through the window and blast those two losers.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21762864 - 06/04/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

wasn't that right before they killed themselves anyway?


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21762944 - 06/04/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Flash bangs are dangerous sometimes. What should the police use? Just their words? Everything they have is dangerous, if they used water balloons and teddy bears to subdue suspects they would receive even less respect than they do now.

And eventually someone would get smothered by a teddy or take a balloon to the face and inhale at the same time and drown, and then people would still bitch that they are over armed.




you're completely ignoring my point. it's not that the police use the military grade equipment they're given, it's that they overuse it. the only situations where SWAT teams are needed are for extreme situations e.g. hostage takings, apprehending violent criminals, really serious stuff where there is no other choice than resorting to extreme force to protect the public. and even then you still want to couple that with intense negotiation whenever possible. kicking down jeff the weed guy from high school's door and pointing guns at him and his family, maybe even killing his pets (which is routine for SWAT teams when encountering dogs) is just not necessary in making the arrest. i've even read about SWAT teams being used to enforce truancy laws in small towns. truancy! think about that.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: mndfreeze]
    #21762949 - 06/04/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Just cause your taser doesn't stop them that does not mean he has the right to murder him. He was UNARMED. Oh no a chubby kid is coming for me I better shoot him three times, I mean it's not like he could aim at his shoulder or legs or something because you know, these cops have no training or know where to place a billet or anything.



They don't aim for the arms or legs because that's just about impossible to hit on purpose.




Actually, they dont aim for the arm or legs because you are only supposed to use your weapon with the full intent to completely kill, and only then.  Pulling the trigger is full acceptance by the cop that they intend to kill the target.  If they have any doubts or questions in their mind about it, they are supposed to use other methods.  Their gun is never to be used to just 'maim' or wound.



Yep - I've went on about this in other threads many times. But they only shoot to kill because shooting to injure is completely unrealistic.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21762962 - 06/04/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It's crazy he tasered him and he didn't react. like what? LAPD is so sketch. I wouldn't be surprised if he was honestly just shot once he advanced towards the cop.

Top 5 sketchest police forces

1. Chicago
2. LAPD
3. NewYork
4. Miami
5. idk lol



And this opinion is based on what exactly?  Could it be your anus?  NY is pretty good.  Those cops are very highly trained and scrutinized to the balls.  LA used to suck but isn't so bad now.  Do you what police departments do suck?  Cleveland and Baltimore and New Orleans.  I don't know if the Chicago police suck or if the citizens suck but I do know it is awash in blood.



Georgetown, Ohio Police Department sucks. That's a fact.

Cincinnati PD are really chill in my experience.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21763057 - 06/04/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No.  It's time to give them to our allies.  Like the beset upon Ukraine.




You mean those neo-nazi nationalists? Thats a fantastic idea :cookiemonster:


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21763676 - 06/04/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the stinger missiles you give to mujaheddin today to shoot down Hinds end up getting pointed at Apaches tomorrow. been there, done that


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21763686 - 06/04/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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the stinger missiles you give to mujaheddin today to shoot down Hinds end up getting pointed at Apaches tomorrow. been there, done that





I agree, why the hell are we arming any foreign country


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21763868 - 06/04/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I agree, why the hell are we arming any foreign country




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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21765170 - 06/05/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No.  It's time to give them to our allies.  Like the beset upon Ukraine.




You mean those neo-nazi nationalists? Thats a fantastic idea :cookiemonster:



More commie propoganda from the Putin butt boys.  Are there some neo-nazis in the Ukraine?  Of course.  Are there many more of them in Russia?  You bet your ass there are.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21765177 - 06/05/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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the stinger missiles you give to mujaheddin today to shoot down Hinds end up getting pointed at Apaches tomorrow. been there, done that



Didn't happen.  We gave the nutjobs single use missiles and they used them on the Russians to great effect.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21765180 - 06/05/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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the stinger missiles you give to mujaheddin today to shoot down Hinds end up getting pointed at Apaches tomorrow. been there, done that





I agree, why the hell are we arming any foreign country



Why shouldn't we arm our allies?


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21765276 - 06/05/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

arming client states and rebel groups is just how the game is played. why are we talking about this anyway?


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: millzy]
    #21765312 - 06/05/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I met a stripper a few weeks ago. She said she was Russian, so I asked what part of Russia?

She said Crimea.....

I told her that I was sorry to hear what is happening over there, like how you say sorry when someone says their mom died.

She laughed and said Russia liberated her homeland!! She showed me pictures of boxes she tried to mail to family in Crimea. And said the post returned the packages and said you can't mail anything there. So she had to mail it to a friend in Europe to have them forward it to Crimea.

She started talking mad shit about Obama and Putin, but said she was glad Russian stepped in to help Crimea go back to its home country, and that Kiev was a shithole no one wanted to be apart of.

I don't know i take a stripper's opinion about her homeland over the propaganda machine that is TV.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21765346 - 06/05/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Most Crimeans are very happy too not be a part of the fascist Freak-Show that Kiev has turned into.

But they will still talk shit on putin, Lol


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: millzy]
    #21765350 - 06/05/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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arming client states and rebel groups is just how the game is played. why are we talking about this anyway?




ISIS Captured 2500 humvees when they took over Mosul...

We've always armed both sides of every conflict.. it's how the game is played.. and the arms manufacturers make more money that way.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: D.M.T]
    #21765441 - 06/05/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes indeed we did lol I understand what your saying but it's just sad to hear/ read about, like you said before tho it's definitely another lesson in being responsible with these drugs, and have a sitter if you don't think you can handle it or are inexperienced as this kid was.

But as far as this story even goes some have questioned it's authenticity and I find myself maybe questioning it myself.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: chopstick]
    #21765577 - 06/05/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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arming client states and rebel groups is just how the game is played. why are we talking about this anyway?




ISIS Captured 2500 humvees when they took over Mosul...

We've always armed both sides of every conflict.. it's how the game is played.. and the arms manufacturers make more money that way.



That does not constitute us arming ISIS.  They captured shit we gave to somebody else.


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21765591 - 06/05/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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arming client states and rebel groups is just how the game is played. why are we talking about this anyway?




ISIS Captured 2500 humvees when they took over Mosul...

We've always armed both sides of every conflict.. it's how the game is played.. and the arms manufacturers make more money that way.



That does not constitute us arming ISIS.  They captured shit we gave to somebody else.




Exactly if I steal a fully equipped cop car, does that mean the state armed me? Or that I stole shit that was never Intended for me?


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Re: Long Beach police kill an unarmed boy tripping balls on mushrooms [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21765606 - 06/05/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it does show that there are unintended consequences to arming other nations.

its interesting that we're talking about iraq since iraq is the perfect example of arming all sides of a conflict.  You were around in the 80's zappa, you should know all about it.


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