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Bacon- the cult classic of foods 2
#21755491 - 06/02/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Popular for being popular?
Ill never understand why people so vehemently adore bacon. It seems to be the staple of manly foods, the golden standard of breakfast foods.
Ive never cared for it. Seems completely overrated.
Does anyone here actually adore bacon the way that most people claim to?
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: JvF]
#21755518 - 06/02/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good bacon is awesome, most bacon sucks. I don't really like cooking it or dealing with it at all. It's nice to have the good old bacon, eggs, and toast breakfast every now and then. You'll never see me buying breakfast sausage.
Peameal bacon is better than regular bacon.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: JvF]
#21755523 - 06/02/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think it's pretty versatile, kind of a meat-based condiment. I think some people praise it in an exaggerated way for the humor value.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: JvF]
#21755531 - 06/02/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's okay. Most people just see the bacon worship on the Internet and jump on the bandwagon because it seems funny at the time.
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I cant eat bacon more than like twice a month or something. I think its the grease or something I jus get really sick of it pretty fast. I also think breakfast sausage is absolutly vile I think Ive had like a handful ever in my life I even slightly enjoyed the flavor of.
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Yo like I went over my buddies the other day n this dewd was like stoned outta his mind wrapping oreos in bacon dippin em batter n fryn em. I mean thats totally outta control its almost reckless.
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Well, was it good? You did try it right? That's a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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yeh it was really good but the bacon didnt really crisp up or anything so it was that kinda soft chewy bacon. Normally im not a fan of oreo but i do like a fried oreo and the bacon was actually a nice touch if he could refine his method maybe.
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even bacon like bacon.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Hobozen]
#21755611 - 06/02/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I prefer prosciutto or Iberico ham over bacon.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Crystal G] 1
#21755616 - 06/02/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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thats like a totally different thing than bacon
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Crystal G]
#21755617 - 06/02/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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a slice of prosciutto over toast and egg, touche.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: thats like a totally different thing than bacon 
it's meat man... it's all welcome here.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Hobozen]
#21755625 - 06/02/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Herd mentality, bacons ok on a sunday, but its really not that great. sugary, fatty cut of meat thats relatively unhealthy to eat in large quantities. Ill go with some pork chops or nice cut of steak over bacon anyday.
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I'd jus like to say i prefer my bacon savory but not always smoked.
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thick!
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: thats like a totally different thing than bacon 
Not really. They're both salted and cured and typically uncooked.
Really, the biggest difference is that bacon typically comes from pork belly, and prosciutto is made with the leg and a lot more thinly sliced.
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that's why you must eat the bacon in combination with other foods that balance out its saltiness. like in a toast sandwhich with old cheddar and ripened tomatoes. how do your pork chops compare now??
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Hobozen]
#21755637 - 06/03/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Theyll still blow bacon out of the water with the right seasoning and cook times. They also serve well with a lot more then potatoes and eggs
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i'm not sure man. roast pork and gravy is fucking delishous, but put the two plates side by side and i'd probably choose the sandwich. i'd probably steal your gravy though.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Crystal G]
#21755647 - 06/03/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: thats like a totally different thing than bacon 
Not really. They're both salted and cured and typically uncooked.
Really, the biggest difference is that bacon typically comes from pork belly, and prosciutto is made with the leg and a lot more thinly sliced.
You say not really but yet you would i hope never confuse the two. Plus how they are salted n cured is totally different.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: JvF]
#21755653 - 06/03/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love bacon every bit as much as people rave about it. I'm a huge meat lover, I could basically survive off of meat and never get tired of it (meat in general, I still need variety in type and preparation technique). I cannot do that with any other type of food. I actually just use vegetables and shit as filler because living off of only meat would be pretty expensive.
Taking that even further though, I NEVER get tired of of bacon, not even just the basic skillet cooked variety. I have never turned down a piece of bacon in my life. I cannot tell you what it is that I love so much or what sets it apart from every other piece of meat, all I can tell you is that it is apart from every other type of meat for me.
Once while stoned out of my mind I cooked up like 1-2 pounds of it and ate the entire thing, and then still wanted more.
For me it doesn't even have to be the top dollar shit. I love cheap bacon just as much as the expensive shit.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Shroomslip]
#21755659 - 06/03/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Unfortunately you cant live off pure meat. Your bowels eventually shut down and rot out on you, something unpleasant to go through. Its a nice concept though.
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I'd die a happy man then 
Surely they could develop a pill or something to get around that.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: thats like a totally different thing than bacon 
Not really. They're both salted and cured and typically uncooked.
Really, the biggest difference is that bacon typically comes from pork belly, and prosciutto is made with the leg and a lot more thinly sliced.
You say not really but yet you would i hope never confuse the two. Plus how they are salted n cured is totally different.
How's this then, I prefer just regular pork belly over bacon. Bacon is too salty, and personally the over saltiness makes it taste not that good. Kind of like eating beef jerky or something.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: JvF]
#21755685 - 06/03/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes bacon is great. made bacon wrapped smoked jalepeno poppers tonight for a dinner party. also added extra bacon to smoked baked beans.
cant go wrong with it , though in all honestly i dont eat it allll the time.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Crystal G]
#21755694 - 06/03/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: How's this then, I prefer just regular pork belly over bacon. Bacon is too salty, and personally the over saltiness makes it taste not that good. Kind of like eating beef jerky or something.

You ever have like ciccioli or anything like that?
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: You ever have like ciccioli or anything like that?
No. In East Asia, we eat pork belly on top from a grill as BBQ, or braised over hours. We don't eat it aged like ciccioli. Although I would try that if I ever saw it on a menu somewhere.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Crystal G]
#21755723 - 06/03/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I been working on ton of asian bbq flavor braised pork shoulder recently idk been getting some pretty good results.
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I think bacon is overrated and usually bacon is just better as a side on its own rather then added to anything. For me, bacon is something you add to a dish because you need more fat not because you want extra bacon flavor.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I been working on ton of asian bbq flavor braised pork shoulder recently idk been getting some pretty good results.
That sounds awesome. I recently had grilled pork shoulder (not BBQ style), and it was great. I really like the texture, reminds me a lot of cheek.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: JvF]
#21756160 - 06/03/15 05:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think a lot of people overly express how much they like bacon. I really don't know anyone who's going out of their way to make it. It's kind of a pain in the ass. I do like it and enjoy it.
The whole bacon trend thing is pretty much just that. One time my friend randomly got some bacon popcorn because he thought it was funny. It was the nastiest shit ever. It smelt identical to bacon but you could just tell it was artificial and weird.
Now other cured porks are amazing. The bizarre foods where he is in Italy is almost like a dream come true. A lot more better meats then bacon.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Gorlax]
#21756321 - 06/03/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Once I tried a variation on rice krispie treats with bacon and some more sugary cereal substituted for the rice krispies (froot loops?) Someone who was a coworker at the time made them as a joke. Not something I would make but they were at least edible.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Crystal G] 1
#21756344 - 06/03/15 07:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How's this then, I prefer just regular pork belly over bacon. Bacon is too salty, and personally the over saltiness makes it taste not that good. Kind of like eating beef jerky or something.

Proof people are stupid. A 50 cent piece of lard seared and served with drops of colorful sauces. It goes from to :nomnom: and a 2000% mark up. I love to see pretentious people go crazy over shit like this and Pancetta.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: r00tuuu123]
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: r00tuuu123]
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Bacon is okay every once in awhile. I did go overboard for a period of time and was eating it a couple times a week :vomit: I got tired of it pretty quick and switched to turkey bacon and sausage links. Turkey bacon tastes good and also not a pain in the ass to cook since there's less grease.
I'd much rather eat a good steak or pork chop like Bhodi said
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21757397 - 06/03/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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A BLT or a club sandwich is pretty killer though.
I remember once I ordered a "Subway Club" at subway and it was some nonsense with roast beef and other random cold cuts. Pissed me off, why use "club" in the name of a sandwich that bears no resemblance at all to a club sandwich.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: psi]
#21757483 - 06/03/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i like good food, including bacon, but food hipsters annoy the piss out of me.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21760453 - 06/04/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How's this then, I prefer just regular pork belly over bacon. Bacon is too salty, and personally the over saltiness makes it taste not that good. Kind of like eating beef jerky or something.

Proof people are stupid. A 50 cent piece of lard seared and served with drops of colorful sauces. It goes from to :nomnom: and a 2000% mark up. I love to see pretentious people go crazy over shit like this and Pancetta.
Um, I love pork belly because it is a huge part of Asian cuisine that I grew up with, especially Korean BBQ.
Personally, I believe the best way to cook pork belly, is with just a little salt and pepper, and grilled over charcoal or wood fire.
Sometimes, the simplest foods are the best tasting. Take toro (fatty tuna belly) for example. One of the most expensive items on the menu at the sushi bar. All you need is a little bit of soy glaze brushed over it, and you can charge $22 for 2 small bite-sized slices of it.
Also, I don't know where you are getting pork belly from where it only costs 50 cents for the whole thing. I buy them from the Korean market (which is way, way cheaper than American grocery stores), and it's still $5 per lb from the Korean market. I'm sure you have a much better connect than me though, because you actually work in the professional food industry.
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: Crystal G]
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The 50 cents is refering to that one piece. and as far as the tuna belly goes IDK but it sounds like the part of the fish you trim off. There has been a resurgence in cooking of using ofal so now the stuff that used to go into cat food,dog food and hotdogs is bringing top dollar. Kind of funny that the stuff poor people ate cause they couldn't afford better is now something they can't afford. I think I'm gonna open a restaurant and call it "r00tuuus Head Cheese and Innards Emporium."
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Re: Bacon- the cult classic of foods [Re: r00tuuu123]
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r00tuuu123 said: The 50 cents is refering to that one piece. and as far as the tuna belly goes IDK but it sounds like the part of the fish you trim off. There has been a resurgence in cooking of using ofal so now the stuff that used to go into cat food,dog food and hotdogs is bringing top dollar. Kind of funny that the stuff poor people ate cause they couldn't afford better is now something they can't afford. I think I'm gonna open a restaurant and call it "r00tuuus Head Cheese and Innards Emporium."
I actually love offal and intestine. It's a staple in Korean BBQ. In fact, pretty much every single country EXCEPT the USA uses offal in their traditional cuisine. It's common to see in Mexican cuisine, Dominican cuisine, Italian cuisine, Spanish cuisine, Greek cuisine, Japanese cuisine, etc…
I actually prefer offal over steak. I prefer my offal marinated in K-BBQ sauce, and grilled until it is crispy. Many Americans are surprised when I tell them that offal prepared this way tastes very similar to bacon, but is a lot more chewy.
A lot of haute cuisine once used to be poor people food.
Hell, even sushi in Japan used to be what peasants ate. Nobles always ate their fish grilled. Peasants always dug the leftover scraps from the garbage, and would eat it raw with soy sauce. Now it's something rich people eat, and frankly I think raw fish is much better than cooked.
And escargots. What time period do you think that originated from in France, where people were so destitute they had to resort to eating snails? And fucking frog legs? You KNOW some starving bastard during the French Revolution saw a frog and thought, "Fuck it, better than eating grass."
Same with liver. Foie gras, chicken liver pate, often seen in upscale menus. But the liver is considered "throw-away parts" to some countries.
A lot of countries have a history of avoiding waste and using the entire animal, which is something that I can get behind. In Southeast Asia they even fry fish bones and turn it into a crispy snack. It is honestly one of my favorite snacks. High in calcium too, much healthier for you than potato chips.
Conversely, what about the fact that Americans eat crawfish? You would never EVER catch a Japanese person eating crawfish. There is a huge stigma against eating crawfish, because crawfish were the same crustaceans that lived in the sewers and ate human feces. So the only Japanese people that ate crawfish were people who were starving during the world war. Because of that, there is a huge stigma against eating crawfish, because it is seen as "poor people's food."
Conversely, sea urchin was considered garbage food California until sushi came around in the 90's. Fishermen used to sell sea urchins on the beach for 50 cents a piece back then. It wasn't until the sushi chefs started buying them all out that people realized what a valuable delicacy they really were! (I find raw sea urchin to be much better than Italian-style cooked sea urchin as well.)
You should learn more about food history since you're a chef, and you will begin to realize that there is really no such thing as "high-class cuisine," the definition varies from country to country, and what is currently high-class cuisine used to be low-class, or visa versa.
Remember, in the 1950's, the upper-middle class was eating microwave meals? While the poor ate salads and things of that nature? Now it's the opposite. The poor eat microwave meals, while the upper class eats lots of fresh veggies and fruits.
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and as far as the tuna belly goes IDK but it sounds like the part of the fish you trim off.
Oh god, please don't tell me that. I met a fisherman once who said he cut off the belly and the cheek every time he catches tuna and yellowtail, and I almost cried when he told me that.
A lot of Americans surprisingly throw away the belly and the cheek when they catch a fish. But in Japan, those are the most coveted parts of the fish. One yellowtail cheek goes for about $5 from the supermarket, and a tuna belly could easily go for $50/lb if you buy from the Japanese supermarket.
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