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Small fruits and disintegrating veils on previously decent isolate. What's wrong?
    #21754989 - 06/02/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've got a monotub fruiting with a previously tested isolate. My yields were never the greatest with this particular isolate but it's always been a fast colonizer with decent sized fruits and nice potency.

I just made this monotub up a while ago by transfering from my master slant, to agar (twice to make sure it was clean) and then to grain before spawning to coir/verm/gypsum.

My fruits are maturing at a smaller size than I'm used to and the veils aren't tearing in their usual manner, they're disintegrating.

Any ideas of what might be wrong?



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Re: Small fruits and disintegrating veils on previously decent isolate. What's wrong? [Re: dinguskahn]
    #21755001 - 06/02/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not enough RH or FAE is all I can think man. Try adjusting the polyfil on your tub thatll prolly help ya out a bit. I had that same problem when I first started growing. I moved to a GH nd never had them problems again, now I have them from the end of my finger tips to half way down my fucking arm they are huge!! Best of luck man -Kushroom


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Re: Small fruits and disintegrating veils on previously decent isolate. What's wrong? [Re: kushroom]
    #21755047 - 06/02/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

IME if it was a lack of FAE I'd have a lot of aerial myc and if there were too little humidity I'd have bluing and or cracking/splitting on my caps. I've also had my tub in indirect sunlight.

I haven't changed any of my growing parameters that I can think of. I've got my monotub set up the same as I always do.


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Re: Small fruits and disintegrating veils on previously decent isolate. What's wrong? [Re: dinguskahn]
    #21755725 - 06/03/15 12:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If it's a proven isolate and you have a general idea of what to expect then the cause has to be environmental, whether it be fruiting conditions or substrate. I know where I live my ambient rh and temp fluctuates depending on the time of year which could be a factor especially when dialing in a monotub.


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Re: Small fruits and disintegrating veils on previously decent isolate. What's wrong? [Re: insanemike]
    #21756124 - 06/03/15 05:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was wondering if it's possible that my isolate was damage during storage. It got pretty cold on several occasions, probably around 0C to -2C.

I haven't been able to find anything via the search engine but I seem to recall reading about isolate degradation before.


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Re: Small fruits and disintegrating veils on previously decent isolate. What's wrong? [Re: dinguskahn]
    #21756171 - 06/03/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've just gone through a tub with similar problems, though I used MS.
Tiny fruits. The veils would break long before the cap flattened and I would pick them, worrying that I'd end up with spores everywhere.

What I learned was that:
1.According to a TC my sub was probably too wet.
2.On my own I found that if I let these mushrooms keep growing, many would get MUCH larger before flattening out.


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